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Started by Saffolk 8 REPLIES305 VIEWS· 15 Jan 2014, 23:46
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Jan 2014, 23:46
#1
15 Jan 2014, 23:46#1

The following players will be 30 and over:


Spies 30

Vermaak 30

Flip 30

Beast 30

Louw 30

Strauss 30


Alberts 31

Bismark 31

Kirchner 31

Morne 31

Pienaar 31


Fourie 32

Habana 32

Schalk 32

Bekker 32


Aplon 33

du Preez 33

Jannie 33


Jean 34

Steenkamp 34


CJ v/d Linde 35

Juan Smith 35


Bakkies 36


Matfield 38


Its not pretty reading is it?





MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jan 2014, 23:59
#2
15 Jan 2014, 23:59#2
Looking good. But perhaps we should limit the Boks to seven players over 35. That way there will be enough unskilled, high energy types to do the grunt work.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2014, 08:30
#3
16 Jan 2014, 08:30#3

Saffex


It has been a historic fact that no team has won two WC's in succession.   The main reason always was the same - the winning team did near to zero as to player renewal and tried to use the same players in the succeeding WC.


South Africa did the same in 2011 and the result is evident - no chance of success at all.   However, what is really disturbing is that Meyer -


*    is insisting to use players who failed in the 2011 WC as a key part of his present squad; and, what IS EVEN MORE DISTURBING


*    is desperately trying to get back players from the 2007 campaign for the 2015 WC.


Meyer will basically select anything from that era who can still move to play at present and he will glorify their acxhievvements in matches - when anybody can see that their performances have been average to poor.


It is an acknowledged fact that rugby players are at their prime performances stage when they are in the age group 25 to 30 years.   A minority of players mature before reaching the said age group and there are a small number of players over 30 years of age that can still participate.


There are two issues relating to the over 30 players, namely -


*   in De Villiers' own words - you have to train twice as hard to maintain the levels you used to maintain; and


*   players over 30 are more injury prone than their younger counter-parts and takes longer to recover from injury.


We cannot try and go into the WC with that lot you are mentioning in your posting.   Only a small minority - mostly backline p[layers - would potentially make the grade.  I would say that based on present form we can count on only the following to be potential candidates for 2015:-


Bismarck, Strauss, De Villiers and Habana.


The rest are just not of good enough standard at present  to keep playing them in their declining rugby years.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Jan 2014, 10:07
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16 Jan 2014, 10:07#4
 *   players over 30 are more injury prone than their younger counter-parts and takes longer to recover from injury.

Uhmmm I think that you are missing the boat here. How many of our youngsters are not often out with injuries? Goosen, Jantjies, Coenie, Lambie, Kolbe recently, etc
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2014, 12:33
#5
16 Jan 2014, 12:33#5

 Ceradyne


Why do you always come up with KAK when your betters are discussing issues?   Go and study the injury lists of last years super 15 and you would find that the over 28's who gets injured are more than twice the number  of injuries to younger players.   Alos have a look at the geriatrics playing for the NH Clubs and you may yet see the light.


Due to the battering they received over the years older players get injured more frequently as they get older and they take longer to overcome injuries - proven FACT.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Jan 2014, 12:37
#6
16 Jan 2014, 12:37#6
Yep of that list, I would only want to see Beast, Bismark, Strauss and Habana in the squad  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Jan 2014, 12:51
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16 Jan 2014, 12:51#7
clevermike

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January 16, 2014, 10:33:27

 Ceradyne


Why do you always come up with KAK when your betters are discussing issues?   Go and study the injury lists of last years super 15 and you would find that the over 28's who gets injured are more than twice the number  of injuries to younger players.   Alos have a look at the geriatrics playing for the NH Clubs and you may yet see the light.


Due to the battering they received over the years older players get injured more frequently as they get older and they take longer to overcome injuries - proven FACT.

 
Hey ou Tourette's, could you get me that list, or a link to it? I just mentioned the names that I could remember.


HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
16 Jan 2014, 13:10
#8
16 Jan 2014, 13:10#8
 what's the rush boys, we're still enjoying 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2014, 21:56
#9
16 Jan 2014, 21:56#9
insofar as South Africa is concerned they should not have a GAMES VILLAGE for the games - they should have a RETIREMENT RETREAT.      
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