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Bok -Bef$KClub Pro216 posts
20 Nov 2013, 15:30
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20 Nov 2013, 15:30#1

15 Willie le Roux: 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Jean de Villiers (captain) 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Flip van der Merwe, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira

Substitutes: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Gurthrö Steenkamp, 18 Lourens Adriaanse, 19 Bakkies Botha, 20 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 21 Siya Kolisi 22 Jano Vermaak, 23 Patrick Lambie

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Bok -Bef$KClub Pro216 posts
20 Nov 2013, 15:33
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20 Nov 2013, 15:33#2

 Real pity about Du Preez, we will definitely see the gap between him and Pienaar, in fact Pienaar has never been a class player.

 

Jacque Fourie???? Mmmmm not so sure

 

Glad Willie is there.  Good to see Pieter Steph on the bench.

 

One utility back (Lambie)?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Nov 2013, 16:05
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20 Nov 2013, 16:05#3
 Pathetic backline except for out wide. This Bok side will lose to France. Their backs will have too much for this lot. We lack attacking clout from 9 to 13
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2013, 17:06
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20 Nov 2013, 17:06#4

This is a weird side.   The Bench are made up of 6 forwards and 2 backline players.


One has to wonder about that one.  Meyer insists on having Bakkies Botha - despite a low key and very average performance against the Scots on the bench - and is prepared to gamble that Fourie - after a poor game against the Welsh and a vey ordinary one against the Scots - will be able to put his hand up against the French.


One wonders why Meyer has to sacrifice a backline replacement in a desperate effort to find a place or Bakkies Botha.   Our locks (Etzebeth, Van der Merwe and Du Toit) are probably the best locks in world rugby at  present - yet he adds a lock to the match day squad.


Our real problem is with the backline - where we have   four top players (Le Roux, Pietersen, Habana and De Villiers)  and 3 very iffy ones (Fourie, Steyn and Pienaar).  One would have thought that he should take out insurance against a flop by the iffy three - by at least adding another center to he squad - but Meyer takes out insurance in a position where such insurance is not necessary.


One has to really wonder why that happened?          

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Nov 2013, 17:28
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20 Nov 2013, 17:28#5
 
Yeah right ... we're in for a hiding ... again ... just like we were in for a hiding against the Welsh and against the Scots, hey Stupid!!

Now I guess it's the French's turn to thrash us. 

Interesting that we have only two backline players on the bench.

I must say it's FRIGGIN AWESOME TO SEE THAT THE USELESS JJ IS NO LONGER IN THE MATCH 23.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!

Go Meyer ... you beauty!!!!!!!!!!

Gooo Bokkke!!!


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Pine in IrelandClub Pro101 posts
20 Nov 2013, 17:44
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20 Nov 2013, 17:44#6
 Deadly backline. Bakkies and steph to bully them in the end. Still not sure who amuses me more stupid or dumber. lol
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Nov 2013, 18:02
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20 Nov 2013, 18:02#7
 
Yeah ... it's a toss up.

Should see how funny it gets when these two start arguing with each other. Friggin hilarious.

You can honestly have a better and more satisfying conversation with a pot plant than with either of these two.

I guess you already know that, hey Pine!



 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2013, 18:30
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20 Nov 2013, 18:30#8

Pine


I hope you are amused too on Saturday - when we have problems in that backline combination.  


Pienaar is not the scrummie he was five years ago and I am worried about him on Saturday.   He was not really up to standard In all tests he played in this year - so he is a source for concern.


The second weak spot is the robotic Morne Steyn - whose defence is indeed questionable.  He was poor in the RC with a missed tackle ratio of 19%  and in the Wales test it was 20%.   Aside from his failure as a backline pivot, I do not trust him to perform remotely up to standard under pressure.  That pathetic kick in the Super 15 final - that resulted in the winning try being scored by the Brumbies - and his failure in the Ellis Park test - condemned even by Naas Botha -  are two examples of such failures.


The third weak spot is Fourie - he was pathetic in the Wales Test when  Davies twice ran past him as if he was not even on the field of play.  Luckily for Fourie Davies went off injured. otherwise the Welsh backline would have had a field day.   Against the weak Scottish centers he showed nothing in attack - but at least he made his tackles.   The French centers are of a different class - so the question is - will it be another Davies  day" on Saturday.  Quite likely to happen.


I would have go ne for a win by the Springboks - but that backline is a major headache and one can only wonder whether the test will be won or lost.   However, a loss is a real possibility as a result of Meyer's unreasonable selections - especially in view of my comments above.  

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Pine in IrelandClub Pro101 posts
20 Nov 2013, 20:12
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20 Nov 2013, 20:12#9
 Pienaar has been poor this year, I admit but he played relativly well last yeat at the end of year tour. His been consistantly one of ulster best players and one of europes best scrummies. These conditions suit him more. Meyer predicts a close game so fourie is better as jj cant tackle. fourie has had two games to get use to our defensive lines so we will see on saturday. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2013, 20:22
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20 Nov 2013, 20:22#10
 Have to admit to being surprised re picking two lock reserves and 6 forwards on the bench. Kolisi before Marcell as well is a surprise. JJ should have made the bench in place of Bakkies.It's an odd team but let' s see what happens.
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sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
20 Nov 2013, 21:26
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20 Nov 2013, 21:26#11
 The bench is wrong. 
No cover for fly-half the most important position on the field.Lambie has been dropped and so has JJ. 
Jan Serfontein continues to peel oranges in the team bus
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Nov 2013, 10:10
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21 Nov 2013, 10:10#12
 
Huh??

Lambie covers 10 & 15.

What surprises me is that not only does he have a 6/2 split on the bench but he uses a lock to cover the blindside flanker when we have a perfectly fit Coetzee in the squad.

Clearly he's thought about this ... I can see he's opened up his options ... he needs to cover both the blindside and openside flankers because of recent injury worries ... still, he has me a little stumped.


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Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
21 Nov 2013, 14:41
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21 Nov 2013, 14:41#13
Kolisi before Coetzee is to appease the Socialist regime shoveling our country onto the dung-heap.
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