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Baby boks implode against Italy

Started by kingcorn16 REPLIES789 VIEWS· 29 Jun 2023, 15:54
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KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
29 Jun 2023, 15:54
#1
29 Jun 2023, 15:54#1

Looks like we are back in the dark days of Coetzee. Italy is not well known as top tier country. Yet, on home soil, the baby boks got bossed around in the scrum and in the tight forwards. The conditions wasn't great but with such a big pack they should have dominated. 


Likes like they have literally brought in the Bfana to emulate the soccer team. 


I hate this transformation BS, Rassie has a lot to answer for. 


This is the same clown that imploded the A-Team on the end of year tour. 


Go back to club rugby

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Jun 2023, 17:22
#2
29 Jun 2023, 17:22#2

Chill, did you see what Georgia did to Argie?...and France to NZ?...the power has shifted big time.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
29 Jun 2023, 17:46
#3
29 Jun 2023, 17:46#3
You right draad power has shifted….but KC also has a point with this transformation crap….the players are good it’s the Bafana guy that,s not supposed to be there….it’s a fuck up as mediocrity is the new standard…just pick the right man for the Job no matter What race, and everything will be grand….but instead people are being put into Job’s that they are not Qualified for….and the consequences are that everything will eventually implode.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Jun 2023, 20:28
#4
29 Jun 2023, 20:28#4

Ja, ja, I know, so tired of this BS...the whole country needing protection from the evil 8% ...8 fcn % ....WTAF?

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jun 2023, 22:06
#5
29 Jun 2023, 22:06#5
Shocking performance - must be the worst Baby Bok side ever There is no way these players are the best we have at our disposal The coach is clearly clueless - can’t select a squad and can’t direct them Which coach would leave Bruce Sherwood out of their squad - that sums the coach up
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jun 2023, 03:28
#6
30 Jun 2023, 03:28#6

Who is the Director of Rugby. Please don’t tell me again he isn’t culpable.if that’s true what’s the point of his role.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 06:15
#7
30 Jun 2023, 06:15#7

the players are good

Oh no. Been stating for a while that youth SA rugby players play to impress scouts first rather than improving as players to move up to the senior level.

.it’s a fuck up as mediocrity is the new standard…just pick the right man for the Job no matter What race, and everything will be grand….

Of course, whatever the race. The question is how comes there is still no quota coach to be the right man.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 06:17
#8
30 Jun 2023, 06:17#8

Ja, ja, I know, so tired of this BS...the whole country needing protection from the evil 8% ...8 fcn % ....WTAF?

Yeah, like stating that slaves must not protect from their owner because what they total 99 per cent and the owner 1 per cent.

Liberal lack of argument.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 06:37
#9
30 Jun 2023, 06:37#9

About the quota coach and his claimed messed up.

Problem is that the guy had little room to mess up. The game did not leave him much room to influence.

Key decision: decision to rotate the line up. In retrospect, a collosal miscalculation.

To his account, though, IT got trashed by AR in the previous game. The guy evolved in an environment that keeps seeing SH rugby as dominant so inclination to take it as an evidence the IT side was weak. Guy may be unable to assess the level of a squad with no reference and even if he is, it probably is not easy to sell the idea that the IT side is dangerous to people who think SH rugby is dominant.

In retrospect, big mistake but one that is easy to explain through a misplaced sense of superiority.

For the rest, the game was good old mud and glory rugby. Very little to take from a coach.

The forward pack started as nearly all white and got manhandled by the IT pack (which may have the same composition)

It hurt feelings as the tale SA forwards best forwards still is alive.

SA rugby players were outdone in departments a coach has little expression. At best, one could tell that the guy did not provide motivation to the players which begets the question SA white players can or not feel inspired playing under a quota coach.

The IT side was enthusiastic, determined, convinced and passionate. They did not play their best rugby, they had troubles organizing themselves and keeping structures.

Nevertheless, the mindset was here, contrary to SA rugby players who lack all of this. In this type  of game, the awakening is brutal.

A coach's responsibility runs that far.

Blaming a coach for elements that must come from players, especially during a WC, always come with the question about players relating to their coach.

Usually, this happens when players do not want to play for a coach, they do not support him.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
30 Jun 2023, 08:31
#10
30 Jun 2023, 08:31#10

Yeah... the evil 8%

Whatever you do.... stop that 8% from advancing and progressing at all costs....

Fucked up

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
30 Jun 2023, 08:36
#11
30 Jun 2023, 08:36#11

Yup, did you see what happened at the under 16 comp, WP had a few players injured and only had a 2 white players available. They then got demoted to play a match that didn't reward them for their performance. It only happened because someone was actually counting. 

I was raving about the black talent we have recently, but then if they are watering down the comp, of course these guys are going to look amazing because they are playing against weakened teams. 

So it is all smoke screens. 

What happened at this game is a disgrace. Not sure how this guy can hold onto his job. 

One good think though, the kicked Affirmative Action out of universities in America which is long over due. I wish they would kick it out of SA. 

8% whites, wow, well it use to be 20%. ANC is doing a great job of getting rid of people that actually made the country better. 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 10:26
#12
30 Jun 2023, 10:26#12

8% whites, wow, well it use to be 20%. ANC is doing a great job of getting rid of people that actually made the country better.

SA as a country was not made better. It was put on a crash course and people who have done it are leaving the ship.

Can not even train people in rugby.

Burning out and shipping away wealth, yes, faster than anyone who has lived in the place, other than that.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 10:33
#13
30 Jun 2023, 10:33#13

I was raving about the black talent we have recently, but then if they are watering down the comp, of course these guys are going to look amazing because they are playing against weakened teams.

Even when hit with an asteroid, liberals cling to their fallacies. Impressive.

SA rugby have never trained any quota talent.

WC is not watered down and it shows.

Already stated it, from a much smaller pool of players, the North does much better (not that it is hard considering the failure of SA rugby)

IT had a quota captain. It made no fuss.

In SA, it is unbearable.

SA rugby are FUBAR. Yet due to a denialist delusional attitude, it does not click among SA rugby supporters.

Stuff that was done may not be undone.

The main cause to think before acting.

SA rugby is over.


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Jun 2023, 11:46
#14
30 Jun 2023, 11:46#14

The oaks are quite right to strongly object to race based selections.

Rooitwit having learned a big lesson regarding his son not getting a job because of race based selections may even join in the condemnation. 

Race based selectoons are racist and have very bad consequences. Look how they got rid of competent white professionals from Escom etc

The economic effects are disastrous. Putting inexperienced and or incompetent people in charge because of pigmentation is again disastrous. 

But please note oaks you won't hear the Glo balist media complaining about discrimination against minorities in South Africa. These deceiving scumbags have no interest in this. They just use the racism issue when it suits their agenda. 



KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
30 Jun 2023, 12:26
#15
30 Jun 2023, 12:26#15

I agree beeno, they made Apartheid out that it was a crime against humanity and that any person that benefitted from it is racist and should pay for it. 

The west has gone mad with Woke culture and the corporate world is also to blame for encouraging it. We had the mess with Black Lives Matter when they most kill their own people. 

I don't agree with segregation, but looking at what SA had problems with was that it was about security. 

The unfortunate thing is with out white people, Malaysians, Indians etc the country would not be where it is today. It was the missionaries that educated Mandela. Had it not been for creating schools, hospitals, roads, markets, selling food and providing work opportunities they would still be sticking each other with sticks. 

Just look at the criminal enterprises in the ANC, the bombshell about Eskom 

They are sticking their fingers in where ever there is money and they will striped it down to the bone. 

They've done it with cricket and now doing it to the rugby team. 

Bafana was a lost cause and we have all of these ghost stadiums now. 

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 15:09
#16
30 Jun 2023, 15:09#16

Race based selectoons are racist and have very bad consequences.

Correct. Too bad the globalists who ran WR were so slow to assess the dangers of associating rugby to the Apartheid regime.

If they had pulled the plug quickly, this would have avoided the very, very, very bad consequences that ruins the rugby game as of today. It has tainted it for a long time, with people having no clue how to handle the consequences. Or even more, people claiming that any action taken to deal with the consequences are racist.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
30 Jun 2023, 15:27
#17
30 Jun 2023, 15:27#17

they would still be sticking each other with sticks.

One wonders how deep mines are dug with sticks.

The unfortunate thing is with out white people, Malaysians, Indians etc the country would not be where it is today. It was the missionaries that educated Mandela.

Liberals love circularity.

Educated to do what. Sell the illusion that was rooted could be uprooted.

Liberals are used to cherrypicking consequences dismissing consequences they do not like so much the world is plagued with all those consequences liberals have no clue how to deal with.

Liberals, passing the bucket since 1776.

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