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Auge Ratings: FRA vs RSA (EOYT 2018)

Started by Augenöffner18 REPLIES777 VIEWS· 11 Nov 2018, 05:18
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 05:18
#1
11 Nov 2018, 05:18#1

Ratings

  1. Kitshoff (7.0)
  2. Marx (7.5)
  3. Malherbe (7.0)
  4. Du Toit (5.5)
  5. Mostert (6.0)
  6. Kolisi (3.5)
  7. Vermeulen (6.5)
  8. Whiteley (5.5)
  9. De Klerk (6.0)
  10. Pollard (6.0)
  11. Dyantyi (5.0)
  12. De Allende (4.0)
  13. Kriel (5.0)
  14. Nkosi (3.5)
  15. Le Roux (5.5)
  16. Mbonambi (6.5)
  17. Du Toit (6.0)
  18. Koch (6.0)
  19. Snyman (7.0)
  20. Louw (8.0)
  21. Papier (0.0)
  22. Jantjies (6.5 )
  23. Kolbe (6.5)

Comments 
I was disappointed in the sheer volume of errors from Steph. Had he not made as many positive contributions I'd have rated him lower. I probably ought to irregardless. Some of the same issues I've been identifying throughout the season.
Nkosi hasn't impressed me thus far. He is another with a big reputation, but all I have seen are walk in tries and security under the high ball. Poor defender and isn't busy enough. We are missing Mapimpi, who contributed significantly more whilst being a greater attacking threat. 
Willie was nowhere most of the game. Came into the game more in the latter part of the game. Numerous errors. 
The centres were poor. Rassie was wise to concentrate carries through the stronger and faster Kriel. Damian playing short balls to setup the crash ball twice early on. Damian switching with Pollard in a double switch set sequence. That aside, of no significance. Poor under the high ball and very poor on defence. Conceded a needless penalty at the breakdown. Damian is not the player we need at 12. He is not a 12 by nature. Kriel fared better and had his chances. More threatening and better defence. When will Am be back? We need him.
Faf was the general yesterday. Our game heavily reliant on his boot. Some errors, but that is Faf all over. He makes up for those with the intangibles. Without him we'd have been much less present in the game. 
Our front row was huge. Very accurate and powerful. For a time, we struggled to get our backs into the game and we relied heavily upon them to get us going. Marx was more successful at the lineout, made a couple of steals and was strong carrying and defending. I can't think of a fault for either of the three off the top of my head. 
Kolisi was hopeless all game. Embarrassed by the display Louw gave. He is a sham of a captain and drags the team down. If he is doing anything its running in space or breaking a tackle out wide. He is a big back pretending to be a forward. Louw was immense and saved the test. Some might say 8 is too high, but those were big moments. No Louw, no win. It's that simple. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2018, 06:54
#2
11 Nov 2018, 06:54#2
No Louw , no win....no question!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2018, 07:14
#3
11 Nov 2018, 07:14#3

As per normal your ratings is piss poor - and not worth reading.   Mostert was no better than 4,5 at best.   Du Toit was double the player Mostert was in the game - even playing out of position.  What bloody errors of Du Toit are you talking about that Mostert did not make double of - bird brainfart? 

Are you nuts - Louw went AWOL in the game - I would think MINUS 8 would be more appropriate - a loosie who passed the ball twice and had no carries and made two tackles is about as useless as you get.  



 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2018, 07:19
#4
11 Nov 2018, 07:19#4

Mozart

Please motivate what Louw did that cause the winning of the game?   Is it another skyscraper of yours and that village idiot AO?  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2018, 07:25
#5
11 Nov 2018, 07:25#5
Read the match thread and see what your fellow posters think. France was close to our line with time almost gone, when Louw got over the ball and won the penalty that allowed us to break out....as he had done a few minutes before. You obviously missed the whole thing.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
11 Nov 2018, 07:41
#6
11 Nov 2018, 07:41#6
Player Ratings: The late show.......Rugby365

OPINION: The Springboks were fortunate to get a 26-29 the win in Paris against France.

Warren Fortune rates the South African players!

15 Willie le Roux
He only had a few opportunities with ball in hand. He was pretty quiet during the 80 minutes.
4/10

14 Sibusiso Nkosi
Scored a try off a French mistake and that was pretty much it. His work rate was poor around the park. Then again, the Boks hardly took the ball wide.
3/10

13 Jesse Kriel
He had a couple of good runs with the ball, but he was still very predictable with ball in hand.
5/10

12 Damian de Allende
He went missing in this game. He only carried the ball three times and he missed a couple of tackles as well.
2/10

11 Aphiwe Dyantyi
Another player who hardly had any opportunities with ball in hand. He could have looked for more work around the park. He also needs to work on his defence out wide.
2/10

10 Handré Pollard
He kept the scoreboard ticking over with his accurate boot. But he was far from the general South Africa needs in that No.10 jersey in open play.
6/10

9 Francois de Klerk
He kicked the ball away too much and he was just too predictable behind the rucks. However, he did put in few good passes.
5/10

8 Warren Whiteley
He put in a couple of good tackles and that was about it. You hardly noticed him on the field.
3/10

7 Duane Vermeulen
He was much better in the second half. He was strong with ball in hand and he made his presence felt on defence.
6/10

6 Siya Kolisi (captain)
It was not a good performance by the captain. He looked lost running around the field and he missed a couple of tackles and gave a few turnovers away.
3/10

5 Franco Mostert
He gave away two penalties and missed a few tackles as well. He made no impact with ball in hand.
3/10

4 Pieter-Steph du Toit
He made more tackles than any other player in his team and he also missed more as well. He won a few turnovers.
5/10

3 Frans Malherbe
He was strong in the scrums and did more work around the park as well. He was a good defender and he was aggressive with his ball carries.
6/10

2 Malcolm Marx
He found his line-out jumpers this time and he was a menace at the breakdowns once again. It would have been nice to have seen him with more of the ball.
6/10

1 Steven Kitshoff
Strong in the scrums and like Marx he was good at the breakdowns where he won a few turnovers. He had a few good carries as well.
7/10

Replacements:

16 Mbongeni Mbonambi (On for Malcolm Marx, 73rd min)
Made a couple of line-out throws in pressure situations and he obviously scored the winner as well.
6/10

17 Thomas du Toit (On for Steven Kitshoff, 63rd min)
He looked strong with ball in hand. He put in a few big hits on defence as well.
6/10

18 Vincent Koch (On for Frans Malherbe, 60th min)
Brought some power up front and did his part in a strong defensive display in the final 20 minutes.
6/10

19 Rudolph Snyman (On for Warren Whiteley, 50th min)
Got his team over the gain line with a few big carries and he was important player in the set pieces in the final 30 minutes.
6.5/10

20 Francois Louw (On for Siya Kolisi, 67th min)
He made a big impact in the closing stages. He won a few crucial turnovers for his team when he was on the field.
7/10

21 Embrose Papier
Not used.

22 Elton Jantjies (On for Damian de Allende, 67th min)
He looked good on attack when he came onto the field.
6/10

23 Cheslin Kolbe (On for Sibusiso Nkosi, 57th min)
He had one excellent run to the tryline, but he managed to lose the control of the ball in a tackle before putting the ball down. It was a good cameo from the wing.
5/10

@rugby365com

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2018, 08:02
#7
11 Nov 2018, 08:02#7

Blobbok

I forgot  - Louw did make a turnover in possession - but is that enough for a 7/10 rating.  His tackle count was ridiculously Louw and he did near to zero otherwise.

AO also went ballistic about Mostert and Mozart did as well,   I would agree with thei r rating given by Rugby 365 iro him.   

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
11 Nov 2018, 08:14
#8
11 Nov 2018, 08:14#8

ouMaaik, so many of our fellas had kak games ......  I'm just relieved we won, especially after last week .

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2018, 08:18
#9
11 Nov 2018, 08:18#9

Do you know what I wrote about the Springboks at halftime?   Do you call this BS by the Springboks Rugby players ?

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Nov 2018, 09:39
#10
11 Nov 2018, 09:39#10

Any rugby fan with half an idea about the game will look at the sequence below and be able to appreciate how Louw, in that last three minutes, gave us a chance we didn't deserve. By the 80th minute France needed to run down less than 60 seconds on the clock 5m from our line - almost a foregone conclusion. This doesn't even need further explanation. The blind won't see.



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kingcornPro3,695 posts
11 Nov 2018, 10:10
#11
11 Nov 2018, 10:10#11
Hahaha, that is funny Pakie. Kolisi is riding his luck, but because he is black, Rassie can't drop him. We looked lost under his leadership. Time to hand the captaincy to Vermeulen and make whiteley the vice captain. Keep them both at 8 and that way we don't have 2 leaders on at the same time.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Nov 2018, 10:28
#12
11 Nov 2018, 10:28#12

Kolisi is not an openside flank.

He's done some good things ball in hand this season (scored, assisted), but he's also botched a number of opportunities by not passing. Outside of carrying well he does little of the work the number on his jersey suggests he should be doing.

Auge probably called it just right up there: He is a big back pretending to be a forward.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
11 Nov 2018, 10:34
#13
11 Nov 2018, 10:34#13

That said, where do we stand with Louw? I'm not convinced he can go a full 80 at test level anymore. He looked really good coming in at the death against the All Blacks and now again against France, while he had some iffy outings as a starter. Do you start him or do you end with him? We used to have a fair few very good opensiders in this country. Now we seem to have run out, with a 34 year old as seemingly the best option.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:18
#14
11 Nov 2018, 13:18#14

Harsh on Nkosi and lenient on Dyanti

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:36
#15
11 Nov 2018, 13:36#15

Dyantyi made errors too. Until the second half, I actually had a worse impression of him. He did more than Nkosi. He always does more around the field. He has assisted a few Nkosi tries now! I have it at three. Nkosi looks like the next Nokwe is many ways. I much prefer Mapimpi, and even Kolbe has bettered him. I don't think Nosi's reputation is warranted at test level.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:40
#16
11 Nov 2018, 13:40#16

What else did Louw achieve during the game ZILCH,    Give him 2,5  out of ten for each turnover and reduce it by 0,5 for doing bugger-all in the ret of the game.   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:46
#17
11 Nov 2018, 13:46#17

His entire game was excellent. Not only excellent, but everything he did made the Boks much better. Without him, we don't win the game. As pointed out by Pakie, he gave us a chance to win a game we had no right to win. If this were Steph or Damian, you'd be ramming it down our throats. 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:48
#18
11 Nov 2018, 13:48#18
Nkosi is hugely physical, I've seen him drive forwards back in the tackle and is much better under the high ball. A much more natural wing, whilst Dyanti has more flair Nkosi has fewer weaknesses. France wasn't a match for the backs in an attacking sense, more a test on how they defended and Nkosi was far better than Dyanti, who Teddy Thomas taught a few lessons to.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Nov 2018, 13:56
#19
11 Nov 2018, 13:56#19

I've seen Nkosi being brushed aside on defence and outright beaten. He has a lot of defensive issues. If I review his game, I can probably cite 9 missed tackles in the past two games. Added to that, several instances where he was outright beaten. He is a good finisher, but I want to see more from him. I can't think of a try that wasn't a walk-in. He isn't useless, but he has struggled. Mapimpi is more physical, more accurate and busier. He has also shown an aptitude for RC rugby. There can be no doubt that Kolbe outplayed Nkosi on Saturday. 

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