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Bok squad for RC

Started by Shezza24 REPLIES541 VIEWS· 03 Aug 2013, 14:17
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Aug 2013, 14:17
#1
03 Aug 2013, 14:17#1

 Willem Alberts (Loose forward), 21 test caps

Bjorn Basson (Wing), 9
Marcell Coetzee (Loose forward), 13
Juan de Jongh (Centre), 14
Jean de Villiers (captain, Centre), 87
Bismarck du Plessis (Hooker), 48
Jannie du Plessis (Prop), 45
Fourie du Preez (Scrumhalf), 62
JJ Engelbrecht (Centre / Wing), 4
Eben Etzebeth (Lock), 14
Bryan Habana (Wing), 86
Zane Kirchner (Fullback), 24
Siya Kolisi (Loose forward), 2
Juandré Kruger (Lock), 11
Pat Lambie (Flyhalf / Fullback), 23
Willie le Roux (Fullback / Wing), 3
Francois Louw (Loose forward), 19
Tendai Mtawarira (Prop), 44
Trevor Nyakane (Prop), 3
Coenie Oosthuizen (Prop), 5
Ruan Pienaar (Scrumhalf), 66
Chiliboy Ralepelle (Hooker), 22
Jan Serfontein (Centre), 3
Gurthrö Steenkamp (Prop), 40
Morné Steyn (Flyhalf), 45
Adriaan Strauss (Hooker), 24
Flip van der Merwe (Lock), 26
Franco van der Merwe (Lock), 0
Jano Vermaak (Scrumhalf), 1
Duane Vermeulen (No 8), 7

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Aug 2013, 14:23
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03 Aug 2013, 14:23#2

 As you can see, no Reinach and no Labuschagne...

It's clear that Meyer is going to play Louw, Alberts and Vermuelen as the loosies which is to slow for comfort.

We also see the return of Fourie Du Preez who has been selected over Reinach which is wrong.

The return of Guthro is also displeasing.

BB
Bok -Bef$KClub Pro216 posts
03 Aug 2013, 14:25
#3
03 Aug 2013, 14:25#3

Mmmmm interesting to see Fourie back.

I would've done without Kirchner,Pienaar,Franco, and chosen

Van Zyl,Pieter Steph (if fit) and Deon Fourie

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Aug 2013, 18:34
#4
03 Aug 2013, 18:34#4

 Van Zyl is going to replace Du Preez when he leaves the squad as he can only play a part of the RC. Du Toit is still injured as well as Malherbe!

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
03 Aug 2013, 18:58
#5
03 Aug 2013, 18:58#5

 Shezza you idiot. You just commented on 2 seperate threads being created, and then you create a 3rd one. 

Stick to writing about Harry Potter

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Aug 2013, 19:29
#6
03 Aug 2013, 19:29#6

How embarrasing for you, look at the times each thread was created! I created my thread long before yours you pleb...

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2013, 21:39
#7
03 Aug 2013, 21:39#7
Not surprised Labuschagne isn't there.....he disappears in tight games.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Aug 2013, 21:43
#8
03 Aug 2013, 21:43#8

Against the Brumbies he played well...

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2013, 22:00
#9
03 Aug 2013, 22:00#9
A fine player, but just not physical enough to impact our RC opponents. He has high tackle counts, but so does Coetzee, and Coetzee was not a factor last year. Test rugby at loosie requires either unusual strength or great ball carrying ability. I see neither in Coetzee or Labuschagne. They will try hard and do a few good things....but not enough...in my view.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Aug 2013, 22:06
#10
03 Aug 2013, 22:06#10

" I believe, in terms of playing international rugby, openside is the position where Deon has the best chance of making it". Allistair Coetzee - as guided by Beeno.

Meyer must also take note - he has only got Louw as a fetcher.

Yes some disappointing selections but injuries are partly to blame for this. Meyer obviously doesnt like throwing to many youngsters into RC. 

Some injured players may come back and some like Reinach can stake a claim in the Currie Cup. S

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Aug 2013, 22:46
#11
03 Aug 2013, 22:46#11

Nice to see de Jongh stIll in the mix. He had an injury plagued S15, and some disappointing games. But he certainly bested JJ a few weeks back.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Aug 2013, 23:04
#12
03 Aug 2013, 23:04#12

 Rather have seen Allende selected! To me JJ is a much better bet. Still a bit raw but getting there.

Snapster and Mike will no doubt have a good solid hig pitched rant!          

SA  Rugby players should not go to Japan. Shows no loyalty. Bekker, JP, Brussouw all missing.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Aug 2013, 23:08
#13
03 Aug 2013, 23:08#13

 Both Lappies and Arno Botha are around 103kg, judging by Botha's performances against Italy alongside Spies and against Parisse and co, he played superbly. Lappies will have the same effect with his incredible workrate.

We need a mobile Loosie as Flouw isn't the fastest and Vermualen is pretty slow, Alberts plays well against the NH teams which don't play expansive rugby as he is an especially physical player but against our Kiwi and Aussie cousins he is rendered useless as he doesn't make 'bonecrunching' tackles and doesn't carry well.

JJ is nearly test proven, Juan De Jong is proven useless.

Now I know you were trying to get a rise off me, what now you've gotten rid of Mike you want more? Guess that Rooineks opinion of you is becoming rather rationale after all.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2013, 00:08
#14
04 Aug 2013, 00:08#14

Proven  useless? Hmmmm? But still good enough to beat the Sharks twice and win the CC. Still good enough to be picked by the national selectors. And good enough to beat JJ a few times, while taking down the Bool with no problems.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
04 Aug 2013, 00:25
#15
04 Aug 2013, 00:25#15

Hasn't proven himself a formidable outside center in the super 15, JJ has. 13 isn't a position we are blessed with at the moment, he also fits the quota. Nah, didn't beat JJ at all and didn't did anything of notice against the Bulls. De Jong has the pleasure of having De Villiers inside of him who has been on fire this year, Jan Serfontein has done the same to JJ but on a lesser scale, JJ impressed me even when he had Wynand Olivier next to him.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2013, 00:39
#16
04 Aug 2013, 00:39#16

On the contrary on 3 separate occasions JJ had help bringing down de Jongh.....and Juan beat him up the left hand touchline, only to be partially stopped by Ndungane, after which JJ got back to make the tackle. These are facts.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
04 Aug 2013, 00:59
#17
04 Aug 2013, 00:59#17

 First of all JJ was covering Frans Venters defence deficiencies in that match as well as holding his part of the line, but you continue to mention these occurrences even though Saffex has countered your lies.

KE
KeaganzulusmithClub Pro175 posts
04 Aug 2013, 01:07
#18
04 Aug 2013, 01:07#18

 still do not think that JJ is the 100% answer at 13 well not until he proves he is a world class tackler and will not be thrown around! i still think he is just a flashy wing that has a good step and some pace but i do like how he does bring that extra pace to the centre pairing! only time will tell how he can cope with the big dogs in the RC

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2013, 01:20
#19
04 Aug 2013, 01:20#19

A perfect summation KZS.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
04 Aug 2013, 02:32
#20
04 Aug 2013, 02:32#20

 Typical

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
04 Aug 2013, 13:33
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04 Aug 2013, 13:33#21





freedom cup, tick.


 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Aug 2013, 14:10
#22
04 Aug 2013, 14:10#22

Sorry Moz there is no way in hell de Jongh ever got the better of JJ, one little side step that amounted to nothing as JJ caught him with ease anyway.

 

JJ is twice the centre de Jongh is and the experiment with de Jongh as a test candidate has to end - he will NEVER be a test centre for the simple reason that he is far too small to make an impact. It would have made far more sense bringing in de Allende as a squad player with the likes of JJ, Serfontein and Jean being the test picks.

 

de Jongh is going nowhere, there is something positive about de Allende.......logic dictates that he should be in the squad.

NU
nukefreekiwiClub Pro441 posts
04 Aug 2013, 14:30
#23
04 Aug 2013, 14:30#23

 Hehehe, Meyer is making PdV look like a forward thinking rugby savant with all this revisionist tripe.  FdP???  WTF!  Argies will be licking their collective chops at the prospect of a clean sweep against this Bokke squad. Oh deary deary me.  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Aug 2013, 16:25
#24
04 Aug 2013, 16:25#24
JJ may have more potential, but head to head de Jongh prevailed....the only reason JJ caught de Jongh after he beat the Bool was Ndungane had a crack at Juan and slowed him up. I hope JJ succeeds, I really do. But I can't help but feel, everything he does well....looks like wing play. Take his try against the Brumbies....a pure wingers try.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
04 Aug 2013, 17:40
#25
04 Aug 2013, 17:40#25

jj is a million times better then de jong, but i still rate de jong and think hes a decent player,a any spXV franchise would be lucky to have someone like him, but at international level, there are plenty who are better.

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