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Beeno - a serious question

Started by clevermike2 REPLIES203 VIEWS· 20 Nov 2013, 10:10
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2013, 10:10
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20 Nov 2013, 10:10#1

Beeno


After the Sunday game against Scotland you said that you have not watched the game - but would endeavour to watch the game on Tuesday (yesterday).   Have you watched the game at all?   If so- can we have your enlightened (?) opinion on the match and the player performances.   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2013, 10:39
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20 Nov 2013, 10:39#2
 Yes I watched the game Mike and so here we go.Steenkamp adequate but Kitshof will take over next year from him in the squad.Beast scrumming well but still not doing it as well as one would hope outside the scrum. The cries of Beast harken unto a former time. Still a good player thoughStrauss and  Bissiey top notchCoenie did well and that was encouraging. Malherbe a very classy young prop.Bakkies was good and got through a lot of work. He really is here to mentor the youngsters and I question he can make it to 2015. I have always said Flip is a solid lock and he is proving that. Future thought is Etzebeth and Du Toit. The three loosies are well suited for NH conditions and teams. Vermuelen to me was outstanding and should have been man of the match. We need only find a fast loosie to use at times - Deon or labbers. Marcell as always needs to lift his skill set. Does what he does well.Fourie Du Preez was class. He could make it to 2015. Pienaar - well what a disappointment he is. Perhaps one of the most brillaint runners we have seen at scrummie but he shuns taking on the opposition. Drop him now and bring in Reinach.Lambie was good in my view and is becoming a classy pivot. Cool head on young shoulders and bags of talent.Jean remains class. Jaque still has resonable speed as the maitland chase DID SHOW. he also has a predators brain. Jury still out but it was not a bad outing. I would play JJ against france as I have said.JP was better and his defence was good. Habana remains a fine player and Willie has really settled down and is must have playerSo Steenkamp out next year (he didnt paly badly but Kitshoff works so much harder). Bakkies in squad as a mentor. Du Preez a definite. And Jaque needing to do a bit more but worth keeping an eye on as he could still have it as the speed is still there and so is the rugby brain. Remember Mike it's a big step up from Japanese Club rugby and viewed in that light he has done well.So all in all Meyer needs to cull Steenkamp as he has a better youngster. Drop Schreuder, Kolisi and Ntubeni. Bring in guys like labbers/labuschagne, Arno Botha and possibly Lood/ Willemse.As you said the Super 15 next year will tell us. What is definte is that a very, very good Bok squad is emmerging that will take the number one spot next year or the year after very latest. Our chances of winning the world Cup are excellent .


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2013, 11:45
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20 Nov 2013, 11:45#3

Beeno


Thanks - however, there are still some points of clarity I looked at specifically.  My main concern is with Bakkies Botha.  I do think he tried - but his productivity and results were not so good.   Do agree with you - he may be in the squad to mentor some younger players - but with his performance against the weakfish Scottish team - is he still good enough to really be a lock for the Springboks?  Personally I do not think so.   If Mentorship is not affecting the squad by  keeping deserving players out completely - it is OK - but otherwise we may have problems in the long run. 

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