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Cardinelli gives a realistic view of our status

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2017, 19:15
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14 Aug 2017, 19:15#1
A second-place finish for the Springboks in the Rugby Championship would signify progress – but only in the context of a nightmare two-year period, writes JON CARDINELLI. Heyneke Meyer’s Boks lost seven of their eight Tests against the All Blacks. Between 2012 and 2015, the then Bok coach lamented the gap that existed between the two Test nations. Remember those days? Remember when the Boks used to win four matches and finish second in the Rugby Championship (in 2013 and 2014)? Remember how angry the South African rugby community was in the wake of those tournaments? Second place, we said, would never be good enough. A two-point defeat to arguably the best rugby team of all time in a World Cup semi-final? Still not good enough. The Boks, we said, do not settle for second place. South African rugby, we said, should hold itself to a higher standard. Things needed to change. And so they did, unfortunately for the worse. Nearly two years down the line, and many South African supporters would give anything for a two-point defeat to the All Blacks. Indeed, after a 2016 season that witnessed a 41-13 loss in New Zealand and then a record 57-15 defeat at home, it would be fair to say that a couple of narrow defeats to the All Blacks and a second-place finish in the 2017 Rugby Championship could be viewed as a sign of progress. That result viewed over a longer timeline, though, would just be more of the same. The Boks haven’t won the southern hemisphere’s premier tournament since 2009. Over the past eight years, their struggles away from home and particularly against the All Blacks – whom they’ve beaten only three times in New Zealand in the professional era – have impacted on their ability to claim the trophy. Allister Coetzee’s Boks will have more modest ambitions in 2017, though. After suffering historic losses to Ireland, Argentina and Italy in 2016, and after those record defeats to the All Blacks, they will be looking to win back some respect and finish where many South African teams have finished before: in second place. That outcome would signify progress in the context of the past two years. Coetzee’s Boks would have to win four games (two more than they did in 2016). They would have to beat Argentina in Argentina for the first time, and in doing so, register the side’s first Test win on foreign soil since 2015. They would also have to beat the Wallabies in Australia. Only one Bok team, namely the side of 2013, has managed to do that since 2009. Meyer told a New Zealand newspaper recently that the Boks still trail the All Blacks by some distance. This much is clear when one considers the results of the South African teams in the 2017 Super Rugby tournament. The results against Kiwi teams show why there is no reason to hope for a Bok win on New Zealand soil this year, or against the All Blacks in South Africa. Eighteen games were played between South African and New Zealand teams in the 2017 Super Rugby tournament. Fifteen matches were lost by the South African teams, including the final between the Lions and Crusaders at Ellis Park. The Crusaders became the first team in the history of the tournament to traverse the Indian Ocean and win a Super Rugby final. That feat signified another first for New Zealand rugby, and another blow for the South African rugby psyche. Can the Boks win in Australia in this year’s Rugby Championship? Rugby in that part of the world is as low as its ever been in the professional era. This season, the South African teams have combined for 10 wins in 15 Super Rugby matches against Aussie teams, five of those in Australia. It wouldn’t surprise to see a Bok side winning there this year. One would also expect the Boks to beat the Pumas both home and away. The Jaguares, who fielded a host of international stars over the course of their Super Rugby campaign, lost six out of nine games against South African opposition. In Argentina, however, the South African teams combined for two wins and two losses. The Boks looked a better side in the three-Test series against France. Their forwards dominated and their defence looked both hungry and organised. On the basis of those performances, South Africa should expect an improved showing from the Boks in the Rugby Championship. However, one needs to remember that France were hardly title contenders in the 2017 Six Nations and that they came to South Africa after a long season in Europe. The likes of Argentina, Australia and New Zealand will demand more of the Boks over the next few months. One of the biggest problems that Coetzee and company will face is the dearth of experience in the current side. Duane Vermeulen and Warren Whiteley are unlikely to feature in the campaign due to injuries. Only three players in the 34-man squad have more than 30 Test caps. As many as 17 of the 34 have 10 or fewer caps, and three of those have yet to play a match for the Boks. Bear in mind that that is what the Boks will start with. The situation will worsen if a few of the more experienced players in the squad break down with injuries over the course of the tournament. Coetzee will hope that the more seasoned players remain fit over the next two weeks. The Boks need to win both matches against Argentina if they are to have any chance of improving on last year’s log finish (third). A win in Australia would be a terrific result in the context of the past eight years, as well as a boost in the context of the 2017 campaign. If the Boks tick that box, then four wins and possibly a second-place finish will be there for the taking.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
15 Aug 2017, 08:24
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15 Aug 2017, 08:24#2
We did look better this year in Super Rugby, even against NZ opposition. The Boks also looked good against the French, but the reality is that the French are a very erratic side historically, and as a benchmark, they are a very poor yardstick in terms of actual progress. We've all been saying it, but it is the Rugby Champs that will give us a clear picture of where the Boks actually are. Second overall seems like a realistic expectation. 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
15 Aug 2017, 08:51
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15 Aug 2017, 08:51#3
 
It's not the lack of experience that will hamper the Boks this year but rather the lack of talent.

We have at least 20 players in the squad of 34 that do not belong there.



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Aug 2017, 13:31
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15 Aug 2017, 13:31#4
We are performing much as we always have at Super level.....we never had heaps of talent. The problem is we are betting on the wrong talent.
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AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
15 Aug 2017, 14:43
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15 Aug 2017, 14:43#5
 Beating the Argies and Wallabies home and away, and showing some degree of improvement against the ABs would be at least a step in the right direction
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
15 Aug 2017, 15:46
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15 Aug 2017, 15:46#6
 Given some degree of talent there are coaches who've taken teams to punch above their weight......one that comes to name is the coach from the Kings, the other one is Ackerman. 
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