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MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
01 Jul 2016, 10:27
#1
01 Jul 2016, 10:27#1
Chiefs leading 17-10 at half time in wet game in Suva.
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:26
#2
01 Jul 2016, 11:26#2
 Chiefs win 23-13
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:27
#3
01 Jul 2016, 11:27#3
Chiefs win it 23 to 13. Congrats to our boys!! Hope to see the game tomorrow. Commiserations to the Saders & their fans. The NZ derby battle continues.
Beeno, please review the game as it will be a good learning experience for you - we hope... 


One must remain optimistic
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:39
#4
01 Jul 2016, 11:39#4
 JW, the Mighty Chiefs actually dominated this match. Forward pack stood up and bashed them. They even held their own in the scrums which was a pleasant surprise.
GO YOU GOOD TABLE TOPPERS!!!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:43
#5
01 Jul 2016, 11:43#5
 Good to hear Moolaa. Everyone expected the Saders scrum to be dominant. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:44
#6
01 Jul 2016, 11:44#6
 JW I was fortunate enough to be busy and only saw the last ten minutes of this snorrefest! Must say the scrummie flattening retardlick was amusing!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:54
#7
01 Jul 2016, 11:54#7
Beeno, to quote Moolaa "TOP OF THE TABLE"
I see that the wee stormers are 10 points behind the Mighty Chiefs on the S18 standings table. Can they beat the Rebs, should be a thriller
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
01 Jul 2016, 11:57
#8
01 Jul 2016, 11:57#8
 I believe the predicted crowd for that match has seen the game being shifted to a table tennis table....
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Jul 2016, 12:11
#9
01 Jul 2016, 12:11#9
 Yaaaaaaawn. Oaks the wimbledon build up is on plus highlights etc. Asking me to watch two dopey nz sides is a bit much! Pap wee chiefies versus the old crust! hardly inspiring!Darn I see there is a rain delay but thankfully centre court will be okay
JW you will be pleased to know my tennis is going well! HahahahahhaahahaBy the way be very careful in quoting the error strewn moooo la la of full moon fame!

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Jul 2016, 12:55
#10
01 Jul 2016, 12:55#10
 Beeno tries his hand at tennis                               Hasn't anyone told him that's a golf club
PS how did those blokes in the top right hand corner get past his wall
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
01 Jul 2016, 13:22
#11
01 Jul 2016, 13:22#11
 Pretty groovy sneaking one in over the Crusties hehehehe....
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Jul 2016, 15:26
#12
01 Jul 2016, 15:26#12
Other Articles on the game
Chiefs go top of the table after edging Crusaders; by Patrick McKendry ; NZ Herald

Sleepless in Suva. Crusaders coach Todd Blackadder might have endured a difficult evening after watching his previously table-topping side lose their place along with their bonus point at the end of this match due to Damian McKenzie's penalty after the final siren.

McKenzie's late three points, after Crusaders replacement halfback Mitchell Drummond was adjudged to have held on to the ball when running from a defensive scrum, put the margin of victory beyond seven, therefore the Chiefs banked all four competition points.

It was a deserved result for Dave Rennie's Chiefs, who took their chances well and are back on track after a poor performance last time out against the Waratahs in Sydney. They are used to playing without the ball, and had to tonight. The Crusaders had the lion's share of it, but either turned it over or failed to capitalise.

The men from Hamilton are in pole position in terms of the playoffs with away matches against the Reds and Highlanders to come.

The Crusaders, one point behind, have home matches against the Rebels and Hurricanes.

That No1 spot is still up for grabs, but the Crusaders will feel they let themselves down during this match in Fiji's capital, played in pouring rain at the start. Physically they were slightly off after a furious start, but mentally they didn't seem all there either.

Their tactics in kicking for the corner when 10 points down with 20 minutes to go and then 12 minutes remaining when all they needed to do was keep the game as tight as possible really were strange. Fortunately for them they got another penalty in front with seven minutes remaining, which Richie Mo'unga knocked over. Then came the late intervention from McKenzie, and it was probably poetic justice.

In McKenzie and James Lowe they had the game's two best backs. Brad Weber was good too, and then once Stephen Donald did his bit in the No10 jersey, he made way just after the break for All Blacks first-five Aaron Cruden.

For the Crusaders, hard-charging flanker Jordan Taufua was their best, with their No10 Mo'unga not too far off. The Crusaders were all but done at 17-3, but conjured the last score of the half, as they invariably do. It was a classic - a sweeping move, started by Nemani Nadolo, who chased and caught his own poor kick, and finished by countryman Jone Macilai, with a conversion from wide on the right by Mo'unga

They had the upper hand up front, but as so often over the years, they couldn't make it count on the scoreboard. A penalty was their only reward after 19 minutes of pressure and territory in a match played at an intensity typical of the New Zealand derby matches this season.

Many among the capacity crowd of 19,000 queued for hours before kick-off in the pouring rain, and they were rewarded with a match too important in terms of the competition to be considered an exhibition. Some of the tackling by Taufua was a testament to that, as was the blood on the faces on many, including Dominic Bird and Joe Moody.

The Chiefs had gone ahead thanks to Lowe's try, the wing a beneficiary of a piece of subtlety from new All Black Seta Tamanivalu's kick, plus a superb try to Weber, the little halfback following up McKenzie's scorching break from his side of halfway.

In the end those two scores were enough. McKenzie's penalties helped too, particularly the last one.

Chiefs 23 (James Lowe, Brad Weber tries; Damian McKenzie 2 cons, 3 pens)
Crusaders 13 (Jone Macilai try; Richie Mo'unga con, 2 pens)
Halftime: 17-10

NZ Herald


Link to rugby 365 article


D. McKenzie was their man of the match.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
01 Jul 2016, 16:24
#13
01 Jul 2016, 16:24#13
 If I had known wee McKenzie was kicking I might have made him my Cap!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Jul 2016, 16:36
#14
01 Jul 2016, 16:36#14
 Wardad; he got 45 points - so far at least. We will see what the final tally is.  I forgot to check my captain so he remained as such. However, I probably would have selected Folau if I had checked. I hope I don't live to regret it.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Jul 2016, 08:16
#15
03 Jul 2016, 08:16#15
 

Liam Messam set for Chiefs return after Olympic snub; NZ Herald


Liam Messam is set to make a surprise return to Super Rugby after missing out on the New Zealand Sevens side for the Rio Olympics.

Messam will suit up for the Chiefs, where he will be eligible to play in their final two regular season games, and the playoffs.

The SOS to Messam has become necessary after a raft of injuries in the Chiefs loose forwards, with Johan Bardoul, Maama Vaipulu, Michael Leitch and Mitchell Karpik having all suffered long term injuries.

Currently under contract with Japanese side Toshiba, Messam has been granted the opportunity to return to the Chiefs, the team for whom he holds the appearances record, having played in 144 games.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Jul 2016, 08:18
#16
03 Jul 2016, 08:18#16
 Good to get Messam back
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Jul 2016, 09:31
#17
03 Jul 2016, 09:31#17
 Interesting stats:

 

Chiefs

Saders

Attack

 

 

Tries

2

1

Meters gained

381

473

Carries

86                       

100

Defender beaten

15

11

Clean breaks

9

16

Passes

109

135

Offloads

13

13

Turnovers conceded

12

22


The key stat is the turnovers, Saders tried too much for the conditions & this resulted in errors.

Defence

 

 

Tackles

84

84

Missed Tackles

11

15

Turnovers won

9

5

 

 

 

Turnovers the stat that stands out with the Chiefs having the advantage.

Breakdown

54

58

Rucks won

94.7%

90.6%

Rucks lost

3

6

Mauls won

1

4

Chiefs advantage in rucks won.

Set plays

 

 

Lineouts won

7

12

Lineouts lost

1

0

Scrums won

9

8

Not much in it but Chiefs surprised Saders in having a tough scrum (stats don't show this)

Discipline

 

 

Penalties conceded

9

6

Red cards

0

0

Yellow cards

0

0

Saders less penalties but not significant.
So overall IMO the Saders did not adjust to the conditions as well as the Chiefs (ran more & turned the ball over more). Saders had more attack but Chiefs beat more defender so were more effective.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Jul 2016, 11:19
#18
03 Jul 2016, 11:19#18
 Good to see the Lions took top of the table!
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Jul 2016, 11:38
#19
03 Jul 2016, 11:38#19
 Beandip joined a tennis club to escape his overbearing wife ... and off course to sneak a little red meat into his supposed strict vegan diet.
Don't tell his wife!!!!!!!!!!!!
He knows as much about tennis as he does rugby ... squat .

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Jul 2016, 11:44
#20
03 Jul 2016, 11:44#20
 duplicate

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