SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Feb 2014, 19:47#2
My little man is a devoted Spurs fan
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Feb 2014, 06:50#3
There is a great vibe at Spurs....he is obviously a smart young fellow. Man can, but doesn't have to live by rugby alone!
11 Feb 2014, 08:12#4
Moz, I pretty much love all sport, but soccer does not make the cut. All the diving and faking, and the ref's looking the other way just give soccer no credibility. When a world cup or big championship is won or lost because of a blatant dive and the resulting free kick or penalty, the sport just can't be taken seriously. There is nothing more nauseating than these players who's legs suddenly fold under them when another player happens to be near them.
Sad, because it is a great game.
11 Feb 2014, 11:09#5
Bluebok, the "diving" is an exaggerated excuse. The amount of diving is no difference from forwards "getting injured" and then jumps of and play on with renewed energy after a breather and a few drops of water. How many world cups or big championships were won because of a "blatant dive and resulting free kick"? The odds on scoring a goal from a free kick is very very low in any case. The "diving" is an excuse for "I do not understand the dynamics of the game and/or I do not know and/or understand the rules of the game".
As for legs folding under them, try and run at full speed and have your ankle tapped and see your legs folding under you. There are more ankle injuries and leg breaks in football than in rugby purely because of the difference in the way the tackles happen. Have a look at these pics for examples:
11 Feb 2014, 12:43#7
JW, I used to think that it was the crappiest game under the sun. My main gripe was that there could be almost two hours of game and then you still end up with a 0-0 score at the end. It is a long story on how I started watching it, but as soon as I understood the laws and the dynamics of the game, it became a whole new ball game. I have found that I am surprised every time, when the half time whistle goes, how quick that 45+ minutes flew by. It interesting how you can spot how managers manage to change the game by one or two substitutions and changes in the field positions. You can switch from a defending approach/formation to an attacking approach/formation, an d vise versa, in no time.
11 Feb 2014, 13:22#8
Cera we are gonna have to agree to disagree here. There is plenty of diving in soccer, and purely for the reward of a penalty or free kick . The reason, it is very hard to score in open play, and the odds of scoring a goal from a free kick that is in a good field position are better than in structured play. The odds of a penalty resulting in a goal are massively in the kickers favour. Also, the ensuing yellow and red cards given to the tackler limit his ability to play effectively because another run near an opposing player with the ball could see him getting his marching orders.
If you are trying to equate a forward stalling by waiting around for a medic trying to catch his breath, to a player taking a dive in the penalty area, then you and I have very different opinions on fair play.
If you are gonna have a go at me, know your facts, I played plenty of soccer at school level and thereafter and understand the game just fine. I used to be a big soccer supporter but just got tired of the WWE part of the game. Just cos you are too blinded by lord knows what, does not make the diving any less of a reality.
11 Feb 2014, 13:54#9
I am not having a go at you. I am just not that convinced that football is "overshadowed" by diving like so many would like to believe. I am not blinded by anything. To me it makes no difference whether or not you watch football, played it or whatever. There are millions of people the world over who would disagree about the "diving". You just need to look at the attendance figures compared to rugby attendance figures. Having said that, rugby is the first priority for me in any case. I just enjoy my game of football as well.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Feb 2014, 14:02#10
Very true Moz......he loves playing rugby and cricket but is passionate about watching his beloved Spurs
AGAgPleezDeddy
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11 Feb 2014, 14:05#11
How old's your boy, saffex?
It's good that he's into so many sports, fingers crossed we'll see him on the big stage one day.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Feb 2014, 14:47#13
Congrats Saffex on having a son who is a sportsman.
I am proud of my own son but he was never into sports like his dear old dad, lol. Sports is a great thing to have in common.
SASaffolk
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11 Feb 2014, 14:56#14
Yes Just, you cant beat prowling the touchline or boundary with fellow parents/friends watching your boys in action.......I have two boys, my eldest is completely different and shares my other love, which is music.......he is in a band and has followed that path.........was a handy enough cricketer but music has always been his passion......I get just as much of a kick watching him rock the world away on stage.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Feb 2014, 17:07#15
I used to go fishing with my father. We would sit for hours down at Strandfontein fishing for kob. Sometimes hours would go by without saying a word, but everything that needed to be said was said. You have no secrets among the generations when they enjoy sport together.
AGAgPleezDeddy
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11 Feb 2014, 21:50#16
That's good to hear Saffex, I hope the injury wasn't anything too serious. I agree with Moz, nothing like getting up early on a Sunday with my dad taking me to Football or just generally sitting and watching sports on the TV.
And that's a shame Just_win, I'm sure you have other things in common though!
CAcanrugby
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11 Feb 2014, 22:23#17
Haha
I'm an Everton fan, Moz.
I will disagree with you on one thing. There was no "well crafted win over Everton". Everton fell asleep for about 2 seconds and allowed the Spurs to have their ONLY shot on target, which lost us a well deserved point . A harsh lesson to learn with a harsh result.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Feb 2014, 23:13#18
APD, his shoulder is good now thanks........like father like son.......I suffered the same fate at a similar age and I recall my grandfather sleeping with a makeshift sling every night.........family trait, but not a good one!
MOMozart
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12 Feb 2014, 00:19#19
Gosh Can you are the first Everton fan I have ever come across....hahaha.
CAcanrugby
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12 Feb 2014, 00:36#20
Haha. We're a rare bunch.
I've always sort of followed soccer/football. Especially the Premier League. But about six years ago I was in london and saw an Everton - Chelsea game at Stamford Bridge. Ever since then I've been a Toffee fan.
It's not easy.
I'm Waiting for a Russian, or Middle Eastern billionaire Oil tycoon to buy them up...
Flashdakota
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12 Feb 2014, 00:52#21
Well i'll jump on the bandwagon whilst we are at it...
I know its nothing to really shout about, but I've been a Villa (and Real Madrid) fan since i was a kid.
When i was in Grade 1, we used to collect Premier League soccer cards. My first pack I bought coincidentally had 6 Villa players in it.
Ever since then, I've been a supporter (through thick and thin) and follow them.
Been a very disappointing past 6 years though.
Miss the days of Dion Dublin, Dwight York, Miloševic and co...
CAcanrugby
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12 Feb 2014, 01:57#23
Hahaha - I actually don't mind Chelski. I love them for loaning us lukaku, and I love Mourihno. That guy is priceless!
When I was in london back in 2007 I was visiting a friend who got the tickets off another chelsea fan. It was all very confusing to me. They couldn't sell tickets to just anyone and you had to be some sort of member with something??? Much different then over in NA where you can sell tickets to anyone...
Anyway, I payed a lot for that ticket, but it was worth it. Great experience!!
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Feb 2014, 06:01#24
I have to admit I was a Chelsea fan during the Mourihno years, lol He had character, gave his team the arrogant confidence they needed to b eat MU. I loved it
sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
12 Feb 2014, 06:08#25
does this belong in the cricket section?
AGAgPleezDeddy
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12 Feb 2014, 18:05#26
Good to hear he's better now Saffex, wish your other son all the best in his musical endeavors too!
And Can, I'm a Liverpool fan, haha! As big as the rivalry is, it's good to see the two big Merseyside challenging the London and Manchester clubs again, hopefully a return to the good old days.
And flash, Villa are not looking in great shape recently but I have feeling all will come right especially as you have some very good young players. Lambert's talented I'm sure you he can turn it around.
Moz, do you see Sherwood being around for the long haul?
CAcanrugby
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12 Feb 2014, 18:58#27
Oh no... A scouser is in here! ?
Ya. It is nice watching Everton beat ManU at Old Trafford, and then draw the Gooners at the Emirates. Although the last derby wasn't very nice to us.
One day Everton will get it right and show everyone that you don't need a Billionaire Oil tycoon to own your team... One day.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Feb 2014, 19:18#28
APD your guess is as good as mine on Sherwood. The guys is refreshingly honest and seems to know what he is about. But he lacks the big club gravitas, so if things go wrong, he may be more vulnerable than most.
AGAgPleezDeddy
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12 Feb 2014, 19:25#29
Haha, can! You're not in the 'Kenwright out' camp then? I did enjoy the derby But you have a very bright future as Martinez is an excellent manager!
And agreed Moz, he's very attacking which is certainly something in the Spurs DNA.
CAcanrugby
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CAcanrugbyClub Pro640 posts
12 Feb 2014, 20:02#30
I don't mind Kenwright. He's actually not the one with the funds. He just owns the majority of the shares (26%). His estimated worth is around 30 million pounds.
The man that supposedly has the funds is Robert Earl. He owns 23% and his estimated worth is in the hundreds of millions. He's just a stingy little bastard. Him and Kenwright are good friends.
Kenwright gets a lot of flack that he doesn't deserve.
