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Bosch delivering on what was asked

Started by Denny20 REPLIES832 VIEWS· 27 Sept 2017, 12:53
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 12:53
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27 Sept 2017, 12:53#1
When Springbok coach Allister Coetzee left Curwin Bosch out of his squad after the return from Argentina he said he wanted the Sharks pivot to grow in the Currie Cup. So far he is delivering what was asked of him.

Playing in different conditions is a big part of the learning process of a young player and, if you will excuse the hoary attempt at pun, at Kings Park against the Blue Bulls last weekend he took to it like a duck to water. Bosch produced an excellent showing of game management and control as he made sure the home side capitalised on their forward ascendancy in wet conditions.

The Bulls tried hard but were pinned in their own half for most of the game and it was mainly thanks to Bosch’s increasingly more educated boot that they never got a look in. It should please Coetzee, for while Handre Pollard, who played part of the Durban game for the Bulls, is the current back-up to Elton Jantjies, it is Bosch who is the next cab off the rank.

Bosch says that his time with the Boks, both in camp in the early stages of the Rugby Championship and in the training camps held during Super Rugby, has helped him enormously and has enabled him to do what Coetzee wanted – return to the Sharks as a better player with a clear understanding of what is required of him.

“The coaches told me I had to work on my defence and game management but they are happy with where I am at the moment,” said the former Port Elizabeth schoolboy.

“My cover tackling has not been a problem but when you are standing in the flyhalf channel and have 110 kilogram forwards running at you, you have to make a different kind of tackle. Every day I am working with the Sharks coaches on front-on hits, making sure I get into position to launch the tackle.”

It was his defensive issues that prompted the Sharks coaches to initially select Bosch as a fullback, and there is still some uncertainty over where he is going to settle. If Jantjies or Pollard nail down the flyhalf position, he could by the 2019 World Cup be an interesting fullback option for the Boks.

However, for Bosch himself the issue appears to becoming more settled.

“It is still early days for me, but I am feeling increasingly comfortable in the No 10 jersey. I think the decision is naturally being made for me as the season unfolds,” he said.

Bosch said he is not too fazed about his omission from the Bok squad and said it was all about him gathering experience, which he feels he has profited from. He knows he is young and has a long career ahead of him.

“When I came to the Sharks I had goals in mind. I expect things of myself, so having achieved what I have so far is minimal compared to where I want to go ultimately. This year has been about stepping stones to becoming a better player so that I can achieve those goals.”

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
27 Sept 2017, 13:26
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27 Sept 2017, 13:26#2
In a way it's a very big blessing in disguise to be omitted from the present squad and the fiasco it represents...Bosch looks the part of promise...the less he falls under AC's influence the better....however he will move into the ranks later and one is right is that experience gained in Currie Cup is good...the sad thing will he be another victim of Saffa Coaching techniques...later on. We seem to destroy players of talent in the early years...there's a long record of this
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2017, 13:45
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27 Sept 2017, 13:45#3
 Debby
Bosch was not good enough in the Under 20WC - but has been doing well for the Sharks.   He is a thinking player and experience will sharpen him up.
The guy who did well at the said WC and was playing at no 12 was Willemse.   However,, he always was a flyhalf and is now making waves for the Stormers/WP.  He is more physical than Bosch and is certainly a better ball carrier.
The Stormers rate him very high as a flyhalf and they have released Robert du Preez for transfer  with  Willemse and Jean-Luc du Plessis aa their future top flyhalfs,   Watch out for that guy - I think he is the future real deal.   
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 13:47
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27 Sept 2017, 13:47#4
 Watch out for that guy
Which guy?
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2017, 13:53
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27 Sept 2017, 13:53#5
Ou Maaik, Debby is a bit slow on the uptake. You'll have to point him in the right direction.

LMAO!
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2017, 15:05
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27 Sept 2017, 15:05#6
Come on now Rooi. That is harsh on Debby. She has at least happily taken note that South Africa has taken a bold step by appointing their first ever foreigner as head coach when they appointed Otis Gibson.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2017, 15:14
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27 Sept 2017, 15:14#7
You don't expect a cricket noob to have heard of Bob Woolmer, do you?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2017, 15:34
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27 Sept 2017, 15:34#8
Nope. LOL.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Sept 2017, 15:36
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27 Sept 2017, 15:36#9
He's having a tearful little vloermoer in the Other Sports section if you want a laugh.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Sept 2017, 15:49
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27 Sept 2017, 15:49#10
Don't keep us in suspense Tokkie....is it Willemse or Du Preez on your bedroom ceiling?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 15:59
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27 Sept 2017, 15:59#11
 Well he's had this to say....
"...with  Willemse and Jean-Luc du Plessis aa their future top flyhalfs,   Watch out for that guy - I think he is the future real deal."
I don't want to stifle his hopes but we've heard this all before.....remember Tim Swiel, in earlier days..Gaffie and Derrick Hougaardt?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Sept 2017, 16:00
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27 Sept 2017, 16:00#12
 Remember Goosen.....the hunter that would be a flyhalf.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 16:06
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27 Sept 2017, 16:06#13
 I'm sure there's a few more.....
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Sept 2017, 16:08
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27 Sept 2017, 16:08#14
Lambie and of late Maakniks.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2017, 16:13
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27 Sept 2017, 16:13#15
 There we go.
History repeats itself, fools never learn.....they become smitten with flashy videos put together by some marketing expert.
We know from experience that all that razzmatazz goes out the window when real rugby is played....has there been anyone more flashy than Quade Cooper in the last decade?.....how's he going!?
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
30 Sept 2017, 06:27
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30 Sept 2017, 06:27#16
Well "Maakniks" Mozart (aka Mothballs) Curwin certainly showed his class last night in Durban in terrible conditions....huge thunderstorm and ref stopped the game due to lightning for 20 minutes before continuing.

Bosch is a huge find...
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Sept 2017, 06:45
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30 Sept 2017, 06:45#17
 Somny Bill was more flashy than Q, but that only extend your point Denny.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
30 Sept 2017, 07:08
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30 Sept 2017, 07:08#18
 
... not forgetting Morne and Frans Steyn, are we?

They should be top of the list of hopefuls who came and went without leaving a mark.


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generaltitPro3,164 posts
30 Sept 2017, 08:04
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30 Sept 2017, 08:04#19
Mothballs always had it in for talented creative flyhalves like Patrick Lambie and Boshoff and even Goosen...whilst at the same time promoting the likes of robotic players like Morne Steyn and Francois Steyn. Mozart likes older conventional and orthodox rugby and is a sentamentalist and longs for the days of Jannie Engelbrecht and Jan Boland Coetzee (probably remembers "Rus en Vrede" and "Kanonkop"too) and old Province rugby. Whilst this vintage is good it does not compare to Bordeaux which is now too expensive to drink anyway.

Mothballs does not realise that the problem with his ex country's rugby (which he left in 1972...probably a draft dodger then and now a coffin dodger lol) is NOT the INDIVIDUAL Player/s themselves but the coaching, politics and enviroment they are cultivated in.

I went to a school that cultivated 2 winning WC flyhalves...Joel Stransky and Butch James...also Peter Grant who never made this accolade was wasted in the Cape and ended up in Oz...not to mention Keith Oxlee in the very old days of Springbok rugby.

They called my old school "the flyhalf factory".

SA produces the best and finest flyhalves in the world but we butcher and destroy them by the dozens...one can only wonder where PL, Goosen, Swiel and co. would have been if they grew up in Christchurch, Wellington or Auckland...
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Sept 2017, 08:25
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30 Sept 2017, 08:25#20
It's all very well liking creative flyhalves but I wouldn't call Lambie and Boshoff creative.....not by any stretch of the imagination. And just before you go ballistic I don't think Frans or Morne were creative either. Stransky mmmm don't know, watched him at the 1995 RWC for the first time.....solid and conventional but again not one I'd describe as creative. Don't forget Strans ky operated behind a safe pack of forwards and had a great scrummie to work off.
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
30 Sept 2017, 08:45
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30 Sept 2017, 08:45#21
Patrick Lambie was a super creative kid when at Michaelhouse...he stood out amongst the talent of his day...he was doing well at the Sharks when Fred Michalak was there too, sort of a mentor...as I said nothing wrong with the individuals but the institutions after school...nothing wrong with some school coaches too...there have been some very good ones in the past...don't know how it is at present though...maybe too they are conforming and complying with this dreadful and disgusting government.
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