BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Jul 2017, 10:24#1
Here is a side that would shake up the wee abs:
Kitshoff, Marx, Malherbe (Pity Redlinghuys is out)Eben (Capt) and Steph
Kolisi (I have my doubts but can't drop the man as he did well against French)/ Marcel Coetzee, Du Preez and Du Preez.
Particularly if Marcel plays that is a very powerful pack and one that the abs cannot match.BACKSKolbe (A must) Jantjies (I prefer Robert Du Preez in the longer term)Have to stay with Serfontein and Kriel with Rohan recovering from injuryCombrink. Skoks and Willie Le Roux
Reserves: Beast, Akkers, CoenieMostert, Kriel, Faf, Coetzee, Allende
If one plays Marcel at 6 then Whiteley can come in at 8. I would be happy with that as well although I think DuPreez at 8 must be given a chance soon.These guys are probably the real contenders.
But please no Rhule, Oupa, Bongi they are quota players. We cant afford quotas!I am dismayed that the Kolbe at 9 hasn't happened. What an incredible blunder!
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jul 2017, 12:01#2
Beeno
Bongi's line out throw ins yesterday was a serious problem. For the rest he is absolut BS, He is a definite quota player who weakens the team.
So lets look at the flyhalf situation. Robert du Preez is going back to the Sharks next year. Don't think he will get another chance at the Stormers, but watched out for Willemse - the guy has something special and he may make the Sprigbok team as early as next year. Is likely being groomed as a successor if and when Jantjies failed in future.
I think that we have problems this year on the wing and would like to se bigger and physically stronger wings. I think that Kolbe may be a good option at scrummie - but his passing game may be a problem. However, I think that Cronje is likely the best present option as a scrummie - Faf is off to the NH and the Lions does not seem to be overly saddened by the loss.
Incidentally - I would play De Allende n the wing together with Combrinck and play the center combination of Van Rensburg, Sefontein, Vorster and Kriel as an outsider.
THTheTraditionalist
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THTheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
09 Jul 2017, 13:13#3
The most important man was left out of the list.
The ref.
SA will not win without the appropriately biased to them reffing.
Anytime a list is made, it is mandatory to name the man in chief: the ref.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Jul 2017, 13:15#4
Yes Beeno, please pick your ref.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Jul 2017, 13:36#5
JW as long as its not a bent down under ref we will probably be treated fairly. I say probably because nz bribery extends far afield and who knows who will succumb to th e bribes etc!
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Jul 2017, 14:16#6
I just think think my Bok pack with Marcel at 6 would be too far physical for the wee abs. Wee bent Read would no doubt spend his day safely on the wing!The kbbs can be thankful my side will not see the light of day.Unfortunately our coach is the Alistair but that said he has Dr Venter coaching the team so hence the improvement we have seen.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jul 2017, 14:20#7
You really shouldn't call a team with Malherbe at prop and Stephanie at lock....physical.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jul 2017, 14:23#8
Back to Mozart's BS again. His physical players were the lazy Alberts and lets add Fat Fransie who could not run circa 60 meters and was out of breath and then we have Kiwiet Matfield. So what else is new.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Jul 2017, 14:25#9
Dr Mozzz you really think wee matifiled was physical bwahhahahahahahahaha Steph is amonster compared to that weed.
Malherbe has not progressed as much as one would have hoped but who else is there. Malherbe is pretty good around the park. Malherbe should hold his own at scrum time but wont dominate.
Du Toit is a fine lock and plays hard for 80 minutes. He gets stuck in.
Name you side Moz! No use sitting on the fence and complaining about my p icks where are yours!
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
09 Jul 2017, 16:39#10
"If and when Jantjies fails in future."
Says the guy who claims Mozart has hate for certain players.
Jantjies is our best 10 by a country mile Mike. What the he'll else must he do to prove that to you? He has outplayed Kiwi 10s in big games, is accurate off the tea, creates scoring opportunities out of nothing etc etc.
Please do enlighten when as to when last it was that an opposing SA 10 outplayed Jantjies? It just never happens. You literally have to go back years to find a single example.
This nonsense about him not having BMT is ridiculous. It just seems to be the stock negative response to the plethora of positives that he brings. Utter bullshirt. A guy fails once or twice in big games and suddenly nothing else he does matters. That type of reasoning annoys the hel l out of me.
The young lad at the Stormers does indeed look good. So do Du Preez and Bosche. Unfortunately for them, Jantjies has earned his starting spot several times over, so they'll need to do the same or better if they want a shot.
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jul 2017, 17:52#11
Plum
There was some failing signs in the series - for instance a guy who fail to find with a penalty line kick is problematic.
I am not saying Jantjies is going to fail - if he does that may be an option.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Jul 2017, 18:44#12
Others that could be considered are Cloete at 6 and maybe Lleyds at 15 - see how he goes against the Bulle. He is very dangerous from 15.
AJArthur John
Pro1,748 posts
AJArthur JohnPro1,748 posts
09 Jul 2017, 18:53#13
Beeno1 that team will never ever be allowed to take the field in Springbok jerseys for the simple reason that the ANC-SARU colour selection numbers are not met.
By the way, I think Lawrence would be the best ref.
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Jul 2017, 21:19#14
AJ we have to beat the wee abs with a second team it seems. Difficult but not impossible to do.
10 Jul 2017, 09:14#15
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaa!!
Best stick to tennis, Beandip!!
Rugby isn't a strength of yours.
10 Jul 2017, 12:13#16
You may as well play your 2nd team Hasbeeno as the 1st team hasn't been crash hot.....
10 Jul 2017, 13:29#17
Alas Jonathan Kaplan is retired Beanhead........he would have made a perfect midfield combination with Suzie
THTheTraditionalist
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THTheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
10 Jul 2017, 13:45#18
He has outplayed Kiwi 10s in big games, is accurate off the tea, creates scoring opportunities out of nothing etc etc.
France is the only team facing lately SA that helped to paint this guy in good colours.
Every other team, each time he was fielded, exhbited this player's shortcomings.
At the time, this was explained because of the coach.
Now he might be the best option in SA at the moment.