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Carleys Cock-up

Started by moolaa16 REPLIES2,511 VIEWS· 10 Sept 2024, 04:10
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
10 Sept 2024, 04:10
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10 Sept 2024, 04:10#1
Carley penalised Sevu Reece after the ABs charged a kick down as he handled it in front of the player who’d effected the charge down. I’ve tried researching this and it appears that after a charge down, as there is no knock-on it is “play on”. So it was general play and Reece couldn’t be off side! Thoughts??
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
10 Sept 2024, 05:45
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10 Sept 2024, 05:45#2

Tea & sympathy mate.

Looked like someone had word in ref ''s ear ?

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
10 Sept 2024, 05:53
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10 Sept 2024, 05:53#3
Yeah, someone else pointed this out to me so thought I’d get some opinions. Never seen this exact scenario before!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Sept 2024, 06:22
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10 Sept 2024, 06:22#4

Reece was penalized not for being off-sside - but for obstructing a Springbok player from competing for the ball.    That was a routine penalty whenever it happened in any test.      

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Sept 2024, 06:48
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10 Sept 2024, 06:48#5
Obviously that's wrong. Please watch the replay. Reece doesn't obstruct a single player during the entire sequence. Unless of course, picking up the ball when you are on side, and allowed to collect it, qualifies as obstruction. He was called for being offside. And he wasn't offside. That ref is moron. I said so during the game. But it did look like it was the assisting refs that made the call.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Sept 2024, 07:04
#6
10 Sept 2024, 07:04#6

Be it as it amy the crossing of the refs arms in awarding the penalty indicated obstruction and watch it again.      

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Sept 2024, 07:25
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10 Sept 2024, 07:25#7

More rubbish, Mike...Here is the gesture the ref makes...at no point does he cross his arms.

Instead, the ref holds his left arm up indicating a penalty, and then draws a line with his right hand,  indicating that Reece was beyond that line and thus offside.

The commentator himself says "The call came from the assistant referee, Reece it was, that was offside."

Looks to me like this what the ref is doing...

"When a rugby union referee signals offside, they swing their arm in an arc along the offside line while keeping their shoulders parallel to the touch line and their arm hanging straight down."

Comments, Mike?


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moolaaPro2,380 posts
10 Sept 2024, 08:41
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10 Sept 2024, 08:41#8
What universe do you live in Mike? There’s no-one near Reece so why would you make shit up? Did you also dream up the Bok try tally you posted on another blog? How can we believe ANYTHING you say??
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Sept 2024, 09:28
#9
10 Sept 2024, 09:28#9
He won't respond to this, Moola.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
10 Sept 2024, 09:37
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10 Sept 2024, 09:37#10

I'll try ................ he normally takes my sage advice.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
10 Sept 2024, 11:41
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10 Sept 2024, 11:41#11
"How can we believe ANYTHING you say??"
Anyone who believes anything ou Maaik says would have to be as stupid as ou Maaik . . . which I'm not sure is even possible . . . but safe to say, you can disregard anything ou Maaik ever says on any topic.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Sept 2024, 15:28
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10 Sept 2024, 15:28#12

He won’t answer. In another string I posted Rasmus’ comments about lineout calling and Nortje in particular, where he confirms that Nortje was in effect the lineout captain. Clever is adamant that no such role exists and won’t respond to that either.

When he is found out he ignores the evidence. But don’t be surprised if he repeats his assertion a few days later. Deliberate dishonesty, stupidity or dementia…,who knows what causes this kind of behavior .

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
10 Sept 2024, 17:51
#13
10 Sept 2024, 17:51#13

In school the hooker calls the lineouts, but in Pro rugby it appears the number 5 usually calls the lineouts as the middle jumper. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Sept 2024, 20:23
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10 Sept 2024, 20:23#14
My son tells me that pro sides have access to the recordings of the refs mic during games so are able to pick up on all the line out calls meaning they have to change them every week Which is probably why we see a prop or 9 come tell the hooker the call these days to avoid having to change them each week.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Sept 2024, 21:01
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10 Sept 2024, 21:01#15

From the coach’s mouth:

‘ It was just overthrown by the hooker and sometimes they didn’t even go up so that’s a timing issue,” the Bok boss explained.

“We have to understand that a guy like Ruan Nortje is early in his career and it was only his second game against New Zealand.

“Last week, we had Pieter-Steph help him call the lineout but this week it was solely on him, so he will have learnt a lot and the All Blacks did their homework and contested well.”

……..

For the Boks the number 5 lock is the lineout captain.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Sept 2024, 21:44
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10 Sept 2024, 21:44#16
Yeah the 5 usually makes the line out calls - so he will tell the prop or 9 who will go tell the hooker the call so as not to shout it out for the opposition to hear
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Sept 2024, 05:47
#17
11 Sept 2024, 05:47#17
Bump... Mike...?
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