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Best anthem in Rugby

Started by Mozart40 REPLIES993 VIEWS· 29 Dec 2018, 03:51
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Dec 2018, 03:51
#1
29 Dec 2018, 03:51#1
Come the day and come the hour Come the power and the glory For we've come to answer our country's call From the four proud provinces of Ireland ..... Ireland, Ireland together standing tall Shoulder to shoulder We'll answer Ireland's call ..... The pub tenor's delight, nothing else comes close.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Dec 2018, 12:50
#2
29 Dec 2018, 12:50#2

Ehem Dr Moz you feeling okay? What a tiresome dirge the irish anthem is!

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
29 Dec 2018, 13:38
#3
29 Dec 2018, 13:38#3
Compared to the potpourri of BS that our lot dish up at international games, eh. For me La Marseillaise is one of the most passionate anthems, albeit quite bloodthirsty at first glance. To arms, citizens ... Frenchmen, as magnanimous warriors, Bear or hold back your blows! Spare those sorry victims, For regretfully arming against us. (repeat) But these bloodthirsty despots, These accomplices of Bouillé, All these tigers who mercilessly Tear apart their mother's breast! To arms, citizens ... Sacred love of the Fatherland, Lead, support our avenging arms Liberty, cherished Liberty, Fight with thy defenders! (repeat) Under our flags may victory Hurry to thy manly accents, So that thy expiring enemies See thy triumph and our glory! To arms, citizens ...
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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
29 Dec 2018, 21:28
#4
29 Dec 2018, 21:28#4

The Americans have a waltz for an anthem. They're predictably surprised when you inform them of this. Go figure.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Dec 2018, 06:27
#5
30 Dec 2018, 06:27#5
Oh those dumb Americans that gave you the internet....perhaps they're surprised because even if it's written in 3/4 time, that's not the way it's sung. The Italian national anthem would get my runner up slot. Didn't help the Italians at Soldier Field though.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
30 Dec 2018, 17:06
#6
30 Dec 2018, 17:06#6
Flower of Scotland is a certified goose bump raiser.  
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Dec 2018, 22:25
#7
30 Dec 2018, 22:25#7
"Oh those dumb Americans that gave you the internet."
Tim Berners-Lee is British.
Before you launch into one of your defensive, ill-informed and childish tirades, put up a useful URL that doesn't start with "www."
Go on then . . .
LMAO!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Dec 2018, 22:29
#8
30 Dec 2018, 22:29#8

I'm with Shezza. Scotty!!!!


O flower of Scotland
When will we see your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
That stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again.


And although our anthem is a conglomerate, I don't mind it too much and actually think it's right up there with the bests....like the NZ one...not too shabby either.

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NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
30 Dec 2018, 23:19
#9
30 Dec 2018, 23:19#9

Ah. Rooinek/Rooidoos/Rooiaas/Rooitwat. We meet at last. For whatever reason, I was initially accused of being you in disguise. Judging by the number of (rather colorless - pun intended) epithets you've attracted and the febrile, yet toothless barrages I endured as your alternate persona on this meaningless little forum, you seem to have had a significantly unsettling impact on it's users, historically.

Americans of course import their intelligence . They simply don't have a culture that would allow them to grow their own.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
31 Dec 2018, 00:34
#10
31 Dec 2018, 00:34#10
When the western world got to Africa, there was no sign of the invention of the wheel.... The wheel has existed longer than written records in most continents around the world- presumably during the caveman era. 
I believe the internet was invented by the American military in the 80's- but it became more user-friendly with mass adoption when a Brit in Switzerland- if I memory serves me correctly, invented the world wide web. (HTML- a text-based markup system with hyperlinks that connected pages on websites, as well as pages with other websites).  
Africa only invented taking a democratic legal system and corrupting it beyond imagination. The smartest African people get nowhere in this system, instead the corrupt and incompetent get to the top. If an alien civilisation got to earth, how could the African predicament be explained? 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 00:36
#11
31 Dec 2018, 00:36#11
Hahaha....Bingi meet Bongi....better to import your intelligence than export it huh? But thanks for the compliment.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 00:49
#12
31 Dec 2018, 00:49#12

Here you go NadaBenoni er Urinal....the article on who invented the internet is from Britannica, hardly a US source. Check out the names..all born and bred Yanks.

Just below the article there is a piece on why banana skins turn brown, maybe they also opine on why they are so slippery.


LMAOFY&Y 

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
31 Dec 2018, 06:56
#13
31 Dec 2018, 06:56#13

Both the Scotland and Ireland anthems are crackers.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
31 Dec 2018, 06:57
#14
31 Dec 2018, 06:57#14

Scotland by a country mile ...

ND
NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
31 Dec 2018, 07:41
#15
31 Dec 2018, 07:41#15

Personally, I find the primitive, male-choir  'We will eat you up and shit you out' bit of the NZ anthem (just before the game starts) amusing to watch. Whilst it doesn't threaten artistically  Beethoven's variations on GSTK/Q, it serves to remind us of the value of limited timbral, harmonic, and melodic variation, and rhythmic uniformity in activities that lie close to the fundamental evolutionary imperatives. And please, if you're lower on the evolutionary scale: don't take umbrage, all is well intentioned. Regards, Ndaba.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 09:58
#16
31 Dec 2018, 09:58#16
Wehe . . . "here you go" says Moffie and proceeds to put up a link to a URL starting with www.
Did you not understand what I said, stupidissimo? Would some pictures help?
Waaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 10:09
#17
31 Dec 2018, 10:09#17
Ndabadingi, if you were accused of being me then you must have said something critical of Moffie.
Quite a few new posters have been driven away from this site because of similar accusations. Whenever anyone has started posting here and noticed what a pompous, conceited and childish little man Moffie is and has said anything to that effect, that poster is immediately assumed to be Rooinek by Moffie and his band of Servile Gimps and has been hounded off the board.
You don't need to justify who you are to these sad little losers. Just ignore their hissing and snarling, however pathetic and obsessive it gets.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Dec 2018, 12:55
#18
31 Dec 2018, 12:55#18

Quite amazing really, poor ickle rooijackass never grows up. A veritable Peter Pan mentally speaking!


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
31 Dec 2018, 14:25
#19
31 Dec 2018, 14:25#19

"Americans of course import their intelligence. They simply don't have a culture that would allow them to grow their own."

I couldn't disagree with that statement more. 

The Wright brothers, Ford, Jobs, Gates, Edison, Hemingway, Morgan...And let's not forget Twain ;)

Maybe the Yanks are a few points lower than on average IQ scores than their Euro counterparts.

The difference being that Americans don't just talk the talk. They walk the walk. Something Europe used to do...more than half a century ago.

The way sport is analysed in the US tells you exactly what a pragmatic and sensible people they are. One can't argue with that many gold medals. 

1500 more golds than second placed Russia...or 150% more. Russia is on 1000 and the US on 2500. Shout out to the UK on 850 haha. That really is a sport mad little island.

The day the US decide to take rugby seriously, they'll both dominate it and bring a much needed analytical perspective to the sport. Something no other nation seems intelligent enough to do.





MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 15:42
#20
31 Dec 2018, 15:42#20
I put up a link to an article that disproved your stupid theory....that was all I wanted to do....no more. As for the chasing away argument, last time you made that case was (falsely) about Ole Cruz. Still laughing about that one. Schplottttt again I'm afraid.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 15:48
#21
31 Dec 2018, 15:48#21
Spot on Plum....let's not forget medical acheivements though....the polio vaccine and organ transplants for example.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Dec 2018, 15:59
#22
31 Dec 2018, 15:59#22

On other forums Rooi used to end all post with his trademark: "Regards, Rooinek"


Ndabaningi did it a while ago in reply to Cloudy saying tbat Ndaba can't possibly be Rooinek. Now Ndaba ended bis previous post with the "Regards" signature.  Nda is either Rooinek or the two knows each other very well and are working together...like was the case with "Kitchener".

I would wager they all are Rooinek, but Nda has the ring of the Kitchener alter....and he deliberately dropped the "Regards" clue for some odd reason....Bizarre to the extreme .


Happy New Year you crazy lot!!!

BO
Boorad1Club Pro106 posts
31 Dec 2018, 16:15
#23
31 Dec 2018, 16:15#23

Scottish anthem for me.  As a proud Irish man I fully support the four proud provinces and the reasons it was adopted but it leaves me a little cold.  The words are fine but the melody is too bland.  Most of my buddies agree.  Have been to quite a few Ireland v Scotland matches the Scottish anthem wins hands down.  Have to stop myself joining in every time.




MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 16:32
#24
31 Dec 2018, 16:32#24
The Scottish anthem pining for past glories, the flawed Robert the Bruce.....Ireland answering 'our country's call' today. As a neutral I'd pick Ireland anyday.....but I suppose words are largely irrelevant.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 16:54
#25
31 Dec 2018, 16:54#25

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 17:03
#26
31 Dec 2018, 17:03#26
LMAOFY!
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 17:12
#27
31 Dec 2018, 17:12#27
Plum, total medals are pretty meaningless. Of course the USA is going to win more medals than Great Britain, they have 5 times the population.
If the USA had to compete as the various States - which would put their populations in line with most other competing nations - they'd be dead average.
Per capita medals are much more significant and this website is a very good resource which allows you to compare per capita medals using options such as Summer/Winter Games or both; gold medals vs total medals and many other filters.
Here is the total medal per capita list for all Summer Games:

Rank      Country                Medals Population          Population

per Medal

1              Finland 303         5,407,040             17,845

2              Sweden               494         9,490,683             19,211

3              Hungary               491         9,962,000             20,289

4              Bahamas              13           353,658 27,204

5              Denmark             194         5,580,516             28,765

6              Norway                153         5,005,700             32,716

7              Bulgaria                217         7,364,570             33,938

8              Jamaica 78           2,705,827             34,690

9              New Zealand     117         4,432,620             37,885

10           Estonia 34           1,318,005             38,764

11           East Germany    409         16,111,000           39,391

12           Switzerland        191         7,870,100             41,204

13           Australia              496         22,880,619           46,130

14           Cuba      219         11,241,161           51,329

15           Grenada              2              110,821 55,410

16           Netherlands       285         16,731,770           58,707

17           Romania              306         19,042,936           62,231

18           Bermuda             1              64,237   64,237

19           Trinidad and Tobago       19           1,317,714             69,353

20           Great Britain      848         62,262,000           73,422

21           Belgium                148         10,951,266           73,995

22           Iceland 4              319,575 79,893

23           Slovenia               23           2,057,540             89,458

24           France  712         65,350,000           91,783

25           Greece 116         10,787,690           92,997

26           Austria  87           8,452,835             97,159

27           Tonga    1              103,036 103,036

28           Czechoslovakia 143         15,000,000           104,895

29           Italy       578         60,776,531           105,149

30           Mongolia             26           2,736,800             105,261

31           Virgin Islands     1              106,405 106,405

32           Belarus 87           9,461,400             108,751

33           Latvia    19           2,070,371             108,966

34           Germany             733         81,831,000           111,638

35           Netherlands Antilles       2              227,049 113,524

36           Yugoslavia           90           10,348,473           114,983

37           Canada 300         34,771,400           115,904

38           United States    2,522     313,382,000        124,259

39           Lithuania              25           3,192,800             127,712

40           Croatia  33           4,290,612             130,018

41           Poland  282         38,501,000           136,528

42           Georgia                32           4,469,200             139,662

43           Ireland  31           4,588,252             148,008

44           South Korea       264         48,580,000           184,015

45           Slovakia                28           5,445,324             194,475

46           Czech Republic  53           10,610,947           200,206

47           Armenia               16           3,268,500             204,281

48           Azerbaijan          44           9,111,100             207,070

49           Kazakhstan         69           16,718,000           242,289

50           Luxembourg      2              511,800 255,900

51           Suriname             2              529,000 264,500

52           Soviet Union      1,010     272,000,000        269,306

53           Barbados             1              274,200 274,200

54           Japan    439         127,650,000        290,774

55           Bahrain 4              1,234,571             308,642

56           Russian Federation         462         143,056,383        309,645

57           Spain     147         46,196,278           314,260

58           Uruguay               10           3,251,526             325,152

59           Qatar     5              1,699,435             339,887

60           West Germany 204         72,562,666           355,699

61           Ukraine                127         45,644,419           359,404

62           Australasia          12           4,651,848             387,654

63           Kenya   99           38,610,097           390,000

64           Puerto Rico         9              3,725,789             413,976

65           Portugal               24           10,561,614           440,067

66           Moldova              8              3,559,500             444,937

67           North Korea       54           24,052,231           445,411

68           Serbia   15           7,120,666             474,711

69           Argentina            74           40,117,096           542,122

70           Namibia               4              2,324,000             581,000

71           South Africa       86           50,586,757           588,218

72           Montenegro      1              620,029 620,029

73           Guyana 1              784,894 784,894

74           Turkey  95           74,724,269           786,571

75           Djibouti                1              818,159 818,159

76           Tunisia  13           10,673,800           821,061

77           Cyprus  1              838,897 838,897

78           Uzbekistan         34           29,123,400           856,570

79           Fiji          1              868,000 868,000

80           Israel     9              7,859,300             873,255

81           Kuwait  4              3,582,054             895,513

82           Taiwan  24           23,234,003           968,083

83           Singapore            5              5,183,700             1,036,740

84           Lebanon              4              4,259,000             1,064,750

85           Costa Rica            4              4,301,712             1,075,428

86           Iran        68           76,309,000           1,122,191

87           Panama                3              3,405,813             1,135,271

88           Mauritius             1              1,286,051             1,286,051

89           Chile      13           17,402,630           1,338,663

90           Dominican Republic        7              9,378,818             1,339,831

91           Morocco              23           32,526,800           1,414,208

92           Brazil     127         192,376,496        1,514,775

93           Gabon  1              1,534,000             1,534,000

94           Ethiopia                53           84,320,987           1,590,962

95           Zimbabwe           8              12,754,000           1,594,250

96           Mexico 67           112,336,538        1,676,664

97           Colombia             27           46,475,000           1,721,296

98           Venezuela          15           27,150,095           1,810,006

99           Kyrgyzstan          3              5,477,600             1,825,866

100         Kosovo 1              1,859,203             1,859,203

101         Tajikistan             4              7,616,000             1,904,000

102         Botswana            1              2,038,228             2,038,228

103         Macedonia         1              2,057,284             2,057,284

104         Algeria  17           37,100,000           2,182,352

105         Thailand               30           65,479,453           2,182,648

106         Hong Kong          3              7,103,700             2,367,900

107         China     543         1,347,350,000     2,481,307

108         Malaysia              11           28,334,135           2,575,830

109         Egypt     29           81,927,000           2,825,068

110         Cameroon           5              19,406,100           3,881,220

111         Burundi                2              8,038,618             4,019,309

112         United Arab Emirates     2              8,264,070             4,132,035

113         Uganda 7              32,939,800           4,705,685

114         Haiti       2              10,085,214           5,042,607

115         Eritrea   1              5,415,000             5,415,000

116         Serbia and Montenegro                2              10,832,545           5,416,272

117         Ghana   4              24,223,431           6,055,857

118         Togo      1              6,191,155             6,191,155

119         Jordan  1              6,289,800             6,289,800

120         Paraguay             1              6,337,127             6,337,127

121         Zambia 2              13,046,508           6,523,254

122         Nigeria  24           162,471,000        6,769,625

123         Côte d'Ivoire      3              21,395,000           7,131,666

124         Syria      3              21,532,000           7,177,333

125         Ecuador                2              14,483,499           7,241,749

126         Peru      4              30,135,875           7,533,968

127         Indonesia            30           237,641,326        7,921,377

128         Niger     2              16,274,738           8,137,369

129         Saudi Arabia       3              27,136,977           9,045,659

130         Philippines          10           92,337,852           9,233,785

131         Sri Lanka              2              20,653,000           10,326,500

132         Mozambique     2              23,700,715           11,850,357

133         Afghanistan        2              24,485,600           12,242,800

134         Senegal                1              12,855,153           12,855,153

135         Guatemala          1              14,713,763           14,713,763

136         Pakistan               10           179,309,000        17,930,900

137         Tanzania              2              43,188,000           21,594,000

138         Vietnam               4              87,840,000           21,960,000

139         Sudan   1              30,894,000           30,894,000

140         Iraq        1              33,330,000           33,330,000

141         India      28           1,241,491,960     44,338,998

Unfortunately I screw the margins up when I paste it so I've had to unformat it but that still says a lot about the Scandinavian countries and I know you'll be horrified to see New Zealand punching well above its weight.
As for the USA? Like I said, dead average and a long way behind Great Britain.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 17:18
#28
31 Dec 2018, 17:18#28

Unfortunately the above table screws up the margins when I paste it formatted so I had to paste special but you can still clearly see how remarkable the Scandinavian countries  are and you'll be horrified to see New Zealand punching well above its weight.

As for the USA, like I said, dead average and a long way behind Great Britian.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 17:20
#29
31 Dec 2018, 17:20#29
Pffffffffffhahahahaha!
Draad has never been the shiniest coin in the fountain.
I suspect Draad knows as much about secret identities as he knows about the theory of the Big Bang.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 17:36
#30
31 Dec 2018, 17:36#30
Your chart is a bit of a dog's breakfast....perhaps I could provide a link to the article? And your logic is also a mess. Why don't you just provide track and field per capita....and in the last 20 years. If you are going to use All Time medals....you can't divide that by current population.....it unfairly punishes faster growing populations. Not the sharpest pencil in the box.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Dec 2018, 21:39
#31
31 Dec 2018, 21:39#31
There is a link to the article you profoundly stupid little man.
You read about as well as your alter ego Bozo.
Happy New Year Moffie.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Dec 2018, 23:30
#32
31 Dec 2018, 23:30#32
There is now, never saw it before, but perhaps I just missed it in the pile of crud. Still you haven't absorbed the message.... from 1960 to 2015 Brit pop has gone from 52.37 million to 59.9 million. The USA from 180.6 million to 371.0 million. Dividing the medals by 59.9 in one case vs 371 in the other, is to divide the USA medals by 6.2 times as much as the UK medals.......whereas at the midpoint in 1960 you would only have divided the US medals by 180.6 to 52.37 or 3.4 times as much. You have horribly over estimated the population effect, even allowing medal counts have increased in later years. You can apply current populations to current medals....you can't divide aggregate historical medals by current population for a host of reasons, the most obvious being differential population growth. I hope that helps, wishing you all the best in 2019 Urinal.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Jan 2019, 15:16
#33
01 Jan 2019, 15:16#33

Haha Rooi

By that reasoning, India had the kakest cricket team in the known universe.


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Jan 2019, 16:56
#34
01 Jan 2019, 16:56#34

"I suspect Draad knows as much about secret identities as he knows about the theory of the Big Bang."

Please enlighten me a bit on this "secret identities" Rooi...and please dumb it down so even I can understand it...and please explain the peculiar coincidences  too. It should not be too difficult for an intellectual giant like yourself.

"Regards Rooinek" in this thread

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
03 Jan 2019, 14:15
#35
03 Jan 2019, 14:15#35

Watching the final of the Cape Town Sevens it took the Fijian players a full minute to recover from their anthem,had to find it :-

Blessing grant oh God of nations on the isles of Fiji
As we stand united under noble banner blue
And we honour and defend the cause of freedom ever
Onward march together
God bless Fiji

CHORUS:
For Fiji, ever Fiji, let our voices ring with pride
For Fiji, ever Fiji, her name hails far and wide,
A land of freedom, hope and glory, to endure what ever befalls
May God bless Fiji
Forever more!

Blessing grant, oh God of nations, on the isles of Fiji
Shores of golden sand and sunshine, happiness and song
Stand united, we of Fiji, fame and glory ever
Onward march together
God bless Fiji.


.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Jan 2019, 17:02
#36
03 Jan 2019, 17:02#36
There are some stinkers out there....Bargie for example.....and the Aussie anthem sounds like something that is best sung in a kindergarten
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
04 Jan 2019, 02:21
#37
04 Jan 2019, 02:21#37
Can’t fathom why no-one has mentioned the Welsh anthem which for me is far and away the most spine tingling when sung at the Millennium Stadium. Paddies in 2nd followed closely by the Jocks.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
04 Jan 2019, 05:16
#38
04 Jan 2019, 05:16#38
The New Zealand anthem /Haka is the best- if you are a horror movie fan of films like Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street. The throat slitting mo tion really does it for me.
ND
NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
04 Jan 2019, 05:48
#39
04 Jan 2019, 05:48#39

I'm sure the mighty aapdans is primitive enough for you.

ND
NdabaningiClub Pro116 posts
04 Jan 2019, 05:57
#40
04 Jan 2019, 05:57#40

I struggle to get my head around this childish intimidatory 'skewebek-trek' thing. It would hardly have been enough to trigger the political transformation of the NSA. Well, maybe. It conceivably could have circumvented negotiating them into submission .

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