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BISMARCK THE BRIDESMAID?

Started by Papamoa10 REPLIES151 VIEWS· 26 Jul 2014, 09:54
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
26 Jul 2014, 09:54
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26 Jul 2014, 09:54#1

It is an uncomfortable image, the fearsome Bismarck du Plessis and his band of Sharks, one of the more intimidating units in Super Rugby and a franchise desperately keen to shake off a moniker that doesn’t mix well with the team.

Yes, the Sharks are Super Rugby’s perennial bridesmaids, officially the most successful side never to have won the tournament.

In eight appearances in the finals, the men from Durban have reached the decider on four occasions.

Yet the Blues, Brumbies, Bulls and Chiefs have each time prevented one of the powerbases of South African rugby from bringing home the Southern Hemisphere’s Holy Grail of provincial competition.

This time around, it will be the Crusaders who stand between the Sharks and potentially a fifth appearance in a Super Rugby Final.

And there are plenty of portents that support the side from the Republic despite the red and blacks pedigree, boasting seven crowns while they are in the midst of a remarkable 16th showing in the knockout stages of the season.

-    The Sharks are the best touring team in Super Rugby this season, winning five of their eight matches away in 2014, including wins in Melbourne, Christchurch and Albany.

-    Jake White’s preferred template of rugby is well suited to elimination football, a relentless forward pack and a physical style that has ensured many teams have achingly trudged off the field against the Sharks this year.

-    The return of Pat Lambie is a big factor, with the 23 year old out of action with a biceps injury for most of the season until his surprise return off the bench against the Highlanders last weekend. A Lambie / Frans Steyn axis is potent both with ball in hand and from the boot, but will be up against one of the great conductors of our time in Dan Carter.

-    They have the Bismarck. The massive hooker is unequalled as the finest rake on the planet, a superstar forward who often has significant contributions to make in the heat of battle. If his power game stirs then the Crusaders could be in trouble, while the thought of the rugged hooker in a bridesmaid’s dress is the stuff of nightmares.

One thing is for certain, the Sharks will need to match the Crusaders feats of 1999 (the only team to win Super Rugby after finishing the regular season outside the top two) if they are to break what has become an uncomfortable trophy absence.

Those four…

1996: Blues 45-21 Sharks

An All Black laden Blues outfit was too powerful at Eden Park, with Zinzan Brooke relying on a pack boasting the likes of Sean Fitzpatrick, Olo Brown and Michael Jones. Despite being coached by the legendary Natal coach Ian McIntosh, the Sharks under Gary Teichmann were clearly fatigued having played in Brisbane the weekend before.

2001: Brumbies 36-6

As it was with their first final, the Sharks came up against a pseudo international side with the Brumbies at the time having the backbone of the Wallabies team, and with no New Zealand sides in the top four, many felt that ACT only needed to turn up to claim their first crown. While the Sharks had thumped the Cats the weekend before, the long trip to Canberra was clearly a step to far as George Gregan’s Brumbies ran riot. Captain Mark Andrews and a young John Smit had little influence in the contest.

2007: Bulls 20-19 Sharks

Oh the agony for Sharks supporters as Springboks flyer Bryan Habana crossed in the 82nd minute to give the touring Bulls their maiden Super Rugby championship. Smit’s team must have thought they had conquered history when Albert van den Berg scored a try in the dying stages, but credit to Victor Matfield’s outfit who kept the ball alive at the death to break Durbanite’s hearts.

2012: Chiefs 37-6 Sharks

One only had to look at the Sharks feats over the fortnight leading into this match, with valiant wins in Brisbane and Cape Town before reaching the decider in Hamilton. The longest journey by any Super Rugby Finalist in history clearly took a toll against a Waikato based side that had not had to travel once in the knockout stages. To the tourists credit it was a scoreless first quarter, before Tim Nanai-Williams crossed in the 19th minute to start the four-try to nil procession.

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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Jul 2014, 13:51
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26 Jul 2014, 13:51#2
 mate bissie is a pretty strong guy and has his moments but he blows hot and cold. he was one of the most inconsistent player for the sharks before Jake joined and he is still inconsistent now. He can be massive at the breakdown if you allow him access to the ball, but this relies on the pack first stalling the momentum and structure of the opposition. He relies on too many things to be right first before he can be effective and hasnt improved on certain part of his game. i think he is a great option off the bench. in fact i think he is the best kind of player to come off the bench because his strength is just too much in closing parts of the games or around the 50-60 minute mark. i prefer guys who are more accurate and who can find was of being effective when the team isnt firing. guys like smit when he was playing, or botha, chiliboy, strauss and even britz. I lost a lot of respect for bissie last year after he ruined our campaign with his standard petulant play off the ball and in the ellis park grudge match he was completely invisible from start to finish. he and alberts need to take a long hard look at themselves because they have been a liability far too much now.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
26 Jul 2014, 14:13
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26 Jul 2014, 14:13#3
 Gonzo/Sun-Tzu/Allucard, you don't know your arse from your elbow.
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Jul 2014, 14:18
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26 Jul 2014, 14:18#4
 i know my rugby damn well. please tell me what happened in new zealand and then tell me ONE contribution from Bismarck at Ellis Park. Take your time buddy, no more terrets please.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 14:23
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26 Jul 2014, 14:23#5
 Shezza this grunt thinks De wet Barry was better than Jean and Spies should be 7 for the Boks. Hahahahahhahaha Gonz ou the grunt is a great addition to the board!!!!Cant be Alucard.
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Jul 2014, 14:41
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26 Jul 2014, 14:41#6
 Heres something to think about...







He was outplayed in both games by the all black 2! He also missed 100% of his tackles against Argentina at home, was also invisible at home when he turned over 1 of his only 2 runs in the game and made 1m. no tackles then so no impact on defence.

Heres a doozy...



away to aussies, three runs and 2 turnovers conceded. he bleeds balls in contact. he concedes a hell of a lot of turnovers every season! and he is a crap lineout thrower. ill give him this, hes a good scrummager, but thats it and dont make me laugh saying his a leader. that is just frikin rubbish. .

mate i dont know what you are thinking, you can believe what you want but i have a point here and i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are. you dont see me spitting my dummy out when someone disagrees with me. even more than that if you arent going to counter with some info then dont bother speaking at all. thankyou.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:16
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26 Jul 2014, 15:16#7
You just spat out the dummy yourself, bit contradictory. I'm not going to waste my time, you're opinion is wrong. 
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
26 Jul 2014, 17:04
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26 Jul 2014, 17:04#8
 And Bismarck's SR results continue. I actually really like Bismarck and his aggressive style. Super Rugby is over now he can get back to trying to claim a Rugby Championship .
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2014, 17:17
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26 Jul 2014, 17:17#9
 I guess we were all waiting for the "big hit" on Carter ... still waiting.
But seriously, I rate Bismark as one of the top hookers in the world. Other than losing his cool once & a while he is fine by me.  Before you all start bleating, the hit on Carter was legitimate even if it was a blindside tackle.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
26 Jul 2014, 18:34
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26 Jul 2014, 18:34#10
Allways the bridesmade, and never the bride. And Bismaark must be the ugliest bride ever.
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
27 Jul 2014, 15:13
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27 Jul 2014, 15:13#11
 Thats a pretty disturbing image really. Better luck next year Sharkbok.
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