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Chances of a Springboks upset over All Blacks rated 'slim to zero'; NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Sept 2016, 01:11
#1
12 Sept 2016, 01:11#1

The Springboks are being written off as a disaster in waiting as they prepare for Saturday's test in Christchurch.

Sport 24 labelled the South African side as being "very close to chaos" following the defeat to the Wallabies, while describing the All Blacks as "champagne quality".

Chief sports writer Rob Houwing opined: "The Springboks are currently flying, if that is even the right word to employ, like a jumbo jet on one engine, with a loose set of flaps and wheels jammed at the halfway point of deployment. In other words, at considerable risk of a catastrophic crash."

He wrote it would be "galling to South Africans" that former Springbok Errol Tobias believed "the spine of the Pumas team may currently be stronger than the Springbok one".

"If South Africa can somehow win in Christchurch under present circumstances, it might go down as one of their greatest upset triumphs of all time," Houwing wrote.

"Confusion reigns supreme ... these Boks look devoid of structure, clear-cut strategy, cutting edge and composure, and also just beginning to flirt with a potential post-isolation record low for tangible individual class and aura in the ranks, quite frankly."

The Sunday Independent rated the Springboks' chances as "slim to zero". Thesarugbymag.co.za writer Jon Cardinelli believed "the Boks will lose to the All Blacks in Christchurch. The only question is by how much."

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Sept 2016, 01:14
#2
12 Sept 2016, 01:14#2
Yeah, we've heard this before but the ABs never take the Boks lightly. Let's hope the Boks show us something at least, last week they did ok for the first half.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
12 Sept 2016, 01:16
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12 Sept 2016, 01:16#3
The Boks have no chance of winning, we are no longer in the top3. 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
12 Sept 2016, 07:19
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12 Sept 2016, 07:19#4
The Boks chances of beating the All Blacks are roughly equivalent to the chances of a stripper em erging from a Chiefs Mad Monday party without a black eye.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
12 Sept 2016, 07:40
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12 Sept 2016, 07:40#5
 Nah I would never write off the Boks or any of the other top 5 teams .Its dumb and disrespectful plus it annoys the rugby gods .
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
12 Sept 2016, 08:01
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12 Sept 2016, 08:01#6
 Nah I would never write off the Boks or any of the other top 5 teams .Its dumb and disrespectful plus it annoys the rugby gods .
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
12 Sept 2016, 08:10
#7
12 Sept 2016, 08:10#7
My only hope is that it's not a cricket score. 
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
12 Sept 2016, 08:32
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12 Sept 2016, 08:32#8
Boks will lose. I reckon the AB's are going to win by 30+ points. The Boks are too disorganised, there is zero cohesion, our defense is a joke, and our discipline is a massive issue. Non e of these things bode well for the Boks this coming weekend. For me though there are two slight shining lights, firstly, with enough losses and a poor enough debut season, the powers that be might get rid of Coetzee. Even political correctness will eventually give in to an infuriated rugby public and empty stadiums. The second glimmer of hope, in my opinion anyway, is that most of our issues come down to an incompetent coaching staff and a total lack of leadership. Meaning, I think our player pool isn't as bad as everyone is making it out to be. We are not New Zealand, but we have enough talent to at least make a competitive side. With solid selections and a proper plan, the boks should be able to compete with England for the world no.2 spot. NZ, is a bridge too far, but we'd still make them work for a win...in my fantasy scenario. 
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
12 Sept 2016, 08:43
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12 Sept 2016, 08:43#9
TESTS ON SOUTH AFRICAN SOIL, AND ABROAD INVOLVING THIS JOKE FOR THAT MATTER, NEED TO BE BOYCOTTED. IT'S THE ONLY WAY.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Sept 2016, 09:58
#10
12 Sept 2016, 09:58#10
 Haaaaaaaahahahahahaaa!!
Hard to believe that anyone would even suggest a win for the Goats.
72 - 3 in favour of the All Blacks.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Sept 2016, 10:07
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12 Sept 2016, 10:07#11
 Wee abs could win by 50. Lets see who he selects out of his po orly selected squad.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Sept 2016, 10:10
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12 Sept 2016, 10:10#12
 Hey Lara ... nice to see you popping in from time to time.
Missed ya!!
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
12 Sept 2016, 13:34
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12 Sept 2016, 13:34#13
 My only hope is that it's not a cricket score.

Will the ABs dare the move? Rugby needs partners to be played and it means that you cant sink another team.

A non business mind AB team will run 100+ points over the decaying SA rugby that should no longer be.

Problem is that, in the doing, NZ put themselves at a risk of losing a business partner.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Sept 2016, 14:08
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12 Sept 2016, 14:08#14
 NZ can rest their top players and field a team of second stringers and they should still wrap it up before half time. And I am being optimistic about the halftime mark as well.
BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
12 Sept 2016, 14:55
#15
12 Sept 2016, 14:55#15
 It is only disrespectful to the team, players and management if they are there on MERIT.

Obviously this is not the case. I do pity the players and would encourage them to take up contracts outside of South Africa.


There is no way in hell they will win. This is a sad day as I have never ever previously 

anticipated at a ' Bok' Test without ANY hope of them producing a result. The fact that we are 

going to get shafted only saddens me because the team still carries the Springbok name

and emblem. 


1891-2015 RIP our beloved Springboks

2016- Long live the cANCer Proteas



JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Sept 2016, 15:18
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12 Sept 2016, 15:18#16
 Boks will give it their best shot. 
That famous Mark Twain quote may apply:
"The reports of my dea th are greatly exaggerated."
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
12 Sept 2016, 15:21
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12 Sept 2016, 15:21#17
BokBF

Status: Baby Bok
Posts: 187 RE: Chances of a Springboks upset over All Blacks rated 'slim to zero'; NZ Herald
September 12, 2016, 14:55:59

only saddens me because the team still carries the Springbok name and emblem. 


1891-2015 RIP our beloved Springboks

2016- Long live the cANCer Proteas


 

Sadly, we have not had a true Springbok side in quite some time


Just like we have not had a true Proteas side for some time.


The quota system has done nothing but degrade both sports


BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
12 Sept 2016, 15:40
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12 Sept 2016, 15:40#18
The only ones with anything remotely positive to say about the coming NZ vs RSA game are the New Zealanders here. Thanks for the attempted encouragement you lot, but we Saffas just don't have much to shout about at the moment. Our one escape from our slowly declining country was the Springboks, but now even they are on the steady decline seen in the rest of South Africa. 
Its a sad state of affairs, but thanks none the less!   
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Sept 2016, 15:47
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12 Sept 2016, 15:47#19
 @JW. It would have been fine to quote Mark Twain had it not been for one small fact.
Mark Twain:
Died: April 21, 1910

ANC: Founded 8 January 1912.
SARU: Founded 1992. 
Mark Twain never heard of the shenanigans of the likes of SARU and the ANC.

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
12 Sept 2016, 15:51
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12 Sept 2016, 15:51#20
Cera, WTF difference does it make when the quote was made? Any dumb fark knows Mark Twain wasn't referring to SARU or the ANC with that quote, but that does not change the fact that the quote can be applied to the Bok situation! Talk about being argumentative! 
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Sept 2016, 16:14
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12 Sept 2016, 16:14#21
 Ag ou Bloubok. Wind in your fcuking neck or are you planning on being a fart for the rest of your life? Do you have no sense of humour?
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
12 Sept 2016, 17:01
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12 Sept 2016, 17:01#22
 Its just no fun when you chaps are all so down .Anyways everyone lifts when playing the ABs .Cheers !
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
12 Sept 2016, 20:05
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12 Sept 2016, 20:05#23
 The comparison between Barca and ABs is misleading.

Barca is one of the great football teams, one that, at times, defines football. There are other great teams that also define football.

That is the difference with rugby.

Since the start of the professional era, the ABs have managed to monopolize the position of defining rugby. They are the main and only reference team.

The ABs have kept growing their players, experimenting new plays, new ways of training etc

On the other hand, SA badly managed the professional turn, mainly due to declining resources following the squandering effort by excellent men.

They failed to train players, they failed to think of ways of playing rugby. They clinged to an antiquated way that had relevancy sometimes in the past but no longer.

SA players are known to be drugs addicts, relying on boosts. It can make it punctually, for one match. It cant work when facing a string of encounters.

The ABs put a lot of thought on the way of sparing the human body during contact so that their players can endure more and longer. This gives an edge during tournaments and ensure that players are kept as fresh as possible.

SA XV rugby is obsolete and the resources to reform it, to improve it are no longer. They were consumed.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Sept 2016, 20:23
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12 Sept 2016, 20:23#24
 T, FO TROL!
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Sept 2016, 00:27
#25
13 Sept 2016, 00:27#25
 The NH sides poaching SA talent seems to have been overlooked ,it makes the hard choices the ABs made to select only Super rugby players all the more credible .Trad is right on the way the ABs manage players during and after games ,the pacing of players energy commitment seems to leave them with more in the tank come the last quarter .Just look at how rooted the Argies were at the 50 min mark with the ABs still fresh looking and eager .
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
13 Sept 2016, 00:47
#26
13 Sept 2016, 00:47#26
The Traditionalist should be called the Conspiratist- with has a serious Chip on his shoulder, along with a deep understanding of economic market place mechanisms. 
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
13 Sept 2016, 14:37
#27
13 Sept 2016, 14:37#27
"NZ can rest their top players and field a team of second stringers and they should still wrap it up before half time."

. . . and here is Justin Marshall saying exactly the same thing.
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