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Bok rabble in need of rescue

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2017, 11:56
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Ex SA Rugby Mag:

The shambolic Springbok performance against Ireland, as well as Allister Coetzee’s post-match statements regarding the coaching team’s inferiority should be read as a cry for help, writes JON CARDINELLI.

‘It’s a terrible place to be,’ Francois Louw said of the Boks’ situation following the 35-point defeat in Dublin on Saturday. One got the feeling that he was completely disgusted with himself and his teammates after yet another inadequate physical and tactical showing.

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Coetzee’s Boks continue to make history for all the wrong reasons. The 2016 season witnessed inaugural losses to Ireland and Italy, a first-ever away defeat to Argentina, a then-record loss to the All Blacks, and the heaviest defeat to Wales. Overall, the Boks won 33% of their matches in what was their worst season to date. 

For all the talk of progress in 2017, Coetzee’s charges find themselves in a position where they’ve lost 57-0 to the All Blacks in Albany and 38-3 to Ireland – another record defeat – in the space of two months.

The Boks are in a hole, and if the comments made by Coetzee and Louw in the wake of the Dublin debacle are any indicator, they lack the means to get out of it.

One wonders how many more of these ‘worst-defeat ever’ scenarios we will have to endure before those in charge –  read Coetzee’s bosses at SA Rugby – realise that significant changes are needed to the coaching staff and to the team itself.

It’s easy to forget that the All Blacks went into that game in Albany without several frontline players. Ben Smith was missing, as was Israel Dagg, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks and Joe Moody. The All Blacks still managed to put eight tries past the Boks.

Ireland went into the recent game against the Boks without Jamie Heaslip, Jared Payne, Keith Earls, Simon Zebo and a few more who may have vied for bench positions. Joe Schmidt was forced to hand Bundee Aki a Test debut at No 12 and pick two inexperienced wingers. Ireland still managed to score four tries and 38 points against South Africa.

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Coetzee is stating the obvious when he says that Steve Hansen and Schmidt outsmarted him and his coaching team on those occasions. He is being economical with the truth, however, when he suggests that the Boks were beaten by settled teams with experience across the board, teams with fewer injury concerns that those of his own team.

Could the Boks have put a better side on the park in Dublin? If one accepts that Coetzee has to select from the 34-man group on tour, then the answer is no. Perhaps the Boks would have been more competitive if Handré Pollard started ahead of Elton Jantjies – who looks less and less like a Test-standard flyhalf with every outing.

But then Coetzee got his selections wrong before the Boks even boarded the plane for Europe. The decision to travel to the northern hemisphere with such an inexperienced group made no sense. Whether Raymond Rhule or Dillyn Leyds wore the No 14 shirt in Dublin, Coetzee was always going to be in a position where he had to field a back-three with zero experience of playing Test rugby in wet and heavy underfoot conditions.(AND FAR TO FLIMSY TO EVER REALLY CUT IT)

Why was Jan Serfontein allowed a leave of absence? Why were World Cup-winners Frans Steyn and JP Pietersen overlooked? Why was Duane Vermeulen not brought into the squad after proving his fitness for his club Toulon?

The management, and in some cases the ongoing snub of players based in Europe, are not helping the national side. The policy of selecting a team comprised largely of local players isn’t helping either.(AS NOTED BY THE ESTEEMED BEENO WHO AFTYR ALL BELIEVES IN MERIT SELECTIONS!)

Where is this Boks side going? Ireland are likely to meet the Boks in a 2019 World Cup quarter-final. Based on what we saw on Saturday, Schmidt’s team will have every reason to believe that they can bully and kick on the Boks in that fixture, just as they did on a memorable night in Dublin two years previously.

Schmidt’s assurances that the Boks are on the right track and that the coaching staff is world class are hard to take seriously. Johann van Graan, one of the more valuable members of the team, will be taking up a post with Munster after the Test in France next week. Defence coach Brendan Venter won’t be available when the Boks travel to Italy thereafter. Whether Coetzee stays or goes before 2019, the selfsame coaching staff won’t be at the World Cup.

There’s been no information forthcoming about possible replacements, indeed no sign that Coetzee himself knows what he’s going to do when Van Graan and Venter are elsewhere. When pushed, Coetzee confirmed that he and new director or rugby Rassie Erasmus will only meet in the new year.1

If sanity prevailed, Erasmus would join the coaching staff in the lead-up to the match against France. Players like Vermeulen, who has declared himself fit and available, Steyn and several others would inject some much-needed experience and tactical intelligence into the squad.

Those changes wouldn’t solve all of the Boks’ problems, but they would see the side moving in the right direction.

RA SSIE HAS A HUGE JOB ON HIS HANDS BUT IT IS UNLIKELY THAT HE HAS  THE FREEDOM TO DO THE JOB.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2017, 12:06
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t he Springboks continue to be hamstrung by the bizarre decisions taken by the coaching staff and the SA Rugby administrators, writes JON CARDINELLI in Dublin.

‘Hang on a minute,’ the Irish journalist pleaded. His expression belied feelings of confusion and disbelief. The information that I’d relayed clearly wasn’t computing.

‘So you’re telling me that Rassie Erasmus is still in Ireland. He’s been working here [with Munster] for more than a year and has a good knowledge of the local game.

‘He was recently named the South African director of rugby. The Boks are in Dublin this week, but Allister Coetzee won’t meet with him at all?’

We both attended the press conference in St Helens on Monday. Coetzee confirmed that he and Erasmus would not meet until early 2018.

How about making time for a phone call or a coffee to discuss strategy during a Test week? Apparently it’s impossible.

How about reaching out for any sort of help ahead of a Test that could render this tour a relative success? Coetzee gave those present at the media gathering the impression that the thought had never crossed his mind.

My new Irish friend kept trying to add up his South African rugby sum. I started to wonder how the international media and indeed the fans from other countries must view us a rugby community.

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‘[Assistant coach] Johann van Graan will replace Rassie at Munster, but he will leave in the middle of the Boks’ four-game tour? How does that work?’

Good question. The Boks will be without a lineout specialist ahead of the games against Italy and Wales, games in which the set pieces will be crucial.

‘[Defence coach] Brendan Venter is still contracted to Italy? What’s going to happen when the Boks go to Padua in two weeks?’

‘Brendan won’t coach against the Boks,’ I tell him.

He gives me a look. I raise my hands in surrender. ‘That’s the official line.’

‘What about this game in Dublin?’ he says, shaking his head. ‘This is South Africa. Who are they really missing in terms of injured players?’

‘They’re missing a full back row if you consider that Jaco Kriel, Jean-Luc du Preez and Warren Whiteley have all been ruled out for extended periods.

‘Duane Vermeulen has played a couple of games for Toulon since returning from injury, though. He declared himself fit and available for selection this past Sunday. The Boks aren’t interested.’

‘Why?’

I shrug. Why indeed.

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‘Who else is unavailable?’

‘Jan Serfontein will be missed,’ I offer. ‘He was one of the stars in the series against France; one of the Boks’ most influential players on defence. Apparently the Boks have granted him leave to settle at his club in France while the team tours Europe.’

‘Hang on, hang on,’ he says. The Irish newspapers have been up in arms over Simon Zebo’s defection to France. Forget the game against the Boks. This – along with the 2023 World Cup bid race – is the big issue in Irish rugby at present.

More than one media outlet has aligned the South African team’s results of the past two years with the number of players – over 300 – playing abroad. Will Ireland suffer the Boks’ fate? Clearly some feel that Zebo could be the first of many to seek fame and fortune in the French Top 14.

‘Elton Jantjies has started all nine games for the Boks this year,’ he says, trying to change the subject. ‘Why would Coetzee say that Handré Pollard now has the inside lane at flyhalf?’

‘Jantjies, Franco Mostert and Francois Louw won’t be available for the final tour match against Wales,’ I tell him. ‘Jantjies has also been with his Japanese club recently while Pollard has been in camp with the Boks.’

His eyes widen as if I’ve told him an incredible joke. He taps away on his laptop for two or three minutes and then turns to me again.

‘So, do you think the Boks have any chance this Saturday?’

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Nov 2017, 12:19
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 tHIS IS LAST PART OF THE ABOVE ARTICLE FROM RUGB Y MAG

More than one media outlet has aligned the South African team’s results of the past two years with the number of players – over 300 – playing abroad. Will Ireland suffer the Boks’ fate? Clearly some feel that Zebo could be the first of many to seek fame and fortune in the French Top 14.

‘Elton Jantjies has started all nine games for the Boks this year,’ he says, trying to change the subject. ‘Why would Coetzee say that Handré Pollard now has the inside lane at flyhalf?’

‘Jantjies, Franco Mostert and Francois Louw won’t be available for the final tour match against Wales,’ I tell him. ‘Jantjies has also been with his Japanese club recently while Pollard has been in camp with the Boks.’

His eyes widen as if I’ve told him an incredible joke. He taps away on his laptop for two or three minutes and then turns to me again.

‘So, do you think the Boks have any chance this Saturday?’


T HIS ABOUT SUMS UP THE STUPIDITY AT PLAY.

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