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Started by Saffolk 13 REPLIES268 VIEWS· 31 Mar 2014, 14:38
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 14:38
#1
31 Mar 2014, 14:38#1

They did so well to come from behind and dominate the game, only to let the foot off the pedal at the end. The Bulls showed that the only way to challenge the Chiefs is to dominate them up front and play it close.......they did that for 85% of the game.......the start and end of the game was the Bulls downfall.

 

 

Hougaard continues to grow at 9 which is great to see. Stegman had a great game. The Bulls need to get their impressive centres into the game more.......playing for territory and keeping it tight is working, but it would be good to see them mix it up more.

 

 

Good to see the Sharks back on track, despite some suspect selections by Jake. Deysel had a great game, Coetzee continues to shine and Lewies looks a great prospect at 5.

 

 

We need to see more with ball in hand from Frans and JP

 

 

How Coetzee ever thought he was going to win a game playing a lightweight at lock is beyond me and speaks volumes for the man as a coach. v/Vuuren was sorely exposed........instead of playing the physical Fuzani, he played this lightweight - it was a joke. Grant had an awful game and did Jean play. de Jongh was good in space but exposed in contact. Taute had a poor game at the back, he is very rusty and will improve with game time.

 

 

Great to see Coetzee being given the boot - he is useless. Is Smal the right man, cant say I am convinced he is

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 15:21
#2
31 Mar 2014, 15:21#2
You have to be kidding right...."the Bools impressive centres" ....followed by "de Jongh was exposed in contact".  The Bools lost that game because JJ missed the crucial tackle....again.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 16:14
#3
31 Mar 2014, 16:14#3

JJ did not miss a tackle, the guy was on his knees......stop making it up, its embarrassing.

 

Go check de Jongh in contact, gets thrown around like a ragdoll......FACT   

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
31 Mar 2014, 16:21
#4
31 Mar 2014, 16:21#4
 
And to think you two were holding handies last week ...
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
31 Mar 2014, 16:22
#5
31 Mar 2014, 16:22#5
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
31 Mar 2014, 16:23
#6
31 Mar 2014, 16:23#6
"The Bulls showed that the only way to challenge the Chiefs is to dominate them up front and play it close....
"The Bulls need to get their impressive centres into the game more" ??? ???
Good thing you are not giving the half time team talks.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 17:09
#7
31 Mar 2014, 17:09#7

Serfontein was in the game 6 times and did nothing. JJ and Serfontein have done nothing for 6 weeks. And when I say nothing that's being generous.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Mar 2014, 18:19
#8
31 Mar 2014, 18:19#8

Serfontein has been better than Jean and Frans for most of the S15......JJ has been as good as the ball he has received and no better or worse than any of the other SA 13.

 

As I keep sayings until our others centres start showing the way then I'm more than happy to conceded that these two class acts are falling short.

 

Difference is, I know that centres have little opportunity to shine, they get little ball and much of it in traffic   

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 18:28
#9
31 Mar 2014, 18:28#9

So Dave JJ is useless because centres get little chance to shine? Pity nobody told that to his opposite number. Horrell made 2 clean breaks, beat 2 defenders, offloaded 4 times and got credited with 2 try assists. But then again, his marker JJ was mostly hiding on the blindside.

 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Apr 2014, 15:00
#10
01 Apr 2014, 15:00#10

Um Moz, the Chiefs play running rugby......the Bulls play it tight......huge difference

 

 

You will find those kind of stats for the Chiefs backs every week and why I keep saying they have the right model......they play winning rugby

 

 

Who said JJ was useless? 

OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
02 Apr 2014, 02:51
#11
02 Apr 2014, 02:51#11
 Saff - "The Bulls showed that the only way to challenge the Chiefs is to dominate them up front and play it close".

Spot on. Applies to the Boks vs AB's and Wallabies as well. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
02 Apr 2014, 05:05
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02 Apr 2014, 05:05#12
Disagree, it is the best way, but not the only way. 
If space opens up out wide, then the opportunity has to be taken- and bring in the likes of Habana, JP, Leroux etc.
It is good to dominate the territory game with our forwards and strong kicking game, but then kill games off when the space opens up out wide.
OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
02 Apr 2014, 06:22
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02 Apr 2014, 06:22#13
Chances out wide should of course be taken and the Boks improved immensely last year in that aspect but that space out wide starts and ends with up front and tight play dominance and set piece superiority. No other way.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
02 Apr 2014, 10:38
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02 Apr 2014, 10:38#14
 Sharkbok

Status: Senior player
Posts: 2824 RE: Bloody Bulls
April 02, 2014, 03:05:37 Disagree, it is the best way, but not the only way. 
If space opens up out wide, then the opportunity has to be taken- and bring in the likes of Habana, JP, Leroux etc.
It is good to dominate the territory game with our forwards and strong kicking game, but then kill games off when the space opens up out wide.



Only problem is that Habana is only playing again, this weekend since goodness know when, and we have just more than two months before the June tests. He will also only be available for the RC until 31 August. I am not too sure what the position with JPP is.
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