15 Willie le Roux, 14 Jesse Kriel, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Kwagga Smith, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Ox Nche.
Subs: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn
Boks vs England Team
Glad to see Jantjies dropped, he had his chance and failed in both. He has been hopelessly out of form all season for the stormers. Maybe too much loyalty. Rassie and Niena will need to start kicking some stones over next year and find some form players and not rely to much on the group for too long or we'll end up getting knocked out of the quarters again.
Still can't believe no Marx or Kitshoff. I don't get this nonsense of emptying the tank. A rugby player is meant to last for 80 minutes, if not longer.
Saw some analysis of Bongi, Trevor and Ox all flagging around the 30th minute and not getting into position to defend fast enough, that is what led to the Scotland try.
But apparently we need those window dressing numbers for the ANC.
I would rather let them come on the last 30 min or even 10 and let Kitshoff and Marx run riot for the entire game
Ja, I'm not sure why Kriel is on the wing, Nkosi had a few blips in the champtionship but that is just because he hardly had any games under his belt and the currie cup doesn't count as our teams have been severely exposed against the irish teams.
I agree on Reinach not being the fastest around the ruck, but if you look at the irish 9, he never hung around the ruck, so quick to get the ball away from the ruck, quick in and out with very accurate short passes to the forwards that led to their try.
Need to see better tempo and get our big forwar ds over the line
Pretty much the same team as last week.
Why are they persisting with Jessy Kriel?
Maybe they see him as the backup outside centre to AM and want to give a run and keep him in the systems. He does not have the attacking prowess for a wing.
Kriel did things against Scotland that Nkosi can't do. He was a nuisance in the air, he was strong at the breakdown, securing the ruck that led up to the first try with a massive clean-out. He was never a centre to begin with, and should never be a centre again; his instincts and skills are of an outside back. Nkosi had a very brief spell in 2019 where he was playing well, but his base line is poor. Kriel was also better defensively. This wasn't something I expected to be saying, as I questioned the decision to play him on the wing, but it worked.
The front rows? Only Marx is fit enough to play more than 50 minutes. He is actually playing better than he did at any other point under José. The errors that cost him his place in the team are gone, and he is playing to a very high standard. The others are patchy performers who don't seem to be able last longer than a half. Kitshoff is playing better than Ox for now, but he was pretty poor most of the season. Some concerning downward trajectories.
Reinach is good enough getting to the breakdown, and has been the best Bok 9 this season. He has been the most accurate with the boot and, unbelievably, his passing has been as solid as I could reasonably expect. He is miles ahead of Jantjies and well ahead of Faf.
Pollard at 10 would be expected to be the logical choice, but he has not played well at all this season. This is probably the most disappointing aspect of the Boks right now, as he was only just starting to show an ability to command a game before he got sucked into the mediocrity of the José game. He has been outclassed pretty much by every opposing 10. I'd have slotted him in at 12 and have Jantjies at 10. That would improve the midfield, and give us the option to play off our 10 and 12, with more varied kicking options. And much more intelligent attacking play, with solid defence.
I'd have gone Frans at 15, but he is on the bench, so I can't argue too much with that.
Wiese needs to start. There's no reason to Kolisi at 6; Kwagga at 6 with Wiese at 7 massively increases our potency.
Nkosi is passive and lazy. His positional play is actually very poor. Kriel went looking for work and made an impact. In key phases where the Boks beat the Scots, Kriel was often a key contributor. Nkosi will never give you that. At most he can jink occasionally past a defender when the shuffle ball reaches him. Nothing more. Being aggressive in the air alone gives Kriel an edge as that's the life blood of our game.
Yellow belly? That's rich coming from you. I back myself up, you squirm and scurry around avoiding having to actually man up. You're a chihuahua, making a lot of noise, but when the moment comes to show what you are worth, you bottle it. Each and every time without fail.
Now Nkosi is one of the best wings in the game. Never mind his poor defence and errors. Where has he been in the big games? Where are those big moments? Far and few between. He was a stop gap until Kolbe came back, but now Josè found something better. Clearly "the best coach ever" doesn't agree with you. If course, you being the blaggard that you are didn't stop to think about that.
Lets face facts - after three years the Kindergarten Imbecile has learned nothing from what happened since Erasmus became Director of Rugby. The concept of usage of players for specific purposes has gone over his head totally - but so did everything else on rugby issues.
The idea is that the tight 5 has to ensure that the opposition gets poor balls from the word go and that is what happened in 2019 and is still happening at present. The reason why Marx is used as bench player is that he adds massively to the strength of the Springboks facing the second string bench players of the opposing teams and that is when Marx is at the top of the order when it counts.
Problem is the KI has proven zero in all his total garbage been backed up by facts - the idiot would not recognize facts if it hits him in the face.
That was feeble Lügnerin.
- Tight 5 must give poor ball from the word go.
- Marx is only good because he is better than second stringers on the opposing bench and shouldn't start.
- I don't provide facts, but the absence of any facts from you is a sure sign that you are factually correct.
Happy with the side although I would probably have had Wiese starting at 7. The tight 5 plus Vermuelen give the side considerable grunt so perhaps we can afford Kwagga?
Org you can't play two guys at 6 - "There's no reason to Kolisi at 6; Kwagga at 6 with Wiese at 7 massively increases our potency". What is the loon on about????
Sitzsack, what on earth are you going on about?
