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Bryce Lawrence debacle has forced a rethink

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Feb 2012, 10:52
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03 Feb 2012, 10:52#1
  Johan Ackermann (Gallo Images) Johannesburg - The Lions’ squad members will play against each other on Friday to gain match fitness and get to grips with the laws that referees will be focusing on during the competition.

And assistant Johan Ackermann said the breakdowns would be strictly umpired following Kiwi referee Bryce Lawrence’s controversial handling of the breakdowns in the Springboks’ defeat to Australia in last year’s Rugby World Cup quarter-final.

"That was apparently the final straw and referees were told to improve the umpiring of the breakdowns," Ackermann said.

Assistant referees at Super Rugby level would also be called upon to monitor the offside lines at the ruck and maul and infringements close to the touchline.

The coach said the offside line would receive greater attention from referees during this Super Rugby competition.

This year could be a deciding one for the future of the scrums as teams have been warned to straighten up this area of the game.

It is understood that referees have been told to reduce the amounts of restarts by 20% or radical changes could be introduced which would change this facet of the game     In case ou rickity is still hovering around he may want to read the following and correct the errors of his ways - ditto anyone who thinks BL should have been nz ref of the year!!!!   Cape Town - South African referees manager André Watson says he was surprised by New Zealand referee Bryce Lawrence's performance in the World Cup quarter-final.


Speaking to 567 Cape Talk Radio on Tuesday afternoon, Watson admitted Lawrence's handling of the breakdown area in the clash between the Springboks and the Wallabies baffled him.

The defending champion Springboks crashed out of the tournament with a narrow 11-9 defeat, despite enjoying three-quarters of possession.

"His opening game (at the World Cup) was outstanding. I had no problem with his appointment," said Watson. (How strange BL simply goe shaywire in that match!!!)

"But he allowed a free-for-all." (Only it was NOT for all it was for OZ) This meant ace Australian fetcher, David Pocock, was able to have a field day, constantly disrupting the Springboks' flow. (Yet some nutters think we cant score tries)

"It's not what you would expect from a referee of his calibre - he didn't referee the breakdown the way he was supposed to. He just didn't step in."

Despite the IRB announcing that no visible action will be taken against Lawrence, Watson believes Lawrence will be hauled over the coals for his performance behind the scenes.

"He will be punished, but that's up to the IRB. I do not believe we will see him in any Rugby World Cup (ever) again," said Watson.

Watson also said that the SA referees association will aim to take action against Lawrence. "It's done and dusted now, but we will be taking action. We want to make sure it doesn't happen again   Anyone clear on what action has been taken against nz ref of the year - I mean besides being honoured in the way he was by nz?
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UsernamePro1,098 posts
03 Feb 2012, 10:57
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03 Feb 2012, 10:57#2

He didn't just fail to step in regarding the breakdown but failed in many other areas. Wiping away three tries, ignoring Austraila's constant high tackles, failing to red Pocock after his take-out of Brussow off the ball. he list goes on.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Feb 2012, 11:37
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03 Feb 2012, 11:37#3

Of course you are righ Card but I have not heard of any real action other than NZRU honouring BL as being their best ref!

Has this all now been done and dusted and life goes on and more of same in future. That is what I fear - more of same. Watson said there would be action taken. Can't see it.

Actually given Watson usual support of his fellow refs this was a very strong stance. Has it now simply died.

Never in my entire rugby life have I felt so annoyed as I was by this BL affair.

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greenfeverNewbie7 posts
03 Feb 2012, 12:49
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03 Feb 2012, 12:49#4

yep,ALL BL fault.especially when Du Preez had the tryline at his mercy and stuffed up !! That would have won us the game and this constant whinging about the loss would be naught.

we were good enough but not clever enough.The story of Bok rugby for a while now.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
04 Feb 2012, 15:45
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04 Feb 2012, 15:45#5

How so? The Boks COMPLETELY dominated Australia. Not even in the two record defeats over Australia did we dominate like this. I posted a long post on how our backs actually tore them apart and how their deadly trio were shut out completely. You cite Du Preez's attempted try, but fail to acknowledge the THREE tries that were disallowed! That's incredible. The fact of the matter is that without Bryce, Australia could never have beaten the Boks. That was the deciding factor. and I will continue to bring it up because this has been happening for many years. We have had many tests lost simply because the refs are against us .There was an email that was exposed where NZ and AUs refs were talking about how they were going to "sort those Jarpies out". If this gets swept under the carpet it will keep happening again. In a World Cup QF this should never happen. I thought that was the most blatantly corrupt game I had ever seen... then came the final! Very poor form IRB.

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Bryce Lawrence Rookie50 posts
05 Feb 2012, 01:16
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05 Feb 2012, 01:16#6

Wow saw my name and had to comment. Nice spin you guys are putting on your failures. Can't wait to come to South Africa and ref a few more games. Saw your sevens team play yesterday but as usual could only manage 5th place - even outshone by the Kenyan team that beat Australia twice but thats only those useless arsestralians anyway. Make sure you bring your A game to NZ this year as you know we are the side to beat and I hope your new coach is'nt made a scapegoat for your upcoming losses like the last one was. So lets keep it clean (no eye gouging) or crying about referees just because you were COMPLETELY out played and have a good season. I'm picking Waikato to win the Super15 but there is always hope i guess for a South African team to at least make the semis. Good luck anyway yarpies is that a derogoratory name let me know will you and don't forget to add a few sheep jokes for good measure. All Blacks rule.

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
05 Feb 2012, 03:24
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05 Feb 2012, 03:24#7

Hou gaan dit Brycey. I was at one of your coaching seminars the other day; your coaching leaflet has worked wonders!

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Bryce Lawrence Rookie50 posts
05 Feb 2012, 08:11
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05 Feb 2012, 08:11#8

Haha thats kinda cute but correct me if i'm wrong if the arsestralians did'nt beat you more than once last year in the lead up to the World Cup- multiple indicators that your team is being affected by the obesity epidemic i think. Choosing a team of geriatrics did'nt help either and then theres that delusion about being better than the All Blacks. Once you sort all that and maybe get a decent coach ( i see Arsestralia has a NZ coach but good luck on finding a Kiwi coach that can understand your gibberish) - maybe a few Kenyans in your team might add a bit of speed as well. Hope my advice has been of help and good luck.

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caetusRookie54 posts
05 Feb 2012, 23:08
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05 Feb 2012, 23:08#9

LOL At last some NZ humour here to add spice to the board. Welcome Bryce, it could get very interesting.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Feb 2012, 10:23
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06 Feb 2012, 10:23#10

Brilliant analysis Card!!! Only trouble is that this is far to complex for ou BL to comprehend.

Who are waikaito that bl thinks will win the super 15 ? Should his bet should not be the loaded ab crusaders?

Anyhow good to have a nz nutter turning up here wanting to learn the game!

 

 

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Bryce Lawrence Rookie50 posts
06 Feb 2012, 12:48
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06 Feb 2012, 12:48#11

Sounds like someone is in  need of an education on the finer points of rugby my friends . Let me give you some inside information and tips on where to put your money this year. You can bet your house on the Waikato Chiefs or my name's not Bryce Lawrence. Keep it quiet though okay. Winning 36 nil on their first game with their B team was just a taster but if you want to back some losers go right ahead.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
07 Feb 2012, 04:45
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07 Feb 2012, 04:45#12

Aaahhh BL...you're a tonic! Even you would realise that anyone putting his house on the Chiefs is an award winning funny!

As I say, keep em coming.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Feb 2012, 11:05
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07 Feb 2012, 11:05#13

Was that the Chiefs the bulle clobbered by 50 points in a super 14 final. Hahhahahahahaha ou BL is a tonic indeed!

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