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Started by Just_win18 REPLIES544 VIEWS· 31 Jul 2016, 14:48
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Jul 2016, 14:48
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31 Jul 2016, 14:48#1

South Africa head coach Allister Coetzee has named a selected group of players to attend a four-day camp in Stellenbosch this coming week.

The Bok squad to play in the first two matches of the Rugby Championship will be named on Saturday, August 6 after the Super Rugby final.

In the meantime, Springbok coach Coetzee on Sunday invited a group of players to a fundamentals, rehabilitation and conditioning camp in Stellenbosch, to be held from 1 to 4 August. No Lions or overseas-based players were considered. 

The purpose of the Stellenbosch camp is to give the Springbok management first-hand opportunity to assess the medical and fitness condition of the selected group of players.

"We will use the four days to spend some time on our fundamentals, continued rehabilitation and conditioning of this group of players," said Coetzee.

"Our management will be working hard during these four days and it will give us a good indication of the progress of those players who have recovered from injury, or those currently battling with niggles."

Players invited to a Springbok rehabilitation and conditioning camp: Damian de Allende (Stormers), Lood de Jager (Cheetahs), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Stormers), Jesse Kriel (Bulls), Pat Lambie (Sharks), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Oupa Mohoje (Cheetahs), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Lwazi Mvovo (Sharks), Sikhumbuzo Notshe (Stormers), Trevor Nyakane (Bulls), Coenie Oosthuizen (Sharks), Rudy Paige (Bulls), Handré Pollard (Bulls), Jan Serfontein (Bulls), Adriaan Strauss (Bulls)


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Jul 2016, 14:52
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31 Jul 2016, 14:52#2
 Lions players are "otherwise engaged", it will be interesting to see how many of them get included in the training squad & who they will replace. Another article talked about Lambie and Pollard being in "rehab squad".
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2016, 16:23
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31 Jul 2016, 16:23#3
Of which I select Etzebeth, Stephanie and  Pollard as worthy participants.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2016, 16:42
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31 Jul 2016, 16:42#4
 

I am not optimistic about that lot. 

Unlikely to feature due to injuries

Malherbe, Pollard,  Serfontein

Top class players

Etzebeth,  Du Toit

Reasonable selections

Lambie, De Jager, De Allende, Koch, Mtawarira, Notshe, Nyakane

Poor choices

Jesse Kriel,  Mohoje, Mvovo, Oosthuizn, Paige, Strauss

 

Mohoje, Mvovo and Paige are out and out quota selections  - should be playing CC rugby. 

 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Aug 2016, 10:09
#5
01 Aug 2016, 10:09#5
 Coetzee is as clueless as ever.
Can't wait for the RC to begin.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Aug 2016, 14:12
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01 Aug 2016, 14:12#6

What the hell are Mvovo and Paige doing in that squad?


Non Lions Ulengo, Sergeal Petersen and Ismeil are far better on the wing and the right colour!

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Aug 2016, 16:30
#7
01 Aug 2016, 16:30#7
 We've seen what pressure someone ignorant under the high ball can put his team under. 
No use selecting a high paced wing if he can be exploited in that area. 



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Aug 2016, 16:34
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01 Aug 2016, 16:34#8
He used to have high pace but at 30, no longer has that either
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
01 Aug 2016, 16:45
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01 Aug 2016, 16:45#9
Sergeal Peterson should be in the squad. The Mvovo side of the pitch is a liability. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Aug 2016, 21:35
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01 Aug 2016, 21:35#10

There are two players missing from the squad - namely Willie le Roux and JP Pietersen.  I am nor surprised - both has not really been  up to standard for a while now.   However, I do not see Kriel as an acceptable full back either.    

I know that the following players have been excluded  from  the squad:-

*    Players from the Lions playing in the Super  Rugby final ;

*    Players playing for foreign clubs

*    Players from the sevens Olympics tournament

There may be one or two Sevens players called up – but most of the players involved are actually sevens  specialists – so not too many expected from there.

From the foreign club players I would say only Bismarck du Plessis, Duane Vermeulen, Stephen Kitshof   and  Johann Goosen deserve a call up.   I would think that Louw is not worth another chance.

I would say the following Lions players are definite:

Ruan Combrinck, Lionel Mapoe, Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Elton Jantjies, Faf de Klerk, Warren Whiteley, Jaco Kriel, Julian Redelinghuys and Malcolm Marx.

I think that Coetzee should also consider Smith, Ross Cronje and  Franco Mostert  as possible candidates.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Aug 2016, 10:57
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02 Aug 2016, 10:57#11

Mostert is already in the equation Mike......he was on the Bok bench this season.....his squad selection is a given. 


The new Lions that should be added are Janse v/Renburg, Smith, Marx and Skosan

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Aug 2016, 13:24
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02 Aug 2016, 13:24#12
 Boks make selection blunderPlanet Rugby

South Africa have added hooker Bongi Mbonambi to their preparation camp after "miscommunication" saw him initially miss out on the squad.

Springbok head coach Allister Coetzee on Sunday confirmed 18 players who would arrive for a fundamentals, rehabilitation and conditioning camp.

Mbonambi wasn't named in the squad, with Stormers team-mate Scarra Ntubeni also missing out, meaning Adriaan Strauss was the lone hooker.

South Africa did not include any Lions or overseas-based players in the group, leading many to think Malcolm Marx was set for a Bok call-up.

However in an embarrassing twist Mbonambi's name has been added to the squad with a "miscommunication between members of the management" blamed for his original omission. Ntubeni has been confirmed as being dropped, with Marx still a possible inclusion after the Super Rugby final.

South Africa's first camp is being held from August 1-4 as they prepare for their Rugby Championship opener against Argentina on August 20.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
02 Aug 2016, 13:25
#13
02 Aug 2016, 13:25#13
 Sounds suspicious to me, how can a first class organisation make such a "miscommunication" error?
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
02 Aug 2016, 13:34
#14
02 Aug 2016, 13:34#14
JW, just be glad you NZ'ers don't have to deal with this blatantly political BS! 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Aug 2016, 14:50
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02 Aug 2016, 14:50#15
 Smith?? That's not perhaps Dylan Smith is it, Dave?
Fully agree. He has shown all season long why he deserves a call up.
Would be great to have in the match 23.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Aug 2016, 15:16
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02 Aug 2016, 15:16#16
 This was the result of political pressure from the Government - not miscommunication.   This is BS  in the extreme.   In any event Edgar Marululle is a better hooker than Mbonambi.   Coetzee is again showing that he is going to succumb to every wish of his political superiors.   Rugby is like anything touched by the preset government on the way down.   
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Aug 2016, 23:31
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02 Aug 2016, 23:31#17
 From that squad, the only players that can definitely improve the Lions team, would be Eben. PSDT? maybe. None of the backs are really better, but there are a few 50/50's. From abroad, Kitshoff is the only one that will ad value in the starting 15. A few months ago, Thor would have joined him in my book, but now he must prove himself from the bench. For the rest of the squad, I'll use Lions players and pick the best of the rest to supplement them.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Aug 2016, 23:42
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02 Aug 2016, 23:42#18
 Draad -  There are a few foreign club players that would add value to the team.   The problem with the Lions players is summed up in one statement -  Coetzee would be clueless as to how to use them and their value would be denuded by him.  Bad news.  And then we have the quota system that takes precedence over rugby excellence.    Bad new s insofar as I can read the situation.    
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Aug 2016, 23:42
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02 Aug 2016, 23:42#19
 Draad -  There are a few foreign club players that would add value to the team.   The problem with the Lions players is summed up in one statement -  Coetzee would be clueless as to how to use them and their value would be denuded by him.  Bad news.  And then we have the quota system that takes precedence over rugby excellence.    Bad new s insofar as I can read the situation.    
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