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Can somebody please explain to me

Started by clevermike10 REPLIES228 VIEWS· 21 Jul 2013, 12:24
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2013, 12:24
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21 Jul 2013, 12:24#1
what the situation is when a prop scrums inwards and push into the hooker and when a prop does not bind and push with his hand on the ground. I thought both are actually to be penalised. I noticed the referee tonight penalized the Cheetahs at least three times when the Brumbies props were doing just that It was so bad that Pretorius actually spoke to the line judge about that one and it was less noticeable in the second half - apparently someone gave Jackson a talk at half time to remind him of the rule. Problem is that by then the damage has already been done. I suspect there will be some repercussions about refereeing of games again and that Jackson will be put in the cooler too. No more Super 15 refereeing for him as well.
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 Jul 2013, 14:39
#2
21 Jul 2013, 14:39#2

 Mike it's funny how the commentators said Jacko was doing a fine job but as usual you know better!

So who exactly gave him a talk at half time or did you just dream it as I suspect?

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
21 Jul 2013, 15:09
#3
21 Jul 2013, 15:09#3

Of course the Aussie commentators are going to say that.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2013, 15:09
#4
21 Jul 2013, 15:09#4
moodaa Obviously the Aussie commentators would praise him as doing a fine job - but you have not answered the questions I put about scrumming - so I assume you are backing Jackson purely because he is a New Zealand referee. I am sure he would have been spoken to by Strauss and Drotske pointing out he was making a mess of the scrum refereeing and even line judges could have pointed out to him that he was wrong.
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 Jul 2013, 15:50
#5
21 Jul 2013, 15:50#5

 So as I thought Mike, you've completely fabricated this "talk" Jacko has had at half time! Apparently has now become "I'm sure". What's next?......"I heard he might have"?

Stick to facts, not your imagination. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2013, 15:57
#6
21 Jul 2013, 15:57#6
moodaa Lets leave out the assumptions and concentrate on the factual issue of scrumming and specifically the questions I asked. As far as I am concerned I watched those scrums twice and came to the conclusion that Jackson was wrong in interpretation of the scrum laws in ALL THE CASES where he awarded penalties for scrumming to the Brumbies. . Please try and prove me wrong on those two issues I mentioned.
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 Jul 2013, 16:20
#7
21 Jul 2013, 16:20#7

 Exactly.......let's leave out all your assumptions and leave it to the ref shall we? Someone who has played at a high level, was a lot closer to the action and knows a hell of a lot more than you do Sad Mike!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2013, 17:58
#8
21 Jul 2013, 17:58#8
Avoiding the truth - quack answer at best.
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
21 Jul 2013, 18:05
#9
21 Jul 2013, 18:05#9

 Not avoiding, I prefer not to guess like you and pretend that you have some sort of inside word on a situation you are not privvy to!

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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
21 Jul 2013, 18:53
#10
21 Jul 2013, 18:53#10

i thought there were a lot of scrum penalties that could have gone either way, jacksons imterpretation while questionable to some was no more or less then any of the interpetations weve seen all year from every ref.

IMO there was only one scrum peanlty that i saw where the cheetahs were unlucky to be penalized for but nothing to throw arms in the about.

i thought jackson had an OK game TBH, cheetahs were their own worst enemy.

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SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
21 Jul 2013, 19:17
#11
21 Jul 2013, 19:17#11

Cause and effect What caused him to scrum up? Someone walking around pile driving into his ribs? Why put a hand on the ground? To keep scrum from collapsing maybe?

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