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Crusaders#1Club Pro179 posts
01 Feb 2014, 09:43
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01 Feb 2014, 09:43#1

Benji Marshall made a pleasing Super Rugby debut for the Blues, but couldn't prevent his side from losing 38-35 to the Hurricanes at Memorial Park in Masterton today.

A sell out crowd of 6000 were treated to an entertaining match with a total of 11 tries with the home side stealing the result with a late try to lock James Broadhurst.

However, it was the Blues' code-switching first five-eighth who most had come to watch and he passed his first test, if not with flying colours, then certainly with enough poise to suggest there is better to come.

In his first fully competitive rugby union match since he was 17, Marshall kicked off after being told he'd be doing the restarts just before running onto the field.

He stood a tad deep early on as he kept a close eye on charging Hurricanes openside Ardie Savea, had an early dart, passed players into gaps and seemed to grow in confidence as the match went on.

There was an awkward ruck clean-out and a welcome to rugby crunch when Savea read his trademark sidestep like a book.

But on the whole Marshall was solid, he talked well and seemed to read the direction of play and looked like he was enjoying himself.

A long day looked in store for the visitors after the Hurricanes capitalised on a string of turnovers to score three first-quarter tries to leap out to a 19-0 lead.

Marshall wasn't the best on show. That honour probably went to centre George Moala, who broke the line at will while two-try wing Tevita Li also showed his ability to beat tacklers and finish.

For the Hurricanes Marshall's opposite Marty Banks shone in his first match at this level. The Tasman pivot set up the first try of the match for halfback Chris Smylie with an early dart down the blind then sprinted 80 metres for a try of his own after swooping on a loose pass.

More impressive was the way he directed play during the fourth quarter, after skipping the third, to lead the Hurricanes back from a 35-24 deficit with late tries to midfielder Hadleigh Parkes and James Broadhurst.

Others who could be pleased with their efforts included Blues forwards, flanker Kane Barrett and lock Liaki Moli, while second half replacement Matt McGahan marked himself as a player of real promise with some sparkling touches.

For the Hurricanes Savea was busy late, loose forward Brad Shields into everything and wing Newton Tudreu was full of energy.

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The Blues struggled to hold possession early and the Hurricanes fed off their turnovers.

Smylie got on the board after five minutes when Banks broke down the blindside before wing Andre Taylor fed the ball back inside for the opening try.

Banks then raced away for a14-0 lead in as many minutes before Cardiff Vaega brushed Marshall aside and Taylor sprinted clear.

The Blues came to life in the second quarter, Li brushing passed some weak tackling to open the visitor's account.

Loloagi Visinia followed a few minutes later when Li capitlised on a Vaega misread in defence for the initial break and when No 8 Peter Saili put hard working lock Moli into a hole Moala had the Blues' third try and their first lead of the match at 21-19 going into halftime.

Moala broke again for replacement halfback Sonetane Taqulua to score, then Li got his second when he raced onto a long pass to dot down in the corner for a 35-19 lead.

Hurricanes hooker Motu Matu'u was adding some physicality for the Hurricanes, who finished the quarter with a try to openside Callum Gibbins.

Parkes scored after some strong carries from Savea and Matu'u before Broadhurst scrambled over for the winner to the delight of the crowd.

- © Fairfax NZ News

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CR
Crusaders#1Club Pro179 posts
01 Feb 2014, 09:53
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01 Feb 2014, 09:53#2
 It's too early to call Benji Marshall's switch of codes a runaway success, but it will clearly not be an abject failure.

Though the jury remains out on whether Marshall will transfer his league brilliance to Super Rugby this season, that scenario is now at least plausible after his first half of rugby union in more than a decade.

More than anything the 28-year-old former Wests Tigers conductor exuded confidence from the time he ran on to Memorial Park to the moment he signed the last of hundreds of autographs after the final whistle.

He didn't blink when told he was taking the restarts moments before kick-off. He didn't flinch when Hurricanes openside Ardie Savea flattened him early or drop lip when Cardiff Vaega blew past his inside shoulder.

Marshall took it all in, adjusted, improved, and actually looked the part by the time he took a seat at halftime. In a nutshell, the Blues pivot was having fun.

"It was a bit of a blur to be honest," he said after the match. "The first 20 minutes I sort of struggled to get a feel for it, but after we had that quarter time break I sort of realised what it was going to take to direct the team around.

"I did everything I wanted to achieve. I didn't set the game on fire, but in terms of getting control and feel for playing 10 I got a lot out of it."

He stood a tad deep at times, looked a little awkward in contact, but had a crack early, made a nice half break running behind Jackson Willison and passed with growing confidence once the Blues got some possession.

"When you don't have the ball it's a pretty tough sport," he said. "I just did as much as I could in that second quarter to make sure we held on to the ball and possession and once we did that it felt great.

"Look, from a personal point of view I'm happy with what I got out of it. It wasn't about winning the game, it wasn't about being the best player on the field. It was just about getting through what we've practiced and getting a feel for the game."

For the record, the Hurricanes won the match 38-35, outscoring the Blues six tries to five in an entertaining preseason hit out.

But there was little doubt who the 6000-strong crowd had come to see with the local ground announcing giving him top billing as the side's ran on.

Marshall lapped it all up.

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"I had Ardie Savea coming from the inside a lot of times and got a good feel for what is going to be coming at me. I enjoyed every part of it and I'm looking forward to the next game," he said before laughing at his own attempt at cleaning out a ruck.

"I hit a couple, but I don't think I was hitting anybody. It's just different. Until you get a feel for the game you don't understand. I still don't really know the rules around the ruck, so I m guessing there to be honest. It's a learning curve and hopefully I can get better each game.

"There was a lot of sliding defence. The systems are just different to league and its something I'm slowly getting used to. I've got a lot to learn.

"I suppose this is the first step in a massive line of steps to get in the right place. That's what's its about. It's my first game in over 10 years."

And then Marshall started actually sounding like a rugby player.

"The first 20 was a bit rusty. We had about six turnovers and they scored three times off those so I learned a big lesson after the first 20 which was to keep us a bit more direct and control the ball and make sure we had enough people in rucks to keep the ball."

All of which was music to the ears of coach John Kirwan who knocked on the head any notion Marshall would switch positions and hinted he'd get another extended run against the Waratahs in Sydney next weekend.

"I thought he was great. The whole team played well but he blended in incredibly well and ran the team. For his first hit out he can be proud. He's worked hard. I spoke to him quickly at halftime and he said 'woah that was a bit different'.

"That's his position. He showed enough today to have another crack... I was hoping this would happen and its happening. He's worked incredibly hard, but it was a good start for him. There were little bits to work on but for his first game in 16 years or what ever it was a good start."

With Baden Kerr getting a knock Marshall may have to share time with Chris Noakes next week, but the signs are positive.

- © Fairfax NZ News

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Feb 2014, 09:56
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01 Feb 2014, 09:56#3

 Crus


Does not sound very good to me - did anyone defend at all?  11 tries means I try every 7 minutes - what a farce.   If either of the teams think they can win without defence  - they are doomed in Super 15 - both destined for bottom part of the log again.

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
01 Feb 2014, 12:02
#4
01 Feb 2014, 12:02#4

 ...not so clever mike your Sharks look like real contenders after one game too...LMAO..preseason games being so definitive an all that.

 

....seems like a never ending story of yellow carding costing SA dearly - will they ever learn???...i don't think so mate.

 

...i wonder how many games SA sides will lose this year as a result of ill discipline... 100% so far for dem Sharkies so v good work...

 

 

.... and for NZ as predicted positive signs and encouraging from both Benji and Marty Banks providing flair in attack...attack being what NZ sides naturally excell at if you have'nt noticed...

 

...so least NZ sides know where the tryline is mate..

 

 

...high scoring games of running rugby are always much more exciting though don't ya think ?

 

... compared to that stagnant low scoring brand of football that comes out of South Africa...

...the Cheetahs maybe an exception i'll give you that much...

 

...the rest of yr teams might need to invest in a Navman to find the tryline perhaps...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Feb 2014, 12:43
#5
01 Feb 2014, 12:43#5

Brycy


The big brag is on - but I think that it would be lucky if the New Zealand sides make up two of the top 8 log positions.  Knowing where the tryline is one thing - knowing how to defend is another.   And to get the ball to the backline - which is the top issue with New Zealand Rugby is no problem in the weak forward culture in new Zealand - but be comes a major problem against sides with good forwards.


I do not like what I saw of the Crusaders team this year.   McCaw is past tense and their forwards - although the best in New Zealand - looks very iffy to me.


However, we should know in another 22 days how things paned out.   Hope the NZ sides do better than the New Zealand sevens did against SA since December 2012 - all those losses must be very embarrassing. 

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
01 Feb 2014, 13:55
#6
01 Feb 2014, 13:55#6

 ...not so clever mike, luck is for losers which is why you've been so lucky lately...

 

...to say you don't like what you've seen from the Crusaders this year indicates you don't even know what day it is as their first game is next weekend against the Highlanders...

 

..forwards , well you showed us last year a bunch of unfit, overweight fumbling and bumbling forward packs that pose little threat...other than to their teammates when they constantly get yellow carded...

 

...need i remind you that back to back Super XV Champs the Mighty Chiefs had the least possession out of all the franchises but the best attack so you might want to rethink yr take on winning rugby as it appears woefully overrated in this day and age...

 

..it's the teams that can counter attack the most efficiently despite minimum posession that you need to watch ....like the Mighty Chiefs

 

...helps having the best standoff in World rugby in your team as the play maker i must admit....and to think Aaron Cruden did all that for the Chiefs and the ABs last year without SBW running off him and while nursing groin and knee injuries...

 

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Feb 2014, 13:58
#7
01 Feb 2014, 13:58#7

Bryxy


You are a funny guy - I love to read your ravings about issues.   So l,ets wait for Super 15 - then the fun will really start.

CR
Crusaders#1Club Pro179 posts
02 Feb 2014, 01:19
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02 Feb 2014, 01:19#8
 One eyed mike...your funny....I mentioned Benji started well...and you start having a crack at all Nz teams...I tell you what buddy...Nz teams have dominated this competition since day one...because of there ability to score more tries...pretty simple really....so for the first preseason hit out both the blues and canes fans should be wrapped...Defence doesn't win tournaments alone...just ask stormers fans....best defence in the comp gets you jack shit!!!
CR
Crusaders#1Club Pro179 posts
02 Feb 2014, 01:37
#9
02 Feb 2014, 01:37#9
 FYI mikeSuper 12

1996 Blues
1997 Blues
1998 Crusaders
1999 Crusaders
2000 Crusaders
2001 Brumbies
2002 Crusaders
2003 Blues
2004 Brumbies
2005 Crusaders

Super 14

2006 Crusaders
2007 Bulls
2008 Crusaders
2009 Bulls
2010 Bulls

Super Rugby

2011 Reds
2012 Chiefs 
2013 Chiefs
When your country boast a record like ours....then maybe you'll understand what it takes to win the worlds best rugby comp...
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Feb 2014, 01:56
#10
02 Feb 2014, 01:56#10
Game, set & match to Cruz  Good attempt at trolling though Cle verMike. When will SA rugby ever learn - never I hope, lol
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Feb 2014, 08:40
#11
02 Feb 2014, 08:40#11

 Listen up Kiwis, Benny is yet to be tested i.e against real opposition in a real game on foreign soil over 80 mintues.

 

 

Got that?

 

 

Good!!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Feb 2014, 09:32
#12
02 Feb 2014, 09:32#12

Crus


Living in the past does not help the present and the future.   Nobody argues about the excellent record of past New Zealand teams - the question is - are the [present teams going to maintain that proud history?


For that you have to watch out for new indicators - so what would that be this year?   That is why I am looking forward to the upcoming Super 15 series.


I know pre-season matches really means nothing - but then we need to see what happens  early in Super 15 itself and especially when teams start playing away games  outside of their home conferences.    That would be very interesting.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Feb 2014, 11:35
#13
02 Feb 2014, 11:35#13

Cloudy


Nobody should want any player to fail.  However, it is a team sport and players are not alone in determination of their performances.  Marshall no doubt can and hopefully will pass - but he has a weak tight five to contain with and that remsins a problem for him. 

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Feb 2014, 12:48
#14
02 Feb 2014, 12:48#14
 Time will tell whether Benji will cut it at the top end of Rugby, the media can wet their panties evrytime he touches the ball but it's down to how boy genius performs when the pressure is on that's going to tell whether he is the real deal.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Feb 2014, 14:27
#15
02 Feb 2014, 14:27#15
 Maybe so, like I've said, time will tell and for the sake of the Blues I hope he does.
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
02 Feb 2014, 18:35
#16
02 Feb 2014, 18:35#16

 Dense he passed the test on the weekend.... So what if it was'nt against yr pussies from Australia in Burkes backyard....

 

Benji's been competing there all his life even captaining top Aussie teams not to mention lifting the trophy as captain of the World Champion Kiwi side so he definitely has the credentials and the mettle...

 

...he's a natural footballer that has played much tougher football than SuperXV so don't make me laugh talking about how he'll cope with pressure ...Benji will be fine once he gets warmed up ...hence the whole purpose of having warmup games ... 

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