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Boks coach Coetzee could get the boot in coming weeks

Started by Brycy8 REPLIES1,140 VIEWS· 12 Nov 2017, 18:30
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Nov 2017, 18:30
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12 Nov 2017, 18:30#1
...A lister Coetzee’s remaining time as Springbok coach can be counted in weeks‚ not months‚ after the Boks slumped to a record 38-3 loss against Ireland in Dublin on Saturday.

Inside sources revealed that SA Rugby president Mark Alexander had a heated exchange with Coetzee in the immediate aftermath of the Dublin debacle‚ reminiscent of scenes after the Boks lost to Italy in Florence in 2016.

SA Rugby’s executive committee is set to meet in early December where Coetzee’s contract will be terminated following two seasons of disastrous results.

It is understood that some thought had been given to recalling Coetzee immediately following the latest embarrassment‚ but that plan has been shelved in favour of a formal dismissal process.

The Boks still have Tests against France‚ Italy and Wales to come on the current tour and could suffer further humiliation‚ but changing coaches mid-tour would serve little purpose.

Mark Alexander. Picture: SUNDAY TIMES

Under Coetzee the Boks have won only nine of 22 Tests and racked up all sorts of record losses and unwanted firsts.

In September they slumped to a record 57-0 defeat against the All Blacks in Albany‚ which has now been compounded by this latest setback against Ireland.

While Coetzee has to shoulder the blame because he is the ultimate decision-maker‚ the players were culpable too at the weekend.

Seldom have the Boks delivered such a passive‚ tepid display. What they lacked in skill and tactical nous‚ they couldn’t even make up in aggression and physicality.

Tactically‚ technically and emotionally‚ the Boks offered nothing. They looked like a team going through the motions and the players’ performances bordered on mutinous.

After the match Coetzee offered no reasons for the defeat and spoke half-heartedly about ‘fighting back’‚ which of course is just empty rhetoric.

After losing 25-24 against the All Blacks at Newlands‚ you would have sworn SA won the match given some of the comments in days and weeks after.

Considering the All Blacks had a tough travel schedule and had already won the Rugby Championship there was little glory in that defeat.

NZ were without Joe Moody‚ Brodie Retallick‚ Ben Smith‚ Israel Dagg and Owen Franks.

They also lost flyhalf Beauden Barrett and wing Nehe Milner-Skudder to injury before halftime‚ yet Coetzee held up the losing performance as some sort of achievement.

"This is an important tour for us and our standard of play has to be at the level of our last match against New Zealand in Cape Town‚" Coetzee said in the lead up to the Ireland match.

That’s how far the Boks have slumped.

The coach holds up defeats against the All Blacks as a measurement of success.

Mercifully the end is near.

TimesLIVE

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Nov 2017, 18:35
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12 Nov 2017, 18:35#2
 Three potential banana skins awaiting SA in the form of France, Italy and Wales - all potentially career ending for the SA coach... 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Nov 2017, 18:49
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12 Nov 2017, 18:49#3
This is a bit rich of Alexander to heap everything on Coetzee. One would think that someone in his position would at least have the decency to shoulder some of the blame. What happened to all the bravado when he took over? What’s more.... who would they replace him with? Who in his right mind would be foolish enough to go for it?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Nov 2017, 18:57
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12 Nov 2017, 18:57#4
. ‘After losing 25-24 against the All Blacks at Newlands‚ you would have sworn SA won the match given some of the comments in days and weeks after. Considering the All Blacks had a tough travel schedule and had already won the Rugby Championship there was little glory in that defeat. NZ were without Joe Moody‚ Brodie Retallick‚ Ben Smith‚ Israel Dagg and Owen Franks. They also lost flyhalf Beauden Barrett and wing Nehe Milner-Skudder to injury before halftime‚ yet Coetzee held up the losing performance.’ . The usual mouthing occurred after Newlands.....we haven’t beaten a decent team since Morne engineered our win over Oz last year. Coetzee should be gone today....that sends a message.
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sharkbokCaptain23,257 posts
12 Nov 2017, 21:25
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12 Nov 2017, 21:25#5
I think he should be fired this week- and Rassie should take over for the remainder of the tour- given he is the now the Director of rugby. He has the recent coaching experience in the Northern Hemisphere. A successor can be found for next year- too late now to do anything else.
If his own employers are speaking this way in the media- there is no point in continuing if the coach knows he is going to get fired.
They may as well fire also Brendan Venter - and make Nienabaar the defence coach. A backline specialist coach should be on the shopping list. 
Once an opposition coach has worked out the Venter game plan- he hits the road. His exit strategy is one dimensional- Just kick the bloody ball away if you are in your own half. 

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BokBFClub Pro421 posts
12 Nov 2017, 23:32
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12 Nov 2017, 23:32#6
 A change in government will make me sit up and hope for a constructive change,Anything less is just moving the chess pieces around. AC should have got the sack after loosing to a 14 man Ireland 18 months ago! Alexander the puppet master should have gone a year ago after the fuck up that was 2016.



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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
13 Nov 2017, 02:30
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13 Nov 2017, 02:30#7
 Like I Said before the Boks need a Kiwi Coach.
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
13 Nov 2017, 03:07
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13 Nov 2017, 03:07#8
 I am available next year, I know nothing about coaching rugby but neither does the current coach so I am obviously fit the criteria that SA rugby is looking for.
3 year contract required and I promise to ignore the quota system as well
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2017, 09:18
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13 Nov 2017, 09:18#9
 The ignoramus should never have been appointed in the first instance.   Warnings about the poor record for years at the Stormers were ignored and after a disastrous Meyer years, the appointment of Coetzee showed a further declimne in performance requirements.  
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