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Bismark all black public enemy #1

Started by Papamoa18 REPLIES337 VIEWS· 02 Oct 2013, 18:17
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
02 Oct 2013, 18:17
#1
02 Oct 2013, 18:17#1

Bismark will be having the toughest night of his career. All Blacks will not allow the man any chance of roaming freely like at Eden Park. And will be targeted like a squad of SA on Lomu. Shut down Bismark, the team losses any sting, look at the complete loss of attack last time the two teams meet. After he left. AB by 25 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
02 Oct 2013, 18:45
#2
02 Oct 2013, 18:45#2
 The Wee All Black forwards could not contain the power and might of Bismaark. He was a man amongst boys. He turned the All Black breakdown into buffet, eat as much as you like.  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Oct 2013, 18:56
#3
02 Oct 2013, 18:56#3

Papamoa

 

The All Blacks will make a serious mistake by trying to play Bismarck and not the team,  While Bismarck keep a few of them busy - the rest will have a ball.   That is a wrong approach and if I was Hansen I would warn them against that one.

 

Lomu was never a factor against the Springboks - he never scored a single try against them - they did not allow him to get past and went low and tackled him.   They also kicked the ball behind him and he was very poor in ball recovery in such cases.

 

My question to you is - how do you do it not to allow a player to roam around as you put it - without going against the law?   Very difficult since it could end up in penalties.

 

  

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
03 Oct 2013, 00:49
#4
03 Oct 2013, 00:49#4
 Let Bismarck roam around......it'll only be a matter of time before he gets himself in the crap and gets sent off......probably with his brother, the eye doctor!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Oct 2013, 01:05
#5
03 Oct 2013, 01:05#5
Bissie I think you showed the wee abs whats in store for them  -  they are on tranquilisers and sedation right now. 
NT
ntangaClub Pro336 posts
03 Oct 2013, 01:10
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03 Oct 2013, 01:10#6
Papamoa, your assessment of the Bok team is seriously limited and smacks of naivety.  Keep Bissie occupied with more than two ABs players because 1 player isn't enough to contain him, mind you your boys are too feeble to be tackled.  But while your team struggles to tame Bissie, unexpected Bok players will score tries.   

As for Jannie, he's not known for dirty play, after all, Rugby is a contact sport.  By this I don't mean eye gauging as per your claim.

   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2013, 01:23
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03 Oct 2013, 01:23#7

Just because the bald Aussie hopped around like a man on hot coals, doesn't mean Jannie deliberately gouged his eye. Think about it, Jannie is an intelligent man and his brother has just been red carded. Why for crying out loud, would he risk everything for no pay off. It defies logic and history, Jannie has been clean as a whistle throughout his career.

 


 

Having a detached retina is no fun....I've had that experience. But there are plenty of instances where  hands make contact with faces and even eyes in rugby. The soccer like tendency these days is play it up and infer it's deliberate.

 


One thing the Boks don't do is play act out there....and that's admirable.

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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
03 Oct 2013, 01:50
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03 Oct 2013, 01:50#8
 Ha ha you guys are to easy. Just curious to see the comments. Bis is one of my favorite SA players. Can't wait to see him in action. Very hard man to deal with. Be very interesting to see how the AB handle him this time. Hore is the man to try and contain him. Can't see him handling him on his own.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
03 Oct 2013, 01:59
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03 Oct 2013, 01:59#9
 isn't he in Prison yet?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
03 Oct 2013, 02:04
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03 Oct 2013, 02:04#10
 no when that Welsh player woke up in hospital missing memories for 3 weeks before the match, he forgot to press charges.
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
03 Oct 2013, 02:12
#11
03 Oct 2013, 02:12#11
 One thug against another.
PO
polyboyClub Pro601 posts
03 Oct 2013, 02:33
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03 Oct 2013, 02:33#12
Clevermike, regarding Lomu, the fact that he never scored a try against SA points more to the fact the regard the Boks did hold Lomu as an attacking force so paid closer attention to him.  I've noticed this "Lomu never scored against the Boks" so he wasn't that good amongst various SA posters who wear it as a badge of honour.  Regardless Lomu as a player had more impact on the rugby world than any rugby player ever has, Etzebeth even mentions him as his rugby idol demonstrating his impact on SA rugby.  So no impact on the Boks I think not.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 Oct 2013, 02:49
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03 Oct 2013, 02:49#13
 Oumaaik, ask Kronfeld who tracked the big fella & scored many a try . He's to rugby like Pele to soccer ... live with it .
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
03 Oct 2013, 04:40
#14
03 Oct 2013, 04:40#14
bismarck is small fries, he means nothing to the greater picture and thats not even the RC/4nats, its about winning period.

let the other nations deal with the intricacies of their rugby plan, but All Blacks No1 goal is to keep the win column ticking along.
100% winning streak in 2013 is the top goal, wallys thwarted that streak last year and the Boks are the last of four teams who can do it this year.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Oct 2013, 06:38
#15
03 Oct 2013, 06:38#15

blokbok

 

I would not say that Lomu was the rugby equivalent of Pele.   In his career he scored 37 test tries - 16 of those against minor unions - and 14 against England and Australia - teams who at the time was struggling as was evidenced in their performances during the period 1995 to 1997.

 

Australia was weak as is evident in their 63 - 22 loss against SA in Pretoria in 1997 and a record win against England at home by the Springboks during the same period.   No doubt Lomu  made hay whilst the sun shined against those two countries.

 

He was a top wing - but not really the best wing ever - even though the NZ supporters made him out to be so.  He also had his difficulties in going backwards to recover balls and that was exploited by the SA teams in particular.

 

Was he a performance enhancing drug abuser?   There were indications that he was - kidney problems are often associated with it - but there has been no actual prove of it 

 

    

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Oct 2013, 09:25
#16
03 Oct 2013, 09:25#16
 Note to Bismarck: 
"Don't blindside the ref" all others are fair game, lol
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Oct 2013, 10:46
#17
03 Oct 2013, 10:46#17

Cloudy 

 

Latest news that was made public - not very good I am afraid.   There was a court case about a book written about his marriage and in court they argued that the book should not be released - because his health is so poor that any undue stress can cause his death.  

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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
03 Oct 2013, 21:17
#18
03 Oct 2013, 21:17#18
I enjoyed watching Lomu come threw the ranks, and then be one of the youngest or the youngest can't remember, but he was exciting to watch if he didn't score, he would intimidate his fellow wingers, most half his size. Later on, lost his edge. I always remember seeing 4-5 SA swinging off him like a pack of dogs, AB should of used it more as drawing in defense instead of expecting him to storm threw for a miracle try.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
03 Oct 2013, 23:13
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03 Oct 2013, 23:13#19
In Lomus first few years (2-3) he was exceptional. 
It seems his kidney made him weaker and weaker overtime and when it seemed he was not as formidable as he once was, perhaps it was just because he was only playing at 80%, then 70% then 60% of potential.
It took ages before he was diagnosed with dialysis, so it was probably something that just got worse over time.
Also in 1995 the game was still amateur at the World Cup. Backline players were much smaller back then, but Lomu was like 125kg.  Lots of of backline players were like 80KG, some less.
This was before creatine and other supplements and the live in the gym live style became mainstream. Lomu probably would not make the same impact he did at the time he did.

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