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Captain Calamity Shreuder - Named as Sharks Captain...

Started by sharkbok12 REPLIES818 VIEWS· 16 Jan 2019, 16:31
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
16 Jan 2019, 16:31
#1
16 Jan 2019, 16:31#1
A curry cup player and flat track bully, that so far has not shown he has the ability for higher levels.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jan 2019, 16:41
#2
16 Jan 2019, 16:41#2
Captain Confusion.....unbelievable. Write off the Sharks. I suppose having fathered the Deysel twins du Preez can't be the sharpest pencil in the box.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2019, 17:33
#3
16 Jan 2019, 17:33#3

SB

When last did you see Schreuder play at 9.   He did very well for the Sharks in recent matches,  I am not a all surprised by his captaincy appointment - he was the Shark captain last year when they beat WP in the CC final.      

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jan 2019, 18:18
#4
16 Jan 2019, 18:18#4
Please ignore my posts as you promised Tokkie....there's a nice plank.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
16 Jan 2019, 19:21
#5
16 Jan 2019, 19:21#5

"Curry Cup" - I did watch the final last year as well

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Jan 2019, 19:40
#6
16 Jan 2019, 19:40#6
Call me pedantic if you like, and it is not meant to be a personal attack on you, SB, because many people make this mistake. It as actually the Currie Cup. Another interesting fact is that the original intentions of Sir Donald Currie, who donated the cup, was not for the cup to be handed to the winner of some kind of competition. There was indeed a competition but the first winners of the Currie Cup was not even the winners of any tournament. The particular tournament was won by WP but the cup was handed to Griquas who lost to the Lions by three points to nil. They received the Currie Cup because Sir Donald’s instructions to the management of the Lions squad, were clear. “Give it to the team who gives you the best game on the tour”. Griquas then gave the trophy to the Rugby board and it then became the trophy for the national competition, replacing the one that WP won in the first competition.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Jan 2019, 22:54
#7
16 Jan 2019, 22:54#7

Cera

Sounds like things meant something in those days.

Now there is just so much of everything that very little means much.



DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Jan 2019, 23:14
#8
16 Jan 2019, 23:14#8

Yes, one big fckup!

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
17 Jan 2019, 02:45
#9
17 Jan 2019, 02:45#9

The Currie Cup has been rebranded to Curry Cup, as it is no longer the competition it once was.


BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
17 Jan 2019, 09:21
#10
17 Jan 2019, 09:21#10
Currie Cup - The oldest rugby tournament in the world which once had a proud history of fielding the South African rugby elite. In the modern era it has become a second tier testing ground for young up coming player as well as top tier players returning from injury to find their feet. Towards the end of the tournament, after all the hard grind work has been carried out by the up and coming players throughout the season, those players are pushed aside, so that the top tier returning international players can enjoy the glory of the semi finals and finals. A tournament that is a shell of its former self. 
That about sums up my view on the Currie Cup.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
17 Jan 2019, 12:05
#11
17 Jan 2019, 12:05#11
“Posted by: sharkbok (8338 posts) Jan 17, 2019, 02:45 The Currie Cup has been rebranded to Curry Cup, as it is no longer the competition it once was.” Hahaha. True. Point taken.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jan 2019, 13:43
#12
17 Jan 2019, 13:43#12

SB and Draad

Read the following from News24 as further background on the issue:-

“Sharks coach Robert du Preez has confirmed that the decision to select Louis Schreuder as captain for Super Rugby 2019 came from the players themselves.

The appointment of the 28-year-old as skipper came as somewhat of a surprise on Wednesday, but speaking to media in Durban, Du Preez revealed that it was his leadership group that had made the call.

Schreuder had led the Sharks to an impressive 17-12 victory over Western Province at Newlands last year in the Currie Cup final, enhancing his credentials as a strong leader in this group. 

"As we all know he did a fantastic job during the Currie Cup," Du Preez explained.

"He is a well-respected and very experienced guy. We have a very strong leadership group. There are 12 of them. You've got the likes of Philip (Van der Walt), Jeremy (Ward), Dan (Du Preez), Lukhanyo (Am), Lwazi (Mvovo), Beast (Mtawarira) ... there are some really strong leaders in there.

"The captain was basically selected by the leadership group at the end of the day."

With no Super Rugby break in 2019, Du Preez acknowledged that he would be rotating players a lot more regularly than he did in 2018 when the Sharks were eliminated at the quarter-final stage. 

"Any one of those guys in the leadership group can step in and be captain on the day, so if we are rotating players and Louis has to be on the bench then we are blessed to have that strong leadership group," he said.

If I reflect on last year, we didn't rotate nearly as much as we should have.

"We've got such a strong squad and we mustn't be scared to rotate players after two or three games. I think you'll see quite a bit of that and then the guys must perform."

Jean-Luc du Preez aside, the Sharks have a fully fit group of players preparing for their tournament opener against the Sunwolves in Tokyo on February 16. 

There is an air of familiarity about the squad as they enter their third Super Rugby campaign under Du Preez, with most of the players having been together in Durban throughout that period. 

There is an addition to the coaching staff in the form of the highly-rated David Williams, who arrives as the new attack coach replacing Dick Muir. 

Williams has coached in England with Bath and London Irish, the Kobe Steelers in Japan and he was also the attack coach for the Kings during their impressive Super Rugby campaign in 2016. 

"He has brought a lot of detail to our play and a lot of structure. He allows the players to play what they see, but with cues," Du Preez explained.

"I think that's the important thing, that these guys will know exactly what their opportunities look like.

"We saw some flashes of brilliance, but we didn't have that ongoing consistency on that. We created so many line breaks, but we couldn't finish them and that's where David comes in.

"The makings are all there for a great season."

With the New Zealand sides obviously favoured to be the ones to beat in 2019, Du Preez believes the Sharks also have what it takes to go the distance. 

"I think with the talent that we have, we'd be running out of excuses. We've got to do it this year," he said.”

I think it is better to have a strong leadership group and to allow that group to be involved in the appointment of the captain.   We know Beast is not interested in the captaincy and the act that the leadership group regard as the best captain from their group is eident.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Jan 2019, 01:44
#13
18 Jan 2019, 01:44#13
I think it's better when the coach, with a good understanding of player preferences chooses the captain that can execute his game plan......these popularity contests are more suited to choosing primary school monitors.
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