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Bad news for Mozart

Started by clevermike13 REPLIES288 VIEWS· 06 Jul 2013, 18:45
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jul 2013, 18:45
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06 Jul 2013, 18:45#1
How dare they make that weakling Labuschagbe MOM in the game against the Blues? Mozart says he is a weakling and he keeps on hammering how poor a player Labuschagne is - so he must wet himself at the mere thought of such a terrible decision like the one mentioned. What an idiot!!!!!!
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
06 Jul 2013, 19:25
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06 Jul 2013, 19:25#2

Moz are you ever right?

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SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
06 Jul 2013, 20:08
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06 Jul 2013, 20:08#3

So he is a idiiot for having a different opponion than you Mike?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2013, 06:48
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07 Jul 2013, 06:48#4

Let's see. I said Labuschagne is a fine provincial player, without the power to impact at test level. So far I was right about the first part. The second part remains to be seen, always assuming of course that Meyer disagrees with me and plays Labuachagne. So far that seems unlikely.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2013, 07:16
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07 Jul 2013, 07:16#5
Mozart Twisting like a snake won't help you. You condemned Labuschagne outright and I can remember many comments by you disparaging him as a player on Super 15 level. In fact the untruthfulness in this case is really clear as daylight Since when is Super 15 on provincial level in any event? It definitely is not provincial - the CC and ITM are. Most of the Super Rugby teams will beat international teams rated 6 and below - so you are really foolish in making such a statement The opposing two flank forwards of the Blues are both in the All Blacks squad and had playing time during the recent tests between the All Blacks and the French. So to show how misguided and embarrassingly prejudiced you are - I am posting the ESPN stats on Labuschagne, Luke Braid and Steven Laurua hereunder:- Labuschagne 0/0 0 0/1/9 44 1 1 1 2 9/1 2/1 Braid 0/0 0 0/4/9 38 1 0 1 2 7/1 0 Luatua 0/0 0 0/1/3 0 0 0 0 0 3/1 0/0 And then your other pet hate is Marcell Coetzee - also MOM in the Bulls - Sharks game. Another embarrassment for you. As Shezza said above "Moz are you ever right?" My quess is rarely and you proclaim your vast knowledge after games making weird interpretations of actual performances. Hence your dislike of stats when it does not fit your interpretations and weird usage of stats when it does.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2013, 07:39
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07 Jul 2013, 07:39#6

Seems  to me Braids numbers in a losing pack were pretty comparable, but he didn't have two turnovers. So maybe he has the same test potential as Braid.....hahaha.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2013, 08:41
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07 Jul 2013, 08:41#7
Mozart So you ignore as expected the fact that Labuschagne won three line-outs - one on Blues throw-in. What a crock interpretation - just ignore facts you do not like to hear about. Hahaha. Just accept it - that as per normal Mozart's interpretation of performances are rubbish and always wrong.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2013, 08:58
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07 Jul 2013, 08:58#8
So Oom 34, Daniel won a bunch against the throw, disrupted the whole Bools maul by disrupting their lineout....and yet I don't hear you promoting him. Why? Because lineout wins are not why we choose our flanks. Statistically there was nothing to choose between Labuschagne in a winning pack, and Braid in a losing pack.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2013, 09:28
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07 Jul 2013, 09:28#9
Another piece of wisdom from Mozart - loose forwards play no role in line out play. That is totally new one - since it gives another twist to the twisted mind at work here. Everyone in world rugby will tell you that unless loosies can help in line out play - the team is at a disadvantage. That means they only depend on locks to recover balls and that can be easily countered and line out losses happen as a result. Then he has in the same sentence virtually the audacity to point out what Daniel did in the Bulls game. If we do not choose our loosies with due regard to line-out performance - we would be word wide regarded as idiots and the laughing stock of world rugby. Carry on - this jewels of wisdom - they are added to my long list of taunts I would use in future.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2013, 16:28
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07 Jul 2013, 16:28#10
Well if lineout play is heavily weighted.....no doubt you support Pierre Spies whose lineout record so far for the 2013 tests is 1/1 (remember that means one on your own throw, one on opposition throw), 3/0 and 2/0. He is probably the best lineout loosie in the land. So I assume you want Suspies for the Boks when he returns? Or maybe Kankowski who is another splendid jumper? - No Oom 34, what we want from our loosies is to compete in the power game....to turn ball over on the deck, to power through the inevitable tackles that come in test rugby.....jumping in lineouts, making process tackles and running in open space is not indicative of test potential.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Jul 2013, 18:59
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07 Jul 2013, 18:59#11
Mozart You are talking crap as per normal. Spiirs' number of line-out wins this year is a smalkl fraction of the number won by Labuschagne. Insofar as Alberts is concerned - NO line -out wins was recorded - neither in tests - nor in Super 15. Alberts has been just slightly better than Spies in ball carrying - but viciously poor compared to Strauss. His performance in the SAMOAN test was he best he achieved - but you should remember that the SAMOAN team is probably weaker than any of the top 8 Super 15 series teams. Both Alberts and Spies are unacceptable for totally different reasons. Alberts because his speed is slower than most props and Spires because he is not a loosie by heart and there are serious deficiencies in his game. Now you try and subvert a serious argument on line out play by naming Spies as an example. Just for your info there are no argument about a loosies other duties - what you said is line-out play does not need consideration at all and that is a major Clanger. Keep it up - I collect clangers like you constantly makes.
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KalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
07 Jul 2013, 19:37
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07 Jul 2013, 19:37#12

Lappies is a cool flank, but the que in front of him is a little long. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Jul 2013, 21:45
#13
07 Jul 2013, 21:45#13

 Waaaaaaahahaha, I agree Oom 34, Steyn is not a "loosie by heart". Have yourself tested old Toppie, that's a pretty scary mental breakdown.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jul 2013, 00:04
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08 Jul 2013, 00:04#14
Mozart Thanks for pointing out my error - I have corrected it, It is obvious that I was referring to Spies - since I was commenting on your idiotic response in which you mentioned Spies to my posting pointing out that you constantly make clanger after clanger. Now for your enlightenment I have to point out that Loosies nowadays have four major functions, namely - * defence; * Breakdown ball recovery - not their sole function - but a major part of their work; * Ball carrying - but not only in traffic, but also in more open plays in linking up with back;line; * Line out support - an essential part of the line out play/ Now lets look at Alberts. His defence around the fringes is mostly effective - although in the Amoa test he missed two tackles that resulted in tries by the ball carriers. He defence further out is non-existent since he is too slow to get quickly enough to do cover defence,. Because of speed deficiency - his contribution to breakdown ball recovery is not really in existence. Although he rarely cover more than 1 meter before he is tackled - his average is more or less 1,2 meters advantage for his team - it is evident that he makes some average contributions in this category - further out he is of no help at all. His line out performance is extremely poor as his average per game is 0,6 balls recovered per game. Alberts is passable for ball carrying in traffic and to a lesser extent defence - he fails insofar as all other aspects of loosie play is concerned,,
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