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Chiefs creating a Monster.

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What's going on?Club Pro237 posts
04 Sept 2013, 02:21
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04 Sept 2013, 02:21#1

 

Patrick McKendry: Chiefs look to snare three big names

 

Sonny Bill Williams, Julian Savea, Jerome Kaino; the Chiefs aren't looking to build a squad for next year, they want to make a monster.

Of the three high-profile and high-impact players they are seeking, Dave Rennie will be most confident of signing Williams, but given the reputation the franchise is building as a successful and sound environment, the Chiefs coach will have good grounds to believe he can snare the lot as he seeks to win a third title on the trot.

 

Yesterday's Herald on Sunday revealed Williams' concerns at the punishment his body is taking as a marked man at the Roosters in the NRL could be the deciding factor to link with Rennie again after his success in Hamilton last year. League commentator Andrew Voss yesterday tweeted the 28-year-old former All Blacks midfielder will sign this week, suggesting the player's manager Khoder Nasser's flights are already booked.

 

Williams could link with his cousin Tim Nanai-Williams or Charlie Ngatai in the Chiefs midfield next season, a high-class replacement for the injury-prone Richard Kahui who has left for Japan.

 

 

All Blacks wing Savea and former All Blacks loose forward Jerome Kaino are less certain to join, but the Chiefs have as good a chance as any to secure their services for next season and beyond. The Crusaders are also in the hunt for Hurricane Savea but the Chiefs would have put an emphasis on the quality of coaching he would receive under Wayne Smith.

Having the blockbusting 23-year-old as an option inside Aaron Cruden - with the equally dangerous Williams outside the All Blacks No10 - would made any opposing team's defensive coach lose sleep.

The Blues are chasing Kaino hard too, with coach Sir John Kirwan talking to him on a recent trip to Japan. Kirwan said the meeting was a positive one, adding the 30-year-old, who played 48 tests, was a "real Blues man".

 

Certainly, it would be interesting to watch Kaino, who would probably play No8, operating in a loose forward trio including the promising blindside flanker Steven Luatua, but equally as exciting would be watching him play alongside Liam Messam and Sam Cane at the Chiefs. The Chiefs' helter-skelter type attack could suit Kaino now he has two years of the fast Japanese game under his belt.

 

Williams' signature will give the Chiefs the inside running on adding to their two titles next season, but the capture of Savea and Kaino too would make them unbackable favourites.

 

The attacking abilities of the first two, combined with the destructiveness on defence of the latter, would make an already excellent and well-coach outfit one capable of tearing any team apart.

 

If nothing else, it shows Rennie and Co aren't prepared simply wait for another title to come to them. They're showing ambition and that's a pre-requisite for franchises looking to build dynasties.

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Sept 2013, 09:04
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04 Sept 2013, 09:04#2
still be the reds' byatches...
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Sept 2013, 09:04
#3
04 Sept 2013, 09:04#3
still be the reds' byatches...
WG
What's going on?Club Pro237 posts
04 Sept 2013, 09:28
#4
04 Sept 2013, 09:28#4

They're just toying with you Queensland dick chewers Red..

RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
04 Sept 2013, 10:25
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04 Sept 2013, 10:25#5
TBH - expecting mediocrity to return to the Reds under new coach... If chiefs can land these signing any team in the comp be jealous - mind you I think Tahs gonna come knocking next year for aussies.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Sept 2013, 12:47
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04 Sept 2013, 12:47#6

 

Scary stuff.

 

The Chiefs are my favourite kiwi team. Right from before the days of Sione Lauaki.

 

Reckon they'll be ruling the roost for awhile.

 

Once again it show you what proper planning can achieve. That's the big difference between us and the kiwis. They tend to put a little thought into the sport. We merely blunder ahead and hope for the best.

 

Wish I could get my hands on their home jersey.

 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
04 Sept 2013, 13:17
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04 Sept 2013, 13:17#7

 Is that what you did in life Clean Cunt..Blunder ahead and hope for the best now you stuck with nothing but regrets?

Poor demonstration of proper planning. Tell me, did you also plan to impregnate your sister or did that just come about whilst you blundered ahead? 

ps...Whose "us" you refer to? Do the Boks even know you exist? 

Wish you could get your hands on the Chiefs home jersey...Its called internet son..You can buy one on there..Hell, I will get you one. Give me an address I can send it to and your size..Always keen to help the less fortunate out.. I just hope the make Super Hulk sizes. You are massive and shredded aren't you? Maybe I can send it to your gym where you spend so much of your time.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
04 Sept 2013, 13:26
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04 Sept 2013, 13:26#8

 As far as creating Monsters go I still reckon Brodie Retallick looks like the love child of Herman Munster and Helen Clarke [ former NZ PM } !!!!

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Sept 2013, 14:15
#9
04 Sept 2013, 14:15#9

 

Hey Cloudy ... yeah I know ...thanks any way ... with the current rate of exchange it's a little steep for me.

 

That with import duties makes it ridiculous. Sadly. 

 

I'll keep looking locally.

 

I see there's quite a few Blues jersey about. Crusaders as well. 

 

 

 

 

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
04 Sept 2013, 15:56
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04 Sept 2013, 15:56#10

 Hey cloudy ! nah I havent had a chance to watch yet but am recording it .I had a signed Chiefs jersey from last year but it mysteriuosly vanished along with my stinky lil' brother after his last visit ! If he does it again I am taking his last born child as fair recompense !

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
04 Sept 2013, 19:01
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04 Sept 2013, 19:01#11

I don't think that would be a good thing for NZ rugby, except for Chiefs' fans who have to be more than delighted with these news (aren't you, justwin, wardad,...?). As the topic says, a moster would be created and it would be made from nothing, without being related with the base rugby. Waikato is now 6th in the ITM cup and the number of players provided to the franchise can be counted with the fingers of one hand (Messam, TKB, Lam, T. Smith and Tameifuna) plus another one plays with the Rebels. Facing these numbers, Auckland and Wellington provide around 15 players to Super Rugby franchises, the majority of them to the Blues and Canes respectively while Canterbury provides around 30.

But does the franchise have the money needed? creating this monster would require a lot of money. SBW, Savea and Kaino (if finally all of them play in NZ) will be btwin the best paid players if not the bests of all the NZ rugby.

I think (and maybe here I'm mixing up my wishes) that Kaino going to the Blues and Savea to the Saders  it's a more probable scenario and a more liked one also for the NZRU in terms of equalising the franchises (for sure a more liked one for blues or saders' fans). In this case the battle for the conference title btwin these 3 teams (sorry for the canes and landers fans, eh naru?) could be one of the hardest and closest in the last years
But who knows how it ends...

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 Sept 2013, 19:57
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04 Sept 2013, 19:57#12

ABasquefan: good post mate, although our old friend Black boy would not agree, lol He wanted the Chiefs to win at all costs.

WG
What's going on?Club Pro237 posts
04 Sept 2013, 21:16
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04 Sept 2013, 21:16#13

ABasquefan alot of people are worried, mostly Crusty fans about the Chiefs creating a dynasty.

How dare they challenge the Crusaders record LOL?

That would'nt be fair would it after them winning it seven times.

Especially like you say given how many players originate from Cantetbury then they need all the help they can get to make it eight - it's only fair then that Savea should also play for the Crusaders ?

 

I would have thought him staying at the Hurricanes would make things more equal.

Exciting also how the Blues now have Benji  - each team would then have that X factor player apart from those bonny kilted ones down south that cannae win a game .

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
04 Sept 2013, 22:58
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04 Sept 2013, 22:58#14

@stein,


sure Savea staying at canes would make things more equal and I think he should stay.
But I read here (sasuke posted) that the Hurricanes offered a contract which put Savea out of the 10 best paid players in the team what make him look for another team. That's something really hard to understand, they not only lose their best player but also strengthen one of their rivals. As much if he goes to the Chiefs as to the saders both teams will be too strong, at least on the paper, for the canes next year. If I were responsible for the franchise, no doubt I offer him the best possible salary.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
05 Sept 2013, 07:36
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05 Sept 2013, 07:36#15

at first the money required made me question the legitimacy of the claims regarding the chiefs recrutiting savea, SBW and kaino, something just didint fit in that equation, unless kaino was going to get paid in magic beans.
but when u look at some of the players leaving the chiefs, especially kahui, masaga and clarke, im sure those three would have been amongst the highest paid chiefs this year and none of them had the extra cash that comes with being an All Black.

i dont know if its too bad a thing for NZ rugby, when u look at the roster of all the other teams, its not like they have been playing with chump change players, blues are a work in progress, highlanders had a bad injury run which shouldnt plague them in 2014 (key word being shouldnt) and the hurricanes just need to lose that shitty as plague of a coach before they can can start rebuilding.
so all in all, were still in a very solid position, its not a coincidence that NZ have had two teams in every spXV semifinals.

if i was a saders fan i would be worried about the chiefs dynasty which IMO we are in the middle of already. blackadder might have continued the crusaders impressive record of making the finals every year, but the reality is that record is only impressive if ur any team but the crusaders.
the way i see it is, pat lam and blackadder both started their super rugby head coaching careers at the same time and both have produced similar results, zero titles. its time for a change IMO and that change needs to begin with the removal of one of their favourite sons blackadder.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
05 Sept 2013, 07:48
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05 Sept 2013, 07:48#16

the blues wouldnt be hurt too much if kaino decides to go else where instead of back home to cloudys loving arms, :oP
they still have 6 s luatua, 7 l braid, 8 p saili, 19 j kainoand thats a mean backrow trio right there, kaino would have given JK some flexible rotation options plus the the player from the bench would have been extra class.

kaino moving to the chiefs wouldnt be a bad move from both the teams and players point of view, matt van leven was impressive for the chiefs, but kaino could potentially give their backrow combo an even bigger boost up,,,
6 l messam, 7 t latimer, 8 j kaino, 19 s cane
thats a pretty mean combo right there

but something which IMO is even better then the chiefs for kaino would be to go to the crusaders,,,
6 j kaino, 7 R McCaw, 8 k read, 19 m todd
that would automatically make the crusaders backrow the best in the bizz, plus kaino gets to submerge himself in one of the most professional environments outside of the All Blacks.
crusaders would also be very capable of implementing a strong rotation policy for the 2014 season, IMO they were the best at doing so this year.

a lot of good options for kaino really and im already back pedaling on comments i made regarding kaino having no chance of making the All Blacks again.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Sept 2013, 11:51
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05 Sept 2013, 11:51#17

"The Chiefs are my favourite kiwi team."

 

Yes, me too. Even during their lean years they were prepared to throw the ball around and play attractive rugby. I've supported the Chiefs as my NZ team for many years, going back to the days of Bruce Reihana, Roger Randle and co. I was also a big fan of Deon Muir, a very underrated and hard-working #8 who some of the Kiwis might not even remember.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Sept 2013, 12:38
#18
05 Sept 2013, 12:38#18

 

You have a vast knowledge, Rooinek ... and not only of Bok rugby.

 

It's always impressed me.

 

Reckon you'd be an interesting person to speak to at a braai with a cold one in the hand.

 

 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Sept 2013, 12:51
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05 Sept 2013, 12:51#19

Wow! That's a bit out of the blue, CC, considering how many times we've called one another a stupid or ignorant moron or words to that effect!

 

Not sure if I'm all that interesting but you're in Jo'burg, aren't you? We could always meet for a drink if you are.

 

I have this notion that I become more interesting after a few cold ones although my wife assures me this is not the case . . . apparently it's quite the opposite!

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
05 Sept 2013, 13:30
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05 Sept 2013, 13:30#20

 Ha ha the two old cunts link up to form an alliance..Ha ha i was wondering when you two homo's would get close..Whats the word you used earlier Clean Cunt..Faggot or something like that.

 

No Rooi, you got it wrong...What your wife said was your friends become more interesting to her but she has to wait for you to have a few too many cold ones so she can get you out the picture..Dont worry about Clean Cunt though..At his age he aint getting the old fella up...

 

Ha ha fitting that the two biggest doos' would hook up but it wont be just a cold one you will have in each others hands or in your throats for that matter...Ha ha so glad I stumbled upon this PDA!

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Sept 2013, 13:42
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05 Sept 2013, 13:42#21

 

Haaahahaaa!!! Yeah my wife tells me the same. Not sure what she's on about though

 

Ignorant moron, huh?. Hmmmm ... ??? Strange how I always thought of putting a contract out on your head.

 

I found that muttering "goose blah blah" repeatedly helped me a lot!!! The contract was withdrawn shortly there after, so no worries!! 

 

Actually Pretoria. Got a transfer to Stellenbosch a few months back.  Me, my wife and dogs.

 

Thought you went to Cape Town. Not sure what gave me that impression.

 

I go through to our head office in Pretoria from time to time.  Will bang on your door and see if your available.

 

Look forward to it.

 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Sept 2013, 13:50
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05 Sept 2013, 13:50#22

Cape Town? Me? Good grief no! It's a very beautiful city but unfortunately it's also full of Capetonians!

 

I do like visiting Cape Town for holidays but it's hard work having to keep your back to the wall wherever you go.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
05 Sept 2013, 14:06
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05 Sept 2013, 14:06#23

 I'm sorta with Black Boy a bit as regards every other team and mine ,but only to a point ! If we get those guys it means more dough for other clubs to spend on new talent maybe ? 

 

Rooineck I like your Cheetahs for much the same reasons ,I have been keeping tabs on fellas like Coonie and Goosen [ is it pronounced " Hoosen " ???" ] 

And them Krusties have had their big slice of the Rugby pie for far too long ! 

Go Chiefs ! 

hey Cloudy ,Black Power , just win and Sas ! 

PS: I look forward to seeing how young Tomas fares ! 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Sept 2013, 14:24
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05 Sept 2013, 14:24#24

Wardad, yes, there are definitely similarities between the Cheetahs and the Chiefs, both from their adventurous style of play and also, until recently, their lack of success.

 

The Chiefs look determined to build on their successes of the past two years and if they do manage to attract players of the calibre of SBW and Kaino then they could become as dominant as the Crusaders used to be. If that is the case then I'll probably start liking them a lot less!

 

The "G" in the name "Goosen" has a guttural sound like the "G" in "Gullit" (the Dutch footballer) or the "ch" in the Jewish word "chutzpah". It sounds similar to the way a Spanish person would say a "J".

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
05 Sept 2013, 14:28
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05 Sept 2013, 14:28#25

 

One good thing though is that we don't have a pimple faced loudmouth playing with his tea set and barbie dolls round these parts.

 

Word has it he left for down under some time back. I'm told he likes wearing pink tights and doing high kicks when no one's watching.

 

So that's a plus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Sept 2013, 14:54
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05 Sept 2013, 14:54#26

Indeed, Smallcock and his family tucked their tails between their legs and ran off to New Zealand soon after apartheid was scrapped.

 

Smallcock now spends his days slagging off Kiwis and blubbering endlessly about how much he hates the country that took him in and gave his family a second chance.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Sept 2013, 15:19
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05 Sept 2013, 15:19#27

"it's a more probable scenario and a more liked one also for the NZRU in terms of equalising the franchises" Per ABasquefan

Equalising the francises!!!! Hahahahaha pleaseeeee. Crusties were loaded with abs! 

Now its the Chiefs turn. Must overplay ones hand.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
05 Sept 2013, 17:06
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05 Sept 2013, 17:06#28

 Rooinek does that mean that Goosens a cheeky spanish bloke ? hahahaha! nah mate I get it its like " Heyzoos [Jesus} then eh ?

SP
SpooonyClub Pro718 posts
05 Sept 2013, 17:19
#29
05 Sept 2013, 17:19#29

Chiefs supporters reminds me of Blue Bull supporters for some reason

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
05 Sept 2013, 18:00
#30
05 Sept 2013, 18:00#30

@warhammer,

speaking of "Heyzoos [Jesus} then eh ?"

 

John McClane: How deep is it cut? Zeus Carver: How the hell would I know? John McClane: Just keep pressure on it. Jésus, right? John McClane. Thanks for covering my ass back there. I owe you one. Zeus Carver: Damn right, you owe me one! Do you know what those guys are doing to my shop right now? John McClane: Chill out, Jésus. Zeus Carver: Chill out? Talk like a white man! John McClane: Look, Jésus … Zeus Carver: Why're you calling me "Jésus"? Do I look Puerto Rican to you? John McClane: The guy back there called you Jésus. Zeus Carver: No, he said "Hey, Zeus!" My name is Zeus. John McClane: Zeus? Zeus Carver: Yes, Zeus! As in Father of Apollo? Mount Olympus? Don't-fuck-with-me-or-I'll-shove-a-lightning-bolt-up-your-ass Zeus! You got a problem with that? John McClane: No, I don't have a problem.


one of my favourite top movie scenes of all time, lolz, :oP

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
05 Sept 2013, 23:42
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05 Sept 2013, 23:42#31

Yep, if 2010 was "shortly" after apartheid was scrapped in your books then yes, thats what I did.

 

Hey talking about "tails tucked between legs" have you two old fella's set a date and time for your "meeting?". I am sure you boys have some "tails" you wana tuck between each others legs. Obviously the wives got nothing left to give.

 

Did you see Rooinek's little call for help to the editor. Pimply face little small cock has way too much power me thinks! Like a little girl on a playground Rooi can dish it out but cant take it back..I will get you everytime Rooi..Do you know why?? Between you and Clean Cut, you lived your life in the apartheid days. Probably enjoyed klapping the odd black oke too. Times changed and you fucks were no good at anything else. Now you are stuck there and at the mercy of the same black brothers you once hit!

 

Lets hope your kids dont pay for your mistakes!

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Sept 2013, 00:12
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06 Sept 2013, 00:12#32

"Did you see Rooinek's little call for help to the editor"

 

No, I think I missed that one, Smallcock. Please put up a link to the post or comment that you interpreted as being a call for help from me to the editor.

 

Don't be a trembling little coward, now . . . put up or shut up.

 

 

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