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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
09 Oct 2013, 14:05
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09 Oct 2013, 14:05#1
Chiefs could be forced to wait longer for SBW It's anyone's guess where Sonny Bill Williams will be playing next season


Article Published: Tuesday 8 October 2013




The Chiefs may have to wait a while longer for Sonny Bill Williams' return to Super Rugby as he has now made himself available for the Rugby League World Cup.

Williams is understood to have told New Zealand Rugby League coach Stephen Kearney that he was unavailable for the World Cup which led to speculation that he may be on his way back to Rugby Union.

Kearney named a squad for the Rugby League World Cup without Williams yesterday.

However now the New Zealand coach says that he has been told that Sonny Bill Williams has made himself available for the upcoming rugby league World Cup.

Williams was apparently unavailable "due to other commitments" but reports have now emerged which suggest that Williams has pproached Kearney and informed him he'd changed his mind.

New Zealand Rugby League (NZRL) have since released a statement confirming Williams' availability.

"Late on Tuesday, Sonny Bill Williams expressed his desire to play for the Kiwis in the Rugby League World Cup," Kearney said.

"Our thinking had always been that if Sonny was available, he would be part of the team."

"We are now exploring options around Sonny's possible inclusion in the tournament. This would require ratification by the World Cup organisers."

It was originally thought that Williams wanted to play in the rugby league world cup as it would give him the opportunity to become a world cup winner in two codes.

It was also expected that if Williams played in the Rugby League World cup he would not play for the Chiefs until 2015 and possibly play for the Roosters in Sydney in 2014.

The move has angered many in Rugby League as Kearney named a 24 man squad and if Williams is included the coach will have to drop a player who has been told he will be playing in the world cup.

Sonny Bill is expected to be back in Rugby Union and available for the All Blacks for the 2015 Rugby World Cup and for New Zealand at the Olympics in 2016 for the Sevens squad.

It has been reported that the New Zealand Rugby Union have offered him a three year deal and are hoping to have him back in Rugby Union next year.


UPDATE :

Kearney on Wednesday said Melbourne Storm backrower Tohu Harris had been cut from the squad and Williams had been added in his place.

World Cup organizers have approved the move, although late squad changes are usually only permitted in the case of injury.

Kearney is now likely to face severe criticism over his handling of Williams' selection and his cynical treatment of the 21-year-old Harris, who has played only one test for New Zealand.

The New Zealand Rugby League offered to allow Harris to travel to Britain with the Kiwis as "a development player" but the Melbourne Storm rejected the offer.

"It's been a tough situation, but Sonny brings things to the group that we couldn't ignore," Kearney said. "He has had time since his NRL grand final win to clear his head and he wants to represent the Kiwis on the world stage.

"He missed our 2008 World Cup win and his inclusion will be a great asset in trying to repeat that success this year. It's not only his footballing ability, but also what he brings off the field which will benefit the team."

Kearney said Harris "handled the situation as well as anyone could.

"It was a conversation no coach would like to have, but he's a terrific young man and I'm sure he'll have many more opportunities to pull on the black jersey. It's been a unique set of circumstances for all involved, but for now our focus is getting set to defend the World Cup with the team we have."

Kearney's public expression of sympathy for Harris is unlikely to lessen anger in New Zealand at his treatment of a talented young player and his apparent pandering to the wayward Williams.

Williams is a talented player who has won two titles in Australia's National Rugby League, a Super Rugby title with the Hamilton-based Chiefs and a Rugby World Cup with the All Blacks. But he is also seen to place his own personal ambitions ahead of the interests of his teams.

He walked out on a contract with the Bulldogs in the NRL in 2008 to play rugby union for Toulon in France and was subsequently banned from the Australian league for five years.

He left Toulon to return to New Zealand but stayed only one year with the Christchurch-based Crusaders in Super Rugby before leaving for the Chiefs. He played 19 tests for the All Blacks through the 2011 World Cup, then quit to take up a lucrative short-term contract in Japan.

Williams failed to see out that contract because of injury and headed back to the NRL as soon as his ban had elapsed. He collected his second NRL title last weekend with the Sydney Roosters but has since refused to reveal whether he will stay in rugby league or return to rugby union.

Williams has also carved out a small career in professional boxing. He is the reigning New Zealand professional heavyweight champion, although he has fought only journeymen to date.

There are rumours about a boxing match some time in January 2014.



AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
09 Oct 2013, 14:06
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09 Oct 2013, 14:06#2
 WTF this guy is thinking?
He's as athletic and good player as bad decision maker out of the fields.
But he always find the support to make his no-sense acts, in this case the selector, Kearney and the World Cup organizers
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
09 Oct 2013, 16:15
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09 Oct 2013, 16:15#3
 Dude wants it all eh blackpower ? Hey bro your in Spain at the moment arent you ? I allways assumed you to be a Basque native [ not to get political but I know a little about the Basque seperatist movement and their struggle] would that be correct ?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Oct 2013, 18:31
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09 Oct 2013, 18:31#4

Like O'Connor -  his greatness has gone to his head and now he thinks he can do as he pleases and everyone will kow-tow in absolute obedience by  hitting their heads 24 times on the floor every time he tries any shenanigans. 

 

The question arises - how good a team member is he in fact?   He seems to be leaving teams at will to the spot where he can earn another few quick bucks.   In an opinion poll in New Zealand 31% if the respondents said they are sick and tired of the SBW show - and 30% he should not be selected.  So more than 50% oppose his conduct

 

It seems to me he is a great rugby player - but unprincipled - with his only loyalty being his ban k account.  

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
09 Oct 2013, 19:18
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09 Oct 2013, 19:18#5
first of all the article says that SBW didnt fulfill his contract cos he wss injured, thats just some dumb piece of journalism, getting injured and not being able to play dosnet mean u didnt fulfill ur contract, save me jeebers, o_O

nothing wrong with what SBW is doing, but that whole im unavailable but now im available for the RLWC is a farce.

i would like to know what exactly the reasons are for this latest incident though, but knowing SBW he wont care what others think and will continue to march at his own beat.

but should teams sleect SBW if hes available??? IMO of course they should, hes a game breaker with a particular set of skills that no one else in the world has.
but he needs to fulfill all the requirements, that means if he wants to play for the All Blacks, he needs to play super rugby for a NZ team, so june is the earliest we will see him.

@mikey,
hes nothing like bieber actually, cos SBW keeps his nose clean which bieber (conveniently nicknamed) didnt.

his professional antics about where he will or wont play on the other hand have rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
while i dont like it, SBW is in a unique position where he can keep everyone guessing and waiting, but its not like hes making any crazy demands, only sying that hes yet to make up his mind.
if fans should be angry with anyone, then they should be directing it at either the NRL or NZRU, cos they are also responsible in this supply and demand scenario.
all they need to do is say sorry, but were not interested and cut him off, but they dont, and SBW shouldnt be blamed for being in this unique position to take all the time he wants to weigh up his options.

this comment of urs though,,,
"It seems to me he is a great rugby player - but unprincipled - with his only loyalty being his bank account."
u do realise he turned down 2 million a year to resign with toulon and instead signed with the NZRU on 500k a year???
its not the money which interests SBW though he will get the most buck for his bang, its the glory and cementing the SBW legacy.
RWC, super XV titles, beldisloe, NRL titles, boxing titles, ranfurly shield,
and he wants to add the rio olympic 7s, RLWC, fr eedom cup, RC/4nats, those are IMO the biggest influence with SBW at the moment, and its why IMO hes going to be playing union in 2014.
BA
black adderClub Pro196 posts
10 Oct 2013, 01:15
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10 Oct 2013, 01:15#6

 Mike i don't think the WC kiwi squad are getting payed much . They're playing for their country which should be enough.

But given the limited years a professional sports person has to make a dollar i find it funny how people want to run his business for him . Whereas if you had a business and i came along and told you how to run it. You'd probabaly just tell me to fk off.

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Oct 2013, 01:31
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10 Oct 2013, 01:31#7
 @wardad,

yeah man, I'm a basque native and I'm in Spain at the moment.
As you probably know the Basque Country is what is called "a people without a state". It's divided in 2 parts, the south which now belongs to Spain is the biggest part and the north which is currently part of France.



That "peculiarity" has made that basque people from the south and from the north have culturally some things in common (like one of our languages, the original one, the basque which, by the way, is the oldest of Europe) but others not (like our other language, the spanish for some and the french for the others). The importance of the sports is also different. There's a "french way" in the north and that's why the most important sport there is rugby. They have 2 teams in the Top14 (Biarritz Olimpyque and Aviron Bayonnais which I obviously support but don't follow cuz top14 is so boring). But here in the south it's the "spanish way": football is the only existing one and very few people play or have played rugby. It's a kind of freaky sport.

And yes, there's been an armed struggle which began in the 60's and lasted untill 2 years ago. ETA (something similar to the irish IRA) was created during the dictatorship of Franco in response to the general repression that existed in those days and to the particular repression against the basques where it was forbidden to even speak in Basque.
2 years ago ETA declared a definitive cease fire. There has to be yet a negociation for the delivery of all the arms.......

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Oct 2013, 01:50
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10 Oct 2013, 01:50#8
 @sasu,
but there's one thing clear, SBW had tha whole season to think about if he plays the League WC and stays at League or if he goes back to union and chiefs. He had to have decided it before the naming of the squad because his decision involves other persons like in this case, that Harris
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
10 Oct 2013, 11:33
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10 Oct 2013, 11:33#9
 Cool bro I thought as much ,I knew about the repression of Basque culture and the struggles of your folks ,Kia Kaha ! Its why I was iffy about calling you "Spanish " It makes y our Rugby nous even more impressive given you are from the football region .
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
10 Oct 2013, 13:03
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10 Oct 2013, 13:03#10
 No use commenting.."The final word" has spoken! No one else can ever be right until TFW has given his summary!
Really feel for the bloke that misses out. SBW didnt need this. He didnt need the half baked fame that comes with it. Every rugby coach in the world (both codes) would have him. Everyone knows him. Some guy who is not well known but has a chance to make it on the big stage and possibly be offered more money and better contracts is going to miss out because SBW decides he wants to play. SBW definately doesn't need the money. He just wants to be the bloke that is "the reason" if NZL wins. He should drop Khoder Nasser and employ Sasuke "The final word" Itchyballe..."The reason" and "TFW" would make a formidable partnership!
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
10 Oct 2013, 13:27
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10 Oct 2013, 13:27#11
 Respect, ABasquefan. 
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