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Cheika: Jake is 'disingenuous'; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Mar 2014, 21:59
#1
31 Mar 2014, 21:59#1
The public baiting between Waratahs coach Michael Cheika and Sharks Director of Rugby Jake White took a nasty undertone on Monday.

They have a history of public spats and antagonistic baiting, dating back to White's stint as Brumbies coach in the 2012 and 2013 seasons.

However, the duo have taken their barbs to a new level since the table-topping Sharks' emphatic 32-10 triumph over the ambitious Waratahs in Durban at the weekend.

Cheika threw out the bait last week and White stepped into the trap when he responded after his team's demolition of the Australian franchise.

The Sharks boss thanked Cheika for "making my team talk easier" with his pre-match ranting.

When Cheika's assessment that the match had been close was put to White, he retorted: "Whatever Michael Cheika says, we believe, don't we."

Cheika responded by saying he was surprised to read the comments in the media.

"I didn't read them in detail, but it wouldn't hurt me to be criticised by someone who's disingenuous, so it doesn't hurt me," he told the Sydney Morning Herald.

"If he felt that way, he could have said it to me when he saw me before the press conference and shook my hand.

"And there's a track record there, isn't there?

"I would almost see it as a compliment to be criticised by someone like that."

White was certainly not holding back at the weekend, recalling the infamous broken door incident from the Brumbies versus Waratahs game three weeks ago.

Cheika shattered the pane of glass in the Canberra Stadium facility at the end of the match -  the Tahs' only other defeat this season.

White was asked for his take on the penalty count, which grew to 20-9 against the Waratahs and was questioned by Cheika in his post-match comments.

"I just want to see if our [the Kings Park Stadium] coaches box is still alright, because I have to get [Chief Executive John Smit] to get some insurance for it," White quipped.

"Hopefully it's not too damaged."

White would have had the last laugh though, as Waratahs centre Rob Horne was suspended for a dangerous tackle on Sharks counterpart Francois Steyn - who in turn was issued with only an off-field yellow card for his tackle on Tahs midfielder Kurtley Beale.

With Horne out, Cheika will also be concerned about the fitness of Beale, who suffered whiplash, and Israel Folau - who completed his first run on Monday since picking up a throat knock in the Waratahs' win against the Rebels.

Cheika said he was confident both would be fit to play, but would only make the call on Tuesday.

"We'll see how he pulls up from recovery and a bit of a run [on Monday]," the coach said.

"I wouldn't think he was at doubt at this stage."

The Waratahs this week heads to Newlands where they will take on the Stormers on Saturday.

The men from Cape Town have lost four games on the road in as many weeks.

However, Cheika suggested the team would go back to the basics to plot victory at Newlands on Saturday.

"Our attacking ruck was poor [against the Sharks]," he said.

"The way we play, if that's not done properly it's hard to get a flow on. Even when we carried and got go-forward, often the ball was delivered with a bit of a bobble.

"If we clean that bit up, get a little bit more consistent in that area and the game is a different set-up with a different score. We know we can do it, so it's just a matter of getting back onto it this week."

Source SMH
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Mar 2014, 22:03
#2
31 Mar 2014, 22:03#2
Public feuds between coaches, and we wonder why the players get testy during games. Coaches set the tone!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Mar 2014, 22:12
#3
31 Mar 2014, 22:12#3
Seems to me it's easy to figure out who is disingenuous.....Sharks 32...Tahs 10.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Mar 2014, 22:25
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31 Mar 2014, 22:25#4
Mozart: are you using "raw data" or statistical analysis to determine who is disingenuous? 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Apr 2014, 00:17
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01 Apr 2014, 00:17#5
You know me JW, I use what suits my  purpose 
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
01 Apr 2014, 06:04
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01 Apr 2014, 06:04#6

 I think Cheika is just calling Jake for what he is...


Jake seems to be a good coach but in terms of character fabric he seems to be lacking - walking out on a contract because he didn't get the Wallabies job is more a dummy spit than smashing a door in...


Cant wait till Shawks get on the road and we'll see how well the travel... it seems to me the same conspiracies are flying around the shawks this year as the notoriously rigged RWC 2011...


lol.







JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Apr 2014, 07:15
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01 Apr 2014, 07:15#7
 Mozart: a classic answer pure genius, lol
The question:Just_win

Status: Senior player 
Posts: 2856RE: Cheika: Jake is 'disingenuous'; Rugby 365
March 31, 2014, 20:25:52Mozart: are you using "raw data" or statistical analysis to determine who is disingenuous? 


The answer:mozart

Status: Rugby Legend 
Posts: 6268RE: Cheika: Jake is 'disingenuous'; Rugby 365
March 31, 2014, 22:17:45You know me JW, I use what suits my  purpose 



& the fair-minded kiwi simply smiled






JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Apr 2014, 07:34
#8
01 Apr 2014, 07:34#8
 Your right of course Cloudy, lol
Mozart's answer was fantastic & he has said what has been apparent for so long. It's all just fun & nothing to get too worked up about. I j ust love it, lol
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Apr 2014, 09:44
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01 Apr 2014, 09:44#9
 
Mozart argues for the sake of arguing.

What used to make for interesting reading has become an irritation.

He and Mike are the same.

Two old geezers with wet undies pretending they can still duke it out with the best ... yet find themselves gasping for breath, wheezing at every effort, with a hearty chunky cough to boot, every time they try standup from their rocking chair.

Talk about being in a state of delusion.

Cheika used his team as a weapon ... he tried to provoke a negative response from the Sharks ... knowing full well that Bismarck is explosive and usually reacts physically ... that was his game plan ... hurt Jake by having his team yellow or even red carded.

A game plan that cost his team the match.

An arsehole.




CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2014, 09:53
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01 Apr 2014, 09:53#10
 Cleancut
You nasty bugger -  and I m mostly on you side in arguments but for the Fats's, Come now I am not all that nasty - just responding to Mozart's delirium at tines.  Where is your sense of humour?  
Mind you I agree with you on this one - Cheika did n ot get what he was looking for and ended up looking silly.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Apr 2014, 10:28
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01 Apr 2014, 10:28#11
 
Mike ... I've told you before ... it's "Mr" Fats to you.

Besides, Alberts is such an awesome player that you can chalk him at 7 and he'll win the match for you and if you need him at 4, he'll win the match for you from there too..

A really special player.

You should be bowing before him in absolute adoration ... chump!!!



CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2014, 10:37
#12
01 Apr 2014, 10:37#12
 Cleancut
Alberts is good as a lock - too limited to ever be a loosie.  Fatso he is and Fatso he will remain.   
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Apr 2014, 10:37
#13
01 Apr 2014, 10:37#13
 Cleancut
Alberts is good as a lock - too limited to ever be a loosie.  Fatso he is and Fatso he will remain.   
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