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Boks to make at least 4 changes to starting lineout (no Hougie...)

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
11 Nov 2014, 23:26
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11 Nov 2014, 23:26#1
Lambie set to start at 10 1136  48

Pat Lambie kicks the match-winning penalty at Ellis Park

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer is set to make at least four changes to his starting XV for the big clash against England at Twickenham, reports JON CARDINELLI in London.

Last week, Meyer said that Pat Lambie would receive a start at some point on the four-Test tour to Europe. Many believed that Lambie would replace Handré Pollard in the fixtures against Italy and Wales, but it’s now emerged that Lambie is likely to front England.

Cobus Reinach is also set to replace Francois Hougaard at No 9. Hougaard had a shocker against Ireland in Dublin, and that performance will cost him his place in the XV. Reinach and Lambie ran with the starting side during the field session in London on Tuesday afternoon.

Another significant change on the cards is at hooker, with Adriaan Strauss promoted ahead of Bismarck du Plessis. JP Pietersen is also expected to start on the right wing, and ran with the starting side on Tuesday.

Lock Eben Etzebeth (flu) and Marcell Coetzee (hamstring) took no part in the session, but should be ready for the match this Saturday. If Coetzee doesn’t recover from his ailment, Schalk Burger will start at openside flank and Nizaam Carr will be included on the bench.

Coenie Oosthuizen spent much of the session running with the starting side. Jannie du Plessis pulled up with what appeared to be a buttock strain. If the injury is deemed serious enough to rule Du Plessis out, then Oosthuizen will start at tighthead.

The match-day 23 will be announced on Wednesday afternoon.

Probable Bok XV – 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jan Serfontein, 12 Jean de Villiers (c), 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Pat Lambie, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Teboho Mohoje, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Victor Matfield, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Beast Mtawarira.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
11 Nov 2014, 23:32
#2
11 Nov 2014, 23:32#2
I doubt Hougie will even make the bench given how poor he was. He is really clumsy at the base of rucks against Northern Hemisphere teams. 
Lambie starting is a surprise, but then he probably does have a better kicking game than Pollard at this stage. Plus he obviously has experience combining with Reinach at the Sharks. 
No change with the Loose forwards? Surely Schalk would be a better option has he has impact at the rucks. Oupa was no where last week at the rucks. Marcell Coetzee will need to play more as a fetcher than a carrier. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Nov 2014, 23:49
#3
11 Nov 2014, 23:49#3
Well if the changes are Reinach, Lambie, Coenie .....lawd help us. JP was an obvious change....but we are going with the halfback pair that was mediocre in the S15 semi? To me Pollard has done the business. And Coenie....let's hope he finds his French form 
This is looming as a huge test for a number of players.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Nov 2014, 23:50
#4
11 Nov 2014, 23:50#4
 Dropping Pollard would once again confirm what a useless coach Meyer is.... .but its par
3K
3ku1Pro2,580 posts
12 Nov 2014, 04:43
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12 Nov 2014, 04:43#5

 Reinach is your best half back option potentially. Saying they had a bad game in the S15 semi so what, everyone has bad games. Lambie has been excellent coming off the bench, I rate him superior to Pollard at his stage of his career. SA need to stop picking players, based on their potential (or past performances) . And start picking players who are the best in their position currently. That is Lambie IMO.


1. Tendai 2. Strauss 3. Coenie 4. Estebeth 5. Matfeild (Old man should retire, but Uncle Meyer well continue to pick him) 6. Coetzee 7. Mohoje 8. Vermulen 9. Reinach 10. Lambie 11. Habana 12. Serfointain 13. JDV 14. JP Peterson 15. Le Roux

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Nov 2014, 06:56
#6
12 Nov 2014, 06:56#6
 This is disappointing - the center pairing  was never really working and I am still hoping there would be a change there.   I also think that the halfback pair change was just rotation.   Pollard had a hard time and may need a break - he will likely be on the bench in any event.   
Mozart is as per normal talking absolute tripe as to that pairing.   The only two players who showed something in the semi - and he goes for them.   
After a bad start Jannie was doing well in scrumming last week,  but during Super 15 and tests this year he varied between average and dismal.   His game outside of scrumming also showed some immprovment in the tackling  department after a dismal year throughout Super 15 and the test series.  Maybe a change will be for the better.
If the team is as indicated in the article, the players I worry most about is -
*   Matfield - he folds too easily in Tight 5 play; *   Burger - who was dismal last week coming from the bench;*   Pietersen - who  has a serious speed deficiency - especially for the wing; and *   Habana who was on vacation in Dublin on Saturday and did squat in that test. 
All four are reputation players from the 2007 WC and all four has shown precious little this year in their respective positions.  
The other worrying factor is the center pairing - playing two number 12's as a pairing - players with a similar kind of game - is not working out.      
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
12 Nov 2014, 08:08
#7
12 Nov 2014, 08:08#7

 Although it isn't the "dumbest idea" I suggested it could be a lot worse.


The only real issue I have is the continual selection of Mohoje, and I fear this confirms that he is a quota selection, although I hope I am wrong.

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
12 Nov 2014, 08:09
#8
12 Nov 2014, 08:09#8

Watch what happens to our scrum if Coenie is our tight head prop.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Nov 2014, 09:22
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12 Nov 2014, 09:22#9
I guess if we want to look at our options before the WC it won't be the worst thing in the world to have Lambie & Reinach start. That should show us if Lambie is an impact player or can run a game from the start. Pollard did little wrong on Saturday, even if he wasn't influential.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Nov 2014, 09:36
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12 Nov 2014, 09:36#10
 
Agreed.

Lambie deserves a start and so does Reinach.

I was hoping Kriel and Julian would gain Meyer's favour.

Coenie is a disaster waiting to happen.


BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
12 Nov 2014, 09:53
#11
12 Nov 2014, 09:53#11
I don't mind the changes, but is this the game to be experimenting? England are going to be bloody difficult to beat, regardless of which team we choose, and now we are ringing the changes in very important positions. 
I would have tried to keep the continuity and rather experiment against a weaker team. I think the poor performers got a wake up call last weekend, and would probably have put in a much better show this weekend. 
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
12 Nov 2014, 10:03
#12
12 Nov 2014, 10:03#12

Bluebok, the only real experiment here is Coenie. 


Reinach and Lambie deserves a shot

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Nov 2014, 10:16
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12 Nov 2014, 10:16#13
 
He's been exposed so many times already ... both at tighthead and Loosehead ... what he's still doing in the mix nobody knows

I tell you, with this continued stupidity it becomes increasingly difficult for me to support Meyer and his foolish selections.

I don't know how you guys do it.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Nov 2014, 12:48
#14
12 Nov 2014, 12:48#14
I have heard that both Lambie and Reinach passed the "slippery greasy ball test". It made the selections easy
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