Brain's Talk about Evolution
Sorry- I tried to put this in the Beeno Section- but it went into the general category.
The Insert YouTube Video also appears to not be working.
Thanks Sharkbokkie. I will try and find some time to see what these clowns are saying. Always remember God has said the :Fool has said in his heart there is no God"
I also trust you are now remembering Christ was not crucified on Christmas day!!
Sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well at least ou Sharkbokkie has a great Avatar. Trump has just got his tax cuts and the demonrats are being investigated. Hahahahahahahaha so ,much winning in one year!!! Hang these satanic Globalists for treason!
I actually know a bit about this stuff. Lots of problems for evolution. I mean its based on randomness but randomness doesn't exist in mathematics and mathematics is how it was all put together! Huge problem. If there was a big bang it was supposed to be started by hydrogen but how can you complete the periodic table from that? You couldn't even get half way! Carbon dating doesn't work either. There's no such thing as sedimentary eras either. In some parts of the world the layers are backwards!! Did they exist in retrograde time? Damn!! How about the primordial soup? The conditions it would require are destroyed by UV light but yet need UV light too. Information science is another huge huge problem for evolution. Ernst Haeckel was a German professor who faked embryo charts to convert Germans to evolution and was found out and fired by his university but his drawings are still in charts today! Lots of exposed lies are still in the textbooks. Whales with leg bones apparently, well vestigial leg bones, but they only exist in one gender of whales and have muscles etc that are used for making more whales! Its funny the last thing I'll mention, Darwin got the idea for evolution in south america when consulting a medium. He wasn't actually the first to come up with the idea either. The originator backed Darwin to promote it. When all is said and done you go through history and no atheist has advanced science. The best scientists who develop understanding have believed in a creator of some kind. I could list hundreds of facts for why evolution doesn't work. Well, macro evolution. The only probable evolution that exists is called micro evolution that I like to call micro adaptation, I.e., each after its own KIND!
@Eric, from what I understand the periodic table starts with hydrogen.
Gravity creates nuclear fusion by converting cooling hydrogen into helium. This process then continues until all the elements are created from the most basic to the most advanced elements.
Not everything adds up, but that might just be that our science is not advanced enough to understand everything, or an afterlife created the initial big bang.
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/07/05/why-did-the-universe-start-off-with-hydrogen-helium-and-not-much-else/
Sharkbokkie you have to very ignorant or a huge liar to believe in evolution. A universe creating itslef from nothing. Bwahahahahhaha then you have matter begining to live.
Then you have the human DNA written in a 4 letter alphabet over three billion letters long all in the right order. What completely kills this stupid hoax is that information is encoded in DNA vast volumes of INFORMATION.
The ONLY rational explanation is that GOD created the Heavens and the Earth. Science has now prove GOD whether they like it or not. Hahahahahahahahahaha atheists are such gullible clowns!
Its great to E ric the Reed is on the right track.
Mate, let's put it this way, there is nothing in the universe to support macro evolution. Nothing. You can believe what you want really, but it boils down to this. You can believe in macro evolution or that this universe exists. The two of them are incompatible. Its a pipe dream and those in the know understand this, they know its a lie. The lie is portrayed in a way to appeal to the lay people that have never studied any branch of science. All emotion, no substance. And the cherry on the cake. Those humanists want you dead! Evolutionary scientists are anti-human. The stuff they believe is really sickening. The talk of becoming gods and killing human beings. Ever heard of H+ (humanity plus). They say they are going to create an singularity. United nations is going along with this too. In the biodiversity treaty it was written that the status of hu!an beings must be reduced to that of rocks. Nice. Human population reduced to virtually nothing. They aren't even shy about this stuff. The everyday Joe thinks its team Evo and all their worries are washed away, fat chance of that. Study real science and evolution falls apart. The science behind the theories. It doesn't take a lot to blow holes in this ballony. Every single key part of these theories (the don't agree among each other) is a big fat lie.
I believe more conclusive evidence exists for the Big bang theory. Not 100% conclusive for sure, but a more logically sound argument than creationism- which relies more on faith instead of cause/effect proof.
How the big bang started is a paradox, and therefore leaves room for possible divine intervention. The paradox is a chicken and egg situation because each life cycle of the universe would have to have one initial starting point- unless time and space do not exist. However, it is also possible that our science and maths is just not good enough to logically explain the paradox without any divine intervention,
Being God is only one possibility for the nature of a creator, if such a creator or creators exist.
It could just as easily be a machine running countless simulations. Yes, you could just be a tiny number inside a huge cold machine that doesn't care about you in the slightest. Hurts the ego huh? Much easier to believe that we are special, unique, loved and meaningful.
Proving creationism does not by default vindicate Christianity, sorry.
Evolution and creationism are not mutually exclusive either. There's no reason why a creator could not set up the parameters for life and use natural selection as a means of spawning species/diversity.
Good posts by all! Can this be a decent discussion on this topic?
Here, I'll try something.
Mate, let's put it this way, there is nothing in the universe to support macro evolution.
Mate, let's put it this way, there is nothing in the universe to support creationism.
Creationists demand that evolution be proven but the only proof they offer to support their argument of creationism via dogmatic beliefs is a text written ages ago.
A text which they themselves will tell you can only be taken literally sometimes and should be take figuratively on other occasions. And none of them agree on where this dividing line is.
What they will do is tell you that when something in the Bible is over the top, unfair, cruel, hypocritical, nonsensical or blatantly false... Then we should take it figuratively.
Nice simple way to get around every inconsistency in the text they rely on.
Let me quote some Beeno from this thread...
"Fool has said in his heart there is no God"
"Sharkbokkie you have to very ignorant or a huge liar"
"What completely kills this stupid hoax"
"The ONLY rational explanation is that GOD created the Heavens and the Earth"
"Hahahahahahahahahaha atheists are such gullible clowns"
"Hang these satanic Globalists for treason!"
Some examples of why a) many Christians aren't respected and b) why any type of rational conversation on the topic is not possible.
And I'll quickly demonstrate the double standard...
Beeno, you have to be either a complete moron or an uneducated inbred redneck to believe in God.
Before you respond let me remind you of...
"Sharkbokkie you have to very ignorant or a huge liar"
If this is the Christian example then I'd rather be an atheist.
Plump the bible sasy why foolish people are atheists. Its not actaully because of beeno who who seem to imagine is so important.
The reason plump is that men prefer the darkness to the light because thier deeds are evil.
John 3.19 : This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
No more excuses Plump. Always remember when you stand before the judgment throne of Christ as all must do it wont help to say Beeno was your problem.
Beeno giving poor Plump some sound advice.
Bye the way if you are ever unfortunate enough to live through the Great Tribulation Plump (The most awful time in mans history - "if those days were not shortened ALL would perish) you would be of the opinion that these globalist Satanist are worth hanging. As its stands how many deaths in Europe and USA and Middle East are they not already accountable for. Pure evil Plump! Unfortunately you are still in the dark and cant see it and have no clue whatsoever.
Beeno
Yes you are religious. I get that. Fine. I'll even defend your right to choose your faith.
The line gets drawn at the moment your belief becomes anything other than a personal state shared with other like minded people.
When you start preaching to me from on high and using fear as a method of discussion then you invariably lose me.
Most of us here have had ample exposure to religion. Some accept it and some don't.
But since this is not a discussion about faith let's return to the topic of evolution.
How much exposure have you had to it.
Eric was talking all about how he accepts micro-evolution but prefers to call it adaptation. Yet he reckons macro evolution is total nonsense.
In essence he us saying that evolution is only possible to a point. Or rather that he is willing to accept only what can be demonstrated over a short period.
He does however call macro evolution a load of rubbish.
So, my question to both of you is this.
If the theory of evolution is such nonsense then how has it been able to make such accurate predictions so consistently? More simply, how were biologists able to use this "nonsense" to make predictions that would otherwise be impossible to make?
You know that there have been countless occasions where prior to digging up fossils it was possible to predict various facets of their anatomy.
The best anti-evolutionists seem able to do is find isolated cases of poor science and use that to try and rubbish a theory that is so well corroborated that there is not an objective court in the world that'd object to it.
It's literally the equivalent is saying that because some channels on your TV are snowy there can be no possibility of HD anywhere in the world.
Thought I'd stick my nose in here and wish you all a Merry Christmas. I'm in Port Alfred with my girlfriend, her best friend and husband and I must say the festive vibe around here is amazing. What a place!! Saw my ass skiing on the Kowie river earlier. Already burnt to a crisp. Anyway ... the Tequila is calling so I got to go.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
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What a pity poor Plump missed the huge amount of material I posted debunking evolution.
Plump the dumbass atheists started of so confidently but were reduced to a whimper but the time I had overwhelmed them with facts.
Macro evolution doesn't exist. End of story.
You never answered my question Beeno :)
A typical piece of evolutionary evidence!
The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological hoax in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of a previously unknown early human.
In 1912, the amateur archaeologist Charles Dawson claimed that he had discovered the "missing link" between ape and man (look no further than warped DUD!!). After finding a section of a human-like skull in Pleistocene gravel beds near Piltdown, East Sussex, Dawson contacted Arthur Smith Woodward, Keeper of Geology at the Natural History Museum. Dawson and Smith Woodward discovered more bones and artifacts at the site, which they connected to the same individual. These included a jawbone, more skull fragments, a set of teeth, and primitive tools.
Smith Woodward reconstructed the skull fragments and hypothesised that they belonged to a human ancestor from 500,000 years ago(The real mystery is why only 500,000 years. He could have said 5 billiuon yeras and these dopes who were his audience would have sucked it all up). The discovery was announced at a Geological Society meeting and was given the Latin nameEoanthropus dawsoni ("Dawson's dawn-man"). The questionable significance of the assemblage remained the subject of considerable controversy until it was conclusively exposed in 1953 as a forgery. It was found to have consisted of the altered mandible and some teeth of an orangutan deliberately combined with the cranium of a fully developed, though small-brained, modern human.
The Piltdown hoax is prominent for two reasons: the attention it generated around the subject of human evolution, and the length of time, 41 years, that elapsed from its alleged initial discovery to its definitive exposure as a composite forgery.
One lie after another. You have to be a first rate loon to believe the evolution BS. Hahahahahhahahahahahahaha
Evolution has to be the daftest theory ever shoved down the throats of gullible halfwits.
It didnt take this guy long to be able to shred t and show what utter lunacy evolution. Just remebr that God created each after ts own KIND.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5OA0qR5Sp8
Hahahahhahahahaha its so funny that some clowns believe evolution. Crash goes Dork ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6ElA0--JNg
"The best anti-evolutionists seem able to do is find isolated cases of poor science and use that to try and rubbish a theory that is so well corroborated that there is not an objective court in the world that'd object to it."
And you still haven't answered my question.


