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chiefs 2014 spXV champions??? o_O

Started by Monkey D Luffy3 REPLIES154 VIEWS· 27 Apr 2014, 22:11
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Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
27 Apr 2014, 22:11
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27 Apr 2014, 22:11#1

after the huge bitch slap the chiefs got from the brumbies team containing nearly a third of NZ born players in their starting XV, questions need to be asked about the chiefs abilities to win the comp away from NZ.


they have no more games away from NZ, having played their last one away from NZ match against the brumbies.

but their away from NZ record is pretty poor with draws vs the bulls and cheetahs in SA, and losses to the force and brumbies in SA.


u could always take the soft route and say that at least the chiefs walked away from those zero wins with 7pts, after all thats not exactly nothing.

buuuuuuut they are the current champs and more importantly, a NZ rugby team who represnts the NZ rugby empire.

IMO we dont do always a bridesmaid, leave that conciliation prize for others who are use to embracing mediocrity.


rennie and the chiefs need to take a good hard look at themsleves, cos in 2014 they might have to win the comp away from home, a feat i think that only the crusaders have ever done.


there have been plenty of doubts about rennies rotation policy, and while the chiefs do have a number of injuries, the rotation policy has been a part of the chiefs 2014 cycle from the very beginning.

its fair to say that it hasnt worked, and rennie should now stick to playing his best team every game.


as tough as this mid season form slump is for the chiefs, i still cant help but think they will win the spXV, albeit not as easy once did.

i have a sneaky suspicion that come finals time, chiefs might get a little lucky, they might not defend their crown in hamilton, but they still have a good chance of defending it in NZ given how strong all our teams are playing at the moment.


they had a little luck go their way in 2012 for their maiden title, stormers capitulated in the semis and lost to the sharks, which meant the chiefs got to play in hamilton for the final, instead of the less favourable and before the semi favourite outcome of match against the stormers in newlands.


2014 could be an all NZ final, still miles away of course, but i doubt theres a single person anywhere who would write off the chiefs right now, even with their current issues.

and at the end of the day the chiefs still have their best weapon in dave rennie calling the shots, he is the best spXV coach by far with his insane two years head coach at super rugby level and two super rugby titles, pheeeeeew, o_O

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
27 Apr 2014, 23:08
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27 Apr 2014, 23:08#2

...You could throw a blanket over the top NZ sides at the moment they are so close but not sure if they all have the heart or as many injuries as the Chiefs which run into double figures...How the Chiefs held the Crusties to within a point I'm not sure given all the players missing.


Ben Afeaki - concussion
Aaron Cruden - thumb
Hika Elliott - neck (out for season)
Robbie Fruean - heart
Tawera Kerr-Barlow - concussion
Tanerau Latimer - Achilles
Mils Muliaina - elbow (out for season)
Charlie Ngatai - calf
Robbie Robinson - hip (out for season)
Liam Squire - concussion
Kane Thompson - hamstring
Mahonri Schwalger - (concussion


...So to stay thereabouts in the top six should be enough with some of their star backline returning soon...

... The Chiefs still need to win their next two home games against the Lions and the Blues to stay on track before their bye...after which with Cruden, Ngatai and Fruean back you'd have to rate their chances...

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Apr 2014, 00:44
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28 Apr 2014, 00:44#3
 Good assessment Brycy. I hope the Chiefs can limp along until the bye & then things will get better 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Apr 2014, 02:40
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28 Apr 2014, 02:40#4
I think Sasue has a point about the Chiefs chances 0 they potentially have the best backline in the competition - but the same cannot be said about their forwards. 
They have two top loose forwards (Messam and Cane) and everyone is agog about Retallick as well - I am not.  Plays like a loosie - he has excellent ball carry and tackling stats for a lock - but his actual contribution to tight 5 play is minimal,  The Chiefs struggle to get good line out ball - basically the responsibility of their locks - and their scrumming is not up to standard.
Without decent ball supply by their forwards their backline struggles to make the impression they made last year. It can be argued that that deficiency is reduced by their loosies getting quick turnover ball in breakdown situations and that benefits their backline performance - but the position in fact is that the right 5 deficiency forces their loosies to play a much tighter game than they prefer to play.  
I frankly cannot see how their returning players can make that much of a difference   to their performances and although they can improve during the rest of the competition  since the basic problems among their forwards will not be eliminated. 
I frankly have serious doubts whether they can win the trophy this year.        
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