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Beeno advises the wee frogs

Started by Beeno113 REPLIES374 VIEWS· 15 Jun 2013, 13:31
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jun 2013, 13:31
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15 Jun 2013, 13:31#1

 Forgs it amazes me that after all this time you still dont know a vital fundamental of rugby. Small guys come second no matter how much they bleat about it.

Your pack weighing in at 858 kgs is very good for such a pathetically small pack but it came of second best and led directly to your problems.

Surely you have some bigger men than this?

Finally if you parasites want to import players why dont you import big mobile dominant forwards from South Africa as this is what you desparately need. Or much better develop some yourselves - there is a novel idea for you. The Pelouse type .

Watching the abs its all the same old thing - shut down their forwards which really shouldnt require that much effort and then their backline shuts down. Frogs go and study the Dunedin test and the Twicks test

Its all very simple. 

But congrats to the wee abs - but please oaks lets be honest - the 858 kg Frogs pack were like school boys playing against under 20s. Bwahahahhaahhahahaha

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allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
15 Jun 2013, 14:06
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15 Jun 2013, 14:06#2

Cant wait to watch it! Reading the herald it sounds like the AB's were devastating on defence. 30 zip and no Mcaw or Carter. I still had my reservations about Hansen and wanted and i guess still want to see him lose a few and see what he's like under the pump, but maybe the guy is something special. Is there a site where I can watch delayed coverage?

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Btw, Beano stop sounding like a scared 'wee' girl already already.

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SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
15 Jun 2013, 15:15
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15 Jun 2013, 15:15#3

Beeno according to you South Africa and England is dominating rugby 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jun 2013, 17:30
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15 Jun 2013, 17:30#4

According to me spoonie a 858 kg pack is too light if you want to be competitive. Rediculous to think otherwise.

 

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
15 Jun 2013, 17:41
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15 Jun 2013, 17:41#5

I suggest Beeno you should apply for the forwards coach and maybe Saffex for the backline opening?

Maybe with your expertise we'll have a new WC winner...lol.

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polyboyClub Pro601 posts
15 Jun 2013, 17:50
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15 Jun 2013, 17:50#6
Beeno you seem to be obsessed with size.......compensating maybe? If size mattered the Boks would be the dominant team year in year out.....maybe the brand of rugby played is more relevant.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jun 2013, 18:47
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15 Jun 2013, 18:47#7

Poly wake up please. What brand of rugby can you play on the back foot.

Allistair blew it for a number of reasons but one was playing a midget backline.

But as for packs name me the super 15 packs weighing in at 858kg. Over too you. 

Frogs are plain dumb and need to wake up to reality.

Meyer had better wake up and pick a decent pack against Samoa. 

 

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polyboyClub Pro601 posts
15 Jun 2013, 18:58
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15 Jun 2013, 18:58#8
One, I don't care about size of Super 15 packs only you do Beeno, but if you pay my travel expenses I will gladly fly to Oz, SA, NZ with my bathroom scales and weigh each one just for you. Don't say I don't do anything for you.
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allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
15 Jun 2013, 19:03
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15 Jun 2013, 19:03#9

It's never goin to be 'that' simple beanzippo. lower hips and square backs can literally take a bigger mans strength right out from under them at scrum time. Only thing I would say was manadtory is obviously tall locks, other than that your really only looking at horse's for courses really, some games you would want a very tight set piece and bash things in close quarters, other games you want mobility to simply out score a tight set piece side who may not be capable of posting a high score.

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What kind of game off the back foot? You had already seen it last year in Dunedin Beano.

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Yet again it takes a kiwi expat to teach the 'big boy' saffa thug beanzippo the finer points of the game. Burrrrhahahahaha

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jun 2013, 19:09
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15 Jun 2013, 19:09#10

 abnob and poly I have seen no Super 15 side fielding a 858 kg pack.

Now why do you think that is.

Beeno leading the kiwi bird brains gently to the truth.  A tip keep it simple when dealing with kiwis! Hahahahahahahaha

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allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
15 Jun 2013, 19:19
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15 Jun 2013, 19:19#11

Beano, I dont care! Obviously (well not to you loz) the French knew the pack they were putting out and obviously had a plan (probably based on how nz played last week). Geez I bet you hadn't even looked at the bench lol.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jun 2013, 19:34
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15 Jun 2013, 19:34#12

abnob I regreyt to inform you I am watching the Boks play so I am suspending my mentoring service to kiwis.

What the frogs did or did not think is irrelevant. They were plain dumb field such a light weight pack.

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allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
16 Jun 2013, 00:25
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16 Jun 2013, 00:25#13

Well after hearing about the 'big bad' bokkee game I sure am looking forward to my rugby lesson uncle benzipp.....Burrrrhahahah...burrrhahaha.

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SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
16 Jun 2013, 16:12
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16 Jun 2013, 16:12#14

Beeno only place where size matters is at school, u/20 level and in porn.

Rugby you need to apply a balancing act between mobility and pund for pound. If you play with a lighter pack then you need to stretch play and make sure you tire out the oppositions biggger forwards first before handing the ball over to them. Like NZ do against us. You will note them always taking it up from set plays wwhere we prefer to kick from it.

If you play with a  heavier pack then you are going to have to kick tactically to give the bigger oakes a rest. Throwing the ball left and right you are going to struggle to keep possesion as a more mobile pack will beat you the breakdown more often than not. That is why Cheetahs can play the game they always play cause all the years they have had a mobile pack to support them quick all over the park.

 

The Bulls have tried to add some mobility to their pack by getting more mobile props but by doing that they have given up grunt in the scrums reason why the once great Bulls scrum is now reduced to a points machine for the opposition.

So you can have a massive 1000kg pack. You can still be pushed around by small packs if their tactics fit their mobility. Kiwi's have nailed that part right on the money and they have wingers who are not afraid to help clear ruck

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