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Beale to keep AIGs guessing @ 5/8

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 09:29
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12 Aug 2014, 09:29#1

Well.. didn't see this coming - but on reflection I think it shows why Link is the master coach he is...


The thing the kiwis don't deal well with is unpredictability - and KB has the x factor.


The wings show me the aussie will keep the ball in the centres and ensure defence holds on he left edge where way too many tries been scored in recent times.


Shame hookers injured bu t Charles will do OK.

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 09:33
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12 Aug 2014, 09:33#2

FYI


Full squad: James Slipper, Nathan Charles, Sekope Kepu, Rob Simmons, Sam Carter, Scott Fardy, Michael Hooper (c), Wycliff Palu, Nic White, Kurtley Beale, Rob Horne, Matt Toomua, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Pat McCabe, Israel Folau.


Reserves: James Hanson, Ben Alexander, Pek Cowan, Will Skelton, Ben McCalman, Scott Higginbotham, Nick Phipps, Bernard Foley, Tevita Kuridrani (one to be omitted).

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 09:45
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12 Aug 2014, 09:45#3
 Redsman: Beale at 10 is this a desperation throw the dice move? lol
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 10:50
#4
12 Aug 2014, 10:50#4

I agree Cloudy, Beale runs hot and cold so we will see what happens when he sees the Blackness descend on him, lol

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 11:37
#5
12 Aug 2014, 11:37#5

hmmmm not sure but the rest of backline is very solid defensive wise and beale / folau offer good attacking dynamic...


The kicker (as predicted) will probably be the difference...


I reckon Foley will stay on the bench and if beale's confidence not up there - they'll go with plan B (Foley) -


I think the ABs would prefer foley as he plays more a traditional pivot role - KB is a bit like QC - on their night anything is possible...


From Links perspective to beat the ABs (... the best... you don't know how hard that is for me to say) you've got to roll the dice...


GOOOO WALLABIESSSS>>>>

 

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 11:38
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12 Aug 2014, 11:38#6
I think White will be kicking...  
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 11:51
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12 Aug 2014, 11:51#7
 
Nah ... Beale's a class act ... he's matured into a find rugby player.

Folau plays nicely off of him and I can see a serious threat coming the kiwis way.

It's a little harsh on Foley who's had a cracker of season at 10. 

Toomua is a solid defender. Excellent crash ball runner and with Ashley Cooper at 13, Id say this is probably their best center combination for many a year.

Interesting.

What the hell is McCabe doing on the wing? You telling me Porky couldn't find a natural wing? Puzzling!!

From the comments above I see the kiwis have already written the Wallabies off.

Hmmmm???

Goooooooooo Wallabiieeessssssss!!!!


BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Aug 2014, 12:00
#8
12 Aug 2014, 12:00#8

 ...So what Super XV combinations have been retained if the backline looks like this...


White - Brumbies 1/2 back >> passes to Kurtley Beale - Warratah


     >>passes to a Brumbie  -Toomua >>>>passes to a Warratah Ashley Cooper

 

              >>>>>passes to McCabe Brumbies


Could'nt be more disjointed, not much synergy there cobbers - no combinations retained so couldn't be better for the ABs but what more would you expect from a drunken Aussie coach ..  and what folly ,sacking the kicker Foley - too funny


...what one could ask would McKenzie a prop know about backline play anyway???


...looks like he's counting on the Aussie league star from Tonga to save the day...


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 12:05
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12 Aug 2014, 12:05#9
 
Hmmmmmm .... I wonder how many Tongans, Samoans and Fijians you guys have running on as kiwis this season ... ???

Just asking.

Maybe I should rather ask how many native New Zealanders are running on in the Black jersey this season?




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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 14:00
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12 Aug 2014, 14:00#10

 hahaha Brycy - best not we go down the path of tongan / samoan / Fijian players... considering the AIGs invented this rort...


Link is a master tactician a lot like the Aussie skipper that made the kiwis choke in the Americas cup - the UNLOSEABLE CUP remember that one...??


My prediction a lot like the; Rugby 7s, Netball, Rugby League, Cricket... need I go on... the kiwis on the slide...


My Tip - MOTM award to go to Kurtley... hometown aboriginal boy playing for his country in the pivot role = poetry...


Wouldn't be surprised if Link trys Foley in Eden Park too... 


Luv keeping the bird brains (kbbs thx Beeno) guessing...    

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 14:03
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12 Aug 2014, 14:03#11

RE McCabe on the wing - stupid ARU policy not to include overseas players to thank...


On that note McCabe wont miss a tackle and he does an honest job with ball in hand... I think the ball will be played up the middle as much as possible with Folau the aussie born of tongan descent running through the middle of the old tiring Mccheat.... lol... finally pinged in the S15 - the beginning of the avalanche....!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
12 Aug 2014, 14:14
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12 Aug 2014, 14:14#12
 Overjoyed to see Beale at flyhalf! He can't kick so when he can't find the right areas the ABs will feast off any errors and launch their famous counter attacks.Desperation tactics from the Missing Link which are bound to backfire big time.
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 14:26
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12 Aug 2014, 14:26#13

I don't think its desperation as you have Toomua to step in and they will likely rotate at 1st 5 - Beale and Folau will light it up...


Tides turning baby and only one way from the top kiwis.... lol!!!


GOOOO WALLLABIESSSSSS!!!!!!!!

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 14:30
#14
12 Aug 2014, 14:30#14
 
Hmmmm ... Moolaa seems a little tense.

Did you also pick that up, Red?

The strain of it all's getting to the lad.


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redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Aug 2014, 15:44
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12 Aug 2014, 15:44#15

 CC mate... as I keep reminding every kiwi I know... theres only one way from the top and thats DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GO you AUSSIES!!!!!!


Bad news I just found out Peyper is ref... he thinks that deliberately giving penalties away in own 22 isn't foulplay.... a favourite kiwi tactic...


That means ref will weigh into the outcome... shame... means aussies have to play even better....


WHY is it AIGs only get one of two refs v Aussies.... pretty damn clear if you ask me....

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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:03
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12 Aug 2014, 16:03#16
 making excuses already 4 days before the match?
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:06
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12 Aug 2014, 16:06#17
 
He does have a point though ... you kiwis are known globally to receive great favour from match officials.

There's no denying that.


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:10
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12 Aug 2014, 16:10#18

If kiwi teams recieve such great favours from the refs we would have won the s15.

3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:13
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12 Aug 2014, 16:13#19
 Yeah exactly Redsman how about earning the right, before you get all big mouthed. No ref is biast to any team, if the players stop commiting fouls the ref wouldent be forced to being "biast". You would think Aussie have a good recent record againgst NZ, given your over the top confidence. Waratahs winning one game thanks to the ref, and by one point does not guareentee anything. Two different teams, just saying its a huge say, and leap to go from Super Rugby to Test level, againgst by far the worlds best rugby team. If NZ fans are arrogant and writing Aussie off, it is because we have earnt that right, you have not. Everything else at this stage is just speculation, If Beale and Folau e.t.c. Do not get the same time and space, which they most likely won't, their combinations in the wallabies well not make a difference. Once again Aussie media jumping on the bandwagon, when nothing has even happened yet. Of course Aussie can beat NZ, it is all about the top two inches, but recent record says it won't happen, Cheika Tahs coach even eluded, that Tahs winning well bring new belief, but does not believe it well change results. Looking at the aussie tight five, and loosies they are pretty weak their, if they don't get good up front ball it won't matter in the end anyway.
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:15
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12 Aug 2014, 16:15#20
 What a bunch of bs Clever Cut, Abs are not known globally for getting support from match officials, that is just petty fans who cant accept their teams responsibility for the loss. Match Officials make mistakes all the time, but the amount of bent refs in SA is just as much as aussie or nz, it is not one sided that is just selective thinking.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:17
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12 Aug 2014, 16:17#21
Redsman, you need to up your game if your going to compete with Beeno for making excuses before the kick-off. Beeno is way ahead of you
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:17
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12 Aug 2014, 16:17#22
 
The ref gave it his best shot but alas, even with his help, you weren't up to it.

Come now JW ... surely your not expecting him to score your trys for you too ... are you?

I'm sure they expect at least a little effort on your part. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:25
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12 Aug 2014, 16:25#23

 We lost the final & congratulated the wining team. You guys should realise that it is not necessary to bleat about a loss or a bad call. All part of the game.

 

You don't see us listing excuses. We could be listing things like the Ozzie administrators cut a good deal to ensure the Blediloe alway starts in Ozz (current contract); the fact that we have lost one of our best props; the fact that Redsman is annoying; or that Boks always get an easy schedule (starting against the Argies) and so on & so forth. No we accept these things & don't mention them, lol

CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:45
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12 Aug 2014, 16:45#24
Redsman I wish I had your confidence. Surprise selection for mine and I see it as risky. Of course it may come off but it will be interesting to see how long he stays out there. The X factor can turn into the f factor pretty quickly. I can see our pack under big pressure which will make it hard for Beale and I don't see him as the man to handle it. There is a lot of talk going around about Beale going to league if he didn't get in the first 15. Would hope it's just talk.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Aug 2014, 16:58
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12 Aug 2014, 16:58#25
 
Hey Lara ... have you joined the testrugby & foxsport fantasy competitions yet?

Why not?

Come come come ... we're all waiting for you to join in.

No friggin excuses.

Kapeesh??

becs said that she would join if you did ... not sure where I saw her post stating that, but it's there ...  somewhere ... some place or other ...




JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Aug 2014, 17:04
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12 Aug 2014, 17:04#26

Yes, Cloudy you should join the RC foxsports fantasy rugby comp. It takes far less time than the s15 comp & we need some more kiwis. We did very will in the s15.

 

By the way, I have lost Sasuke San's email account. Maybe you can write to him to see if he is ok & more importantly tell him to get his butt on this site.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
13 Aug 2014, 00:52
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13 Aug 2014, 00:52#27

 Clean Cut, too right I'm tense. Oz is a very close 2nd behind the Boks when it comes to teams that I hate losing to!

I'm worried about AAC at centre for Oz. Forget about Folau, it's AAC who's the class act in that backline. There was talk of him playing on the wing which I thought was a big mistake but the Missing Link isn't that stupid unfortunately! Conrad Smith will have his hands full in trying to keep AAC under control and whilst he is a reliable defender, I think he's lost a yard or 2 in pace.

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
13 Aug 2014, 08:56
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13 Aug 2014, 08:56#28

Hopefully Peyper NOT a factor prefer to let rugby dominate...


Claydog - I had the same thoughts re KB re League - and I guess only the top brass know the answer but must admit wouldn't surprise me as I know bulldogs were pretty keen to get his signature...


Still I don't think he'll let anyone down and as the mass consensus is shouting - its the forwards that will ultimately decide the game...


I think it'll be down to kicks frankly though, and whether its KB or White kicking - they better have their kicking boots on - cant afford to leave any 3ptrs out there....


I hope Cruden is kicking for AIGs as he does suffer from kiwi choking nerves at lot like their America's cup sailors.....


I hope Higgen is in the 23 as he deserves a crack with 50-60 to go...


Must admit kiwi back row kaino / mccaw / read v fardy / hooper / palu - going to be key matchup...



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Aug 2014, 09:17
#29
13 Aug 2014, 09:17#29
 Cloudy: good to hear Naru is ok & will be back "swinging his bat" soon, lol
Still time to sign-up to Fantasy rugby so no worries
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
13 Aug 2014, 09:43
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13 Aug 2014, 09:43#30
 
Hey Moolaa - Glad to see you haven't awarded the trophy to the All Blacks yet!!

Respecting your opponent is a good start.

AAC should have been selected at 13 right from the start.

Personally I reckon this years winner lies between yourself and the Wallabies.

Meyer and his dad's army have lost the plot.

I've just noticed that your name doesn't reflect on either of the fantasy challenges currently running.

How come?

Join us and partake of the fun man.

Love to kick your ass in something ... if not on the rugby field against the All Blacks then at least allow me this small pleasure ... what you say?


MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
13 Aug 2014, 11:13
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13 Aug 2014, 11:13#31
 Thanks for the invite CC but I tried doing a Fantasy picking comp a few years back and frankly found I didn't have the patience or time to do it justice. Having to change my team every week because of injuries etc was far too complicated for this bloke so I'll stick to comps where I only have to pick a winner and margin of each game.
Good luck with it though! A regular update of who's winning between you blokes would be interesting if anyone has the wherewithal.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Aug 2014, 12:45
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13 Aug 2014, 12:45#32
Peyper must keep a close watch on illegal kiwi tactics in the red zone for one. Watch mcaaaw and ping the twit.I can only hope I am not going to be embarrassed yet again by a saffa ref favouring the wee abs. Th global favouring of the kiwis noted by wee cc must STOP.
Wobblies if you play to potential the game is yours. Hope Folau is steamed up and intends playing. He needs to roll up his sleeves and get stuck in.
Someone please put in atackle against the bent read. That mong like smirk after a game is most irritating. We plaaaayed some nice foootie tanight mate.  Man keep the oak away from the mike please. Wee mcaaaw is not much better. Most irritating bunch these kiws can be.
Go Wobblies!! 


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Aug 2014, 12:47
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13 Aug 2014, 12:47#33
 By playing good foootie they mean how many times they fooled the ref!! Bwahahhahahahahaha
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
13 Aug 2014, 13:11
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13 Aug 2014, 13:11#34

Redsman , have been hearing a lot of criticism of McKenzie by some former Wallaby stars for not picking Foley...they're all saying McKenzie was bullied into picking Beale by the ARU....looks like the decision to use Beale is really polarising many and I hope the abo doesn't end up getting shot down like you Aussies used to do in the old days....can't be doing his confidence much good when all his countrymen are bickering over him like little  old ladies...


BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
13 Aug 2014, 13:19
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13 Aug 2014, 13:19#35
 Bean Brain my nigger, kinda cute the way yr supporting yr convict brothers....and to think of all the support JW and I provided this year to the rain puddle team...that stab in the back is a little bit disappointing to say the least ....us Chiefs fans might have to support another SA team next year by the looks ay JW...
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Aug 2014, 13:28
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13 Aug 2014, 13:28#36
 Hatter brycy my good friend. I thought both nz and Oz were penal colonies? 
Hey I supported the Blues to stand with my friend cloudy. And I also did support some other ki wi side some time. Hahhahahaha
Most improtantly I tried to warn the wee chiefies to get a pack of forwards or bite the dust. What more could I have done I ask with tears in my eyes! 

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
13 Aug 2014, 13:54
#37
13 Aug 2014, 13:54#37
 ...Bean Brain no convicts shipped to NZ as evidenced by our superior sporting genes....we have had a few loads of boat people from South Africa though....hoping it won't lead to any decline in our sporting prowess but have heard there is so many boatloads of South Africans leaving yr country that they've changed yr national anthem to ' Row , row, row, your boat' ....  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Aug 2014, 13:59
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13 Aug 2014, 13:59#38

Brycy: we have the weee Boks in their green with envy jersey and then we have the Wobblies in their yalla jersey so we can expect their fans to act accordingly.

 

Yes we supported the hapless stormers in spite of the facts that few of their fans did. I know some would claim we only supported them because their wins would help kiwi teams, lol We could deny this but then we would be accused of being "squabblers". Folks should learn to take things at face value

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