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Boks need better kicking game

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Oct 2013, 16:26
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01 Oct 2013, 16:26#1

Ex Supersport


It may come as a surprise to Springbok fans, but coach Heyneke Meyer has lamented the fact that his team has fallen behind the All Blacks in terms of their kicking game, with the Boks being far too wayward in their kicking this season.

While the Boks have made massive strides at the breakdown under consultant Richie Gray and currently lead the Castle Lager Rugby Championship standings for turnovers won in the competition (Please note ou maaaikie!), they have fallen behind in terms of their kicking game – something that has always been a strength.

Despite their success on the field, and the romantic notion that kicking isn’t necessary in rugby, the All Blacks have become masters of the punt in recent times and have turned a previous weakness into a strength, recognising the value of placing the opposition under pressure with high kicks.

Like anything in modern rugby, the kicking game is only as good as its accuracy, and Meyer has been trying to improve the skillset of the players (Please note ou maaaikie - not just Morne!!!!)  in the team to be a more all-round attacking option.

But with that has come a price, and the Boks have fallen behind in the kicking stakes, rarely regathering high balls this season.


With Du Preez at scrummie the kicking improves considerably.

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IhiClub Pro201 posts
01 Oct 2013, 16:37
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01 Oct 2013, 16:37#2
 always been a strength? come on now for most of the century the boks have been useless in the kicking department. but anyways the boks have rejigged their backline so obviously the fluency isnt totally there yet and the comment on regathering kicks its not only goal let them field it but pressure. all blacks struggle if you can dtretch their back three and quickly zero in on them.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 17:57
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01 Oct 2013, 17:57#3

Beeno

 

The article as quoted confirms what I always said - aimless kicking is a major part of the problems faced by the Springboks in performance. 

 

Has Morne's kicking game improved?   No -  over the past two years it has gone backwards in leaps and bounds.   A few of Du Preez's kicks have also been really poor as well.   Do Preez has made it up with general good performance in other components of the game - but Morne has not.   Morne is one-dimensional and no playmaker and his performances cannot make up for the damage he caused by aimless kicking.

 

Will Meyer be able to correct the problem?   With Morne he has about as much chance as a snowball has in hell.      

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2013, 18:11
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01 Oct 2013, 18:11#4
Geez Hasbeen, do you have to invite yet another rant from the OOM? 
IH
IhiClub Pro201 posts
01 Oct 2013, 18:50
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01 Oct 2013, 18:50#5
 morne made one kicking error, a kick out on the full. i cant recall any other kicking error to be honest. I think the chases lacked intensity on saturday a lone chaser without the entire defensive wall pressing makes it a little easy to deal with especially if the ball goes loose.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 19:11
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01 Oct 2013, 19:11#6

Ihi

 

Morne missed the sideline with two penalty kicks as well and in the case of virtually all other kicks there was a player in his 22 directly where the ball came down and under zero pressure.   Those are bad aimless kicks as they tend to allow for counter-attacks or being driven back in possession and the potential to lose territory.

 

Those type of kicks in my book is aimless and detrimental.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 19:13
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01 Oct 2013, 19:13#7

Mozart

 

Why not comment on the article and forget about me.   The kicking flops are not mine - but in the main those of  Morne - so where are your spirited defence of Morne?  

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IhiClub Pro201 posts
01 Oct 2013, 19:19
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01 Oct 2013, 19:19#8
 Its hard to counter attack if you are way back mmike. a basic principle of counter attacking from a kick is that you run towards the mass of defenders and hold as many as possible. then the players assisting the ball carrier take up running lines to help get the ball into space quickly. the all black try last year against you guys in dunedin was textbook. dagg fielded the kick got the ball away and joined up later running at the centre mass of defenders but offloaded to hore who pounded hard into the defence, dagg joined up two or three passes later out wide and the try was one. point here is that morne never gave away any opportunities like that. the deep fielder of the kick had to advance forward alot to get his retreating players onside but the defence had so much time to adjust. basically it just relieved pressure and made australia start their advance from zero every time i was fugging tearing my hair out watching it! especially the part where folau ran it from inside his own 22 and got turned over!!!
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
02 Oct 2013, 04:41
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02 Oct 2013, 04:41#9
Boks do need a better kicking game.

against the All Blacks nonu was a better technical kicker then morne, pienaar and krichner combined.
always a tough to win anything when ur 10 man rugby plan is ebing excuted at a level less then the oppositions 5th best kicker.

i get a feeling though that du preez will help this area a lot, hes the best technical kicking halfback ever IMO and his tests against the pumas and wallabies shows hes got a lot of his mojo back which he lost in 2011.

morne and dupreezs boot working in tangent is the key tot he Boks beating the All Blacks and even then its going to be a big ask.

but for all the good du preez has done, i cant see him helping the Boks get 4 trys, maybe if they can score two tries through the forwards and an odd intercept or piece of individual brilliance ala habana, so its not impossible, but very improbable.
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