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Bakkies and Fury come good

Started by Mozart12 REPLIES213 VIEWS· 24 Nov 2013, 02:12
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Nov 2013, 02:12
#1
24 Nov 2013, 02:12#1

The two  old stagers were in fine form. In fact the Boks lineout went south after Bakkies left. The Boks were unlucky on the two disallowed tries. I personally don't believe the Frog did anything but shift the all laterally on the Louw try....and I doubt the ball went forward on the Fury non try, but that was debatable. Then Louws silly card denied a strong finish.


Willie was our best back. But everybody did well. Morne made a few mistakes, but his kicking was clutch. Pienaar had a few mistakes but made a few good tackles.


Coenie  had a fine debut under difficult conditions...and the loosies were huge, as was Flip and of course Bakkies. TheBeast had a fine game.


At the end there was no timing between Strauss and his jumpers, but  it remained a dominating performance. And how did that Frog not get a yellow for the  elbow and Louw get one for a much less dangerous act?


Meyer is fully vindicated.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2013, 02:45
#2
24 Nov 2013, 02:45#2

Mozart


With respect - I need some enlightenment - what did they do to deserve the above?  


Just for the record here are the stats for the two players mentioned as per ESPN.



Botha

0/0

0

0/0/2

0

0

0

0

1

4/1

4/0

0

0/0




Fourie

0/0

0

0/0/4

1

0

0

0

0

9/1

0/0

1

0/0



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Nov 2013, 02:50
#3
24 Nov 2013, 02:50#3
 I sense the pillow fighting is about to resume
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2013, 02:57
#4
24 Nov 2013, 02:57#4

Just-Win


 Definitely not - I an just asking an honest question.     

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Nov 2013, 03:02
#5
24 Nov 2013, 03:02#5
 oh, ok my mistake!  
NJ
njRookie31 posts
24 Nov 2013, 03:07
#6
24 Nov 2013, 03:07#6
You know notsoclevermike there's more to rugby than just cold hard stats, the impact a player makes can't always be quantified, you can't measure the intimidation that Bakkies excels at. These people aren't robots ffs! I reckon you've watched Moneyball one too many times..
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Nov 2013, 03:12
#7
24 Nov 2013, 03:12#7
 Is it true that Willem Alberts was Man of the Match........................?
PI
Pine in IrelandClub Pro101 posts
24 Nov 2013, 04:26
#8
24 Nov 2013, 04:26#8
 Mike I'm loving it!! You are the officially the most useless poster on the board and have been for a long time. Ur only tolerated because Ur old and people feel  for sorry for you. Boks won!!! Sorry to disappoint you. Even with that idiot Barnes who cheated us of 2 tries, who you were delighted with. We won Idiot!!!! Fourie scored a lovely try which was disallowed. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Nov 2013, 10:14
#9
24 Nov 2013, 10:14#9
 Another very nasty post by P ain in Ireland. Take no notice Mike some twits can't help themselves.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Nov 2013, 10:31
#10
24 Nov 2013, 10:31#10

Pine In Ireland - the site idiot 


At least I look at what actually happened in a game and do not live in cloud cuckoo land.   First of all it was not Barnes who disallowed the "tries" - it was the TV ref.  Barnes had to accept his recommendation.   If you believe Fourie scored "a lovely try" you must also believe in the tooth fairy.   If Morne did not mishandle the ball - it could have been a try - but Fourie's contribution was just to dot the ball down - nothing else, since the work leading up to the "try" was done by De Villiers - who passed the ball to Fourie with no defenders in front of him - he only had to dot the ball down.


You are only tolerated because people are sorry for you being a complete idiot    But then anyone who believes Morne Steyn is a good flyhalf is an idiot - so lets leave it at that.


I am delighted by the Springbok win - but not necessarily delighted by the performances of the players who are always questionable.   Incidentally Alberts was  even worse in defence than he normally is.   This time around he made 9 tackles - missing 4.  If that is acceptable from a loosie - the tooth fairy is at it again.   

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Nov 2013, 11:43
#11
24 Nov 2013, 11:43#11
Not sure why some posters like to dish it out to Clevermike but to say he knows nothing about rugby is absurd.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
24 Nov 2013, 12:48
#12
24 Nov 2013, 12:48#12
 More Steyn was again absolute useless and so was pienaar. Pienaar control at the ruck was absolutely diabolical. 
Morne just don't have anything else than his kicking which was also rubbish. Two penalty kicks not going out. It was only JP commitment that got us ahead. Morne was so bad that he decided to drop ball forward. 
I'm not convinced about Jacque Fourie. The backline defence has been much stronger but he has not showed anything on attack. Bakkies was really good, I must admit that. 
More is the one player that has to go
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
24 Nov 2013, 14:00
#13
24 Nov 2013, 14:00#13
Bakkies was ok, Fourie did nothing of note at all. There is no way in hell the ball off Morne went anything but forward. Fourie adds nothing with ball in hand other than the predictable straight route.

Willie was once again in fine form. JP and Habana good out wide. As predicted the 9 to 13 channel offers very little with ball in hand other than Jean at 12 who had a good game.

Fourie spent the whole game rushing off side in the defensive line, was solid enough in defence, but offers nothing with ball in hand. 

Morne was once again poor, missing a number of penalty touch kicks at this level is just not excusable and that fumble pass about sums him up.

Pienaar needs to be discarded, he was very poor. His lack of a hard edge cost us that try, he should have been aggressive in picking up that ball. He offers nothing of note these days.

Our pack was very good as it has been most of the year. Beast and Bismark were good and Coenie will be very pleased with his first start showing he has what it takes to be test 3. If he can stand tall and even dominate the French at times, his road moving forward will be downhill. Lets just hope the Cheetahs dont stand in the way of his development at 3 by playing him at 1 in the S15. 

Bakkies had a solid enough game, nothing of note and certainly showed no reason why he should be invested in ahead of the likes of de Jager and Willemse.

Flip once again had an outstanding game, how this man has come of age in an unfamiliar position. Not that I ever had any doubts. Steph du Toit will be better but its good to have Flip involved.

Louw had his best game in ages, he was back to his best. Alberts and Vermeulen were good.

This Bok side is almost there, a few tweaks and we will have a side worthy of challenging the AB's dominance.

Pienaar has to go, du Preez and Hougaard are the obvious two to take us forward.

Morne has to go, Goosen and Lambie are the obvious choices here.

Fourie has to go, we need attacking clout at 13........JJ is the only man for the job.

I'd like to see the above changes, along with investment in the likes of Taute, de Allende, v/Zyl, Reinach, Kitshoff, Nkanyane, de Jager, Willemse, Elstadt, CJ Stander and Arno Botha brought into the existing squad.
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