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Boks take a hard look at themselves; Rugby 365

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Nov 2014, 08:59
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09 Nov 2014, 08:59#1

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer said that his team's defeat to Ireland taught them some valuable lessons about what it takes to win in Europe.

Despite dominating the set-pieces, the Boks could not find a way to turn that pressure into points as a stream of basic errors saw them slump to a 29-15 defeat in Dublin on Saturday.

It was their first defeat in the Northern Hemisphere since going down to Scotland in 2010, and although he was disappointed with the result, Meyer said that there were some positives for his team to take from the match a year out from the World Cup.

“We are sorry that we let our country and our supporters down with that performance. Every single defeat hurts.

"However, I'd rather lose one now and see where we're at for the World Cup next year than it to happen then because now I can see where we can adapt and improve," he said.

The Bok coach was impressed with the way Ireland made the most of their opportunities in the conditions to secure what was a comfortable victory in the end.

“The Irish deserve a lot of credit though – they played the conditions better and were tactically superior. We knew it was going to be a tough tussle and we were not good enough on the day.

"Let us not kid ourselves - we played a world class side who nearly beat the All Blacks last year," he said.

Meyer admitted that his side have struggled in wet conditions all year and said that improving their wet-weather play is a priority.

"We have to adapt to different styles of game. You can't play Championship (southern hemisphere) rugby in the ones we had today and we haven't really played well in the wet ball conditions like that all year.

"Although we've evolved in every game we've played against Ireland it is an arm wrestling exercise where you have to wait your moment to open them up," he said.

With another tough assignment against England at Twickenham looming next week, Meyer said that they will be taking a hard look at themselves in order to turn things around quickly.

"We have to take this on the chin and show some character against England, who are a quality side too. We have to look ourselves in the mirror and reflect on what happened out there.

“But we can’t afford to dwell too much on what is in the past. We have a massive game against England at Twickenham on Saturday and we simply have to show a massive improvement because they will be just as tough to beat at home,” he said.

Meyer, who was experiencing just his eighth defeat in 34 tests, said that the yellow card for replacement hooker Adriaan Strauss 14 minutes from the end had halted any momentum they had managed to build having trailed the Irish throughout the game.

"The referee is always right, we're not allowed to say otherwise," said Meyer.

"However, there are no excuses. We could use that as one if we wished to but Ireland were the better side. They outplayed us and outkicked us," he said.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Nov 2014, 09:01
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09 Nov 2014, 09:01#2
 I will watch the full game today as I only caught parts of it yesterday. So far it is not uploaded to accrossthenation.com. 
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
09 Nov 2014, 09:28
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09 Nov 2014, 09:28#3
 Perhaps they should've been having a hard look at the ball instead of their muscles in the changing room mirror? EG Itsabutt who played like a girl's blouse!
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
09 Nov 2014, 10:56
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09 Nov 2014, 10:56#4
funny Moolaa
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Nov 2014, 12:19
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09 Nov 2014, 12:19#5
 Moola one would swear your lot were convincing against a depleted England side. You can thank your stars you were playing the England B side.
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
09 Nov 2014, 15:28
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09 Nov 2014, 15:28#6
 We evened that up Sa ffex by playing with only 14 men
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
09 Nov 2014, 15:31
#7
09 Nov 2014, 15:31#7

 ""We have to adapt to different styles of game"


You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know that.

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
09 Nov 2014, 18:50
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09 Nov 2014, 18:50#8
 In sport you have to lead from the top down.

Meyer and Jean have so far not produced that winning determination such as the All Blacks possess in each and every game.
Even when then are a man down due to a yellow card.
The All Blacks are and will remain the #1 rugby side for the foreseeable future in my opinion.



MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
10 Nov 2014, 06:10
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10 Nov 2014, 06:10#9
 Saffex, we were convincing against England B as you call it but you can only beat what's in front of you or are you suggesting they should have had a 10 point start to make it fair?The Poms only got into our 22 ONCE in the 2nd half only to be awarded a dodgy at best penalty try. This coupled with numerous missed kicks by Cruden and Barrett flattered the Poms margin considerably. You live in England so must have seen the game; even the English press admitted the Poms were schooled, much like the Boks were by Ireland B!!
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
10 Nov 2014, 08:52
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10 Nov 2014, 08:52#10
 Oh get over this biast and prejudice, and just focus on your own team. Ireland put a B side out, and a kiwi on debut and schooled you. Yet NZ owned a England B side, and we were luckey haha! logic for ya. It does not matter who is selected, if your good enough to be selected at inter lvl, you should be good enough to justify that tag. Skill Lvl is no different, it is the top two inches. NZ beat Top England side in the test series in June 3-0. Now were NZ luckey, or just the better team? Think before you make silly statements Saffex. 
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
10 Nov 2014, 17:53
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10 Nov 2014, 17:53#11
 We have plenty of injuries too, you've listened to the Irish commentators. There's only 3 injuries that hampered the Irish considerably Cian Healy, Sean O'Brien and their 12. Rory Best was also injured but he's been very poor for Ulster so the hooker on the day was obviously fine. Gordan D'Arcy was also available for the Irish at 12 but Schmidt didn't pick him. 
Moolaa you're disliking for Etzebeth is showing through you biased comments, jealous?  
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Nov 2014, 18:16
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10 Nov 2014, 18:16#12
 Maybe the Boks should have also played a warm up game, prior to taking on the no1 team in Europe. Our last game was NZ. The guys were a bit rusty. Was it last year NZ barely escaped defeat against Ire? We made too many errors, but ther were some positives as well. Well done Ireland, deserved win!
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
10 Nov 2014, 21:08
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10 Nov 2014, 21:08#13
 Shezza, why would I be jealous of a lock who made 2 tackles all game according to the stats. Over hyped and overrated by some on here all season! Artificially induced muscles do not necessarily transfer into a good player!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Nov 2014, 21:27
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10 Nov 2014, 21:27#14
 The Poms only got into our 22 ONCE in the 2nd half only to be awarded a dodgy at best penalty try.Says ou Mooooo  la. The Poms scrum had the wee abs going backwards as fast as their chubby legs could go. the wee abs were smashed in that scrum and really got man handled in the scrums most of the time. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - As Robson said England had the wee abs on their knees at the end there.
Then we have 3 IQ saying NZ owned an England B side. The wee abs won bya mere 3 points that inlcuded a try by the crude that had it gone upstairs would not have been a try.
Our side is not at ful stength party due to quotas, injuries and bad selections yet we dominated Ireland for most of the game and lost the test due to our handling errors. meyer is correct when identifying wet weather palying as being an issue. Greasy ball  eyc - our guys are not used to this.
Frankly outside of handling our perfromance was more impressive than the wee abs who got cained in the first half by an England  B team tight five. What the first team will do to them is frightening to think. Engla nd can then bring on fresh the guys who outplayed the wee abs in the first half.




SH
Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
10 Nov 2014, 22:13
#15
10 Nov 2014, 22:13#15
 Oooo boy....
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
10 Nov 2014, 22:18
#16
10 Nov 2014, 22:18#16
 Forgot last season already is it Moolaa?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Nov 2014, 22:40
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10 Nov 2014, 22:40#17
Once again Beeno leads the way. 
Boks lost & most Boks supporters are looking for ways to improve. Beeno however sees things through his own "reality lens". You just deduct points from the Irish & ABs & add points to the Boks & the English. Simple really
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