CJ Stander huge for Ireland

Stamp is a minor team bully....the moment he was up against England and NZ he disappeared.

Scotland is a second tier team that shows up occasionally. But Dave I’ve solved why  they gave Stampkar the MOM.....on the video they had Stamp as having made 72 meters....but on ESPN Stats they corrected that, it was 27 meters. Arse about face, just like Stamp when he meets Vunipola!

I can never understand you Moz when you get standout players like Stander and Pieter-Steph as to why you are intent to criticise them with negatives when there are so many positives.

A couple of years it was an anti- Lambie campaign and you and Organhuffer and Pakkie formed a triumviate against Pat's fans.

Cannot you just please explain objectively and give credit when it's due...unless we are all fools and you see yourself as the only expert...

Give credit when it's due...you don't have to be a fan of a player and are entitled to have your view but these are unquestionably good players, even outstanding at times.

There is a lot bias on this forum unfortunately you are not by far the only one.

There just seems that some people cannot give credit to anybody even though they deserve it.

Is a big tussle amongst posters to deliberately rile other posters. Is it part of the game plays people have on this forum...to blatantly be ridiculous and stir

and ol Mike has his fair share of bias and it's always opposite to you...don't mention the hasbeens like Morne Steyn, Frans Steyn, Willem Alberts and Victor Matfield and many others.

I just find it strange that you group up on this forum that gangup on each other with the identical players...is that just coincidence...no sir I don't buy it.

It always ends in personal attacks and it's been I'm told over a decade or more and NEVER changes.

Others find it pathetic and rather sad whilst others see as part of the furniture and just heave a sigh,,,"Oh not again!"

Others are amused like Rooinek...2 doddery old toppies who have being going at it for 10 years...perhaps its even more...it seems like eternity,

Is it all going to end only when one of you go to the next world...not really funny and I certainly would miss either one but then it will be too late.

Very odd.

Well done Stander you had a great game for Ireland...definitely the standout player of the match.

"All players are equal but some are more equal than others."

Not doddery at all my swing speed is still above 105 mph. Stamp and Dud are hyped way beyond their contributions....when does Dud win a ball on the ground? When does Stamp break a tackle. Hardly ever in both cases.

Perfectly ordinary contributions are praised to the heavens....they are media darlings. I’m simply factual.

For example this last weekend Houwing gave Dud the gold....but Coetzee was the real gold and the numbers prove it. I speak up for the other guys.

"PSDT does not effect turnovers for its not his role - pretty obvious"

But he actually does make crucial turnovers too...and even the odd intercept. He plays with a lot of heart and goes from strength...should be the Stormers captain too...take the pressure off Kolisi during normal season. Hammering on his few minor weaknesses is daft...IMO, but I have my pet hates too, so ...

I don’t have any pet hates.....I’m sure Dud is a delightful young fellow. He’s just not the dominant force the media believes.

...also not the "dud" you make him out to be...the truth is somewhere in between. 

Not really.....I accept the fact that he is finally a test level player. He would probably make teams like Scotland and Australia. But is he better than Snyman as a lock? Is he really fulfilling the role of a blindsider? Or is he playing a hybrid/rover role that worked uniquely in the Bok’s current system?

If Dud was playing flank for Ireland in the RWC he wouldn’t have made an iota of difference. A rising tide lifts all boats and the rising Springbok tide lifted DudToit and Dud Allende.

Snyman way better in the lineouts, faster, a better offloader , stronger...Dud perhaps more reliable in process tackling and he’s pretty good at the pick and go. Snyman has a much higher potential.

"Or is he playing a hybrid/rover role that worked uniquely in the Bok’s current system?"

That's what I've been saying for a while now. PSDT, Kolisi, DdA and even Willie are not classical players for their positions. All of them perform in some hybrid roles...and it's working... for now atleast...

Du Toit is faster than Snyman. 

Personally I have not seen to much to rave about re Stander. 

Neither RG nor PSDT plays for Ireland. ...CJ does.