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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2012, 11:05
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06 Jun 2012, 11:05#1

JON CARDINELLI of keo writes the forward battles as well as the physical clashes in midfield promise to be the most significant in Saturday’s Test at Kings Park.

There’s already been a fair bit said about the high level of physicality we should expect in the series opener. It’s always been decisive in previous bouts between South Africa and England, and in any sporting series, the team that lands the first blow is often the team that sets the tone for that game as well as the matches to follow.

South Africa boast a terrific record against England. There was a time when they struggled against this side, but since Jake White’s Boks broke the Twickenham curse in 2006, the Boks have gone undefeated in seven Tests. Every one of those victories has been built on forward dominance, and across the board the Boks have aimed to win the collisions more than anything else. (Please note all oaks!!)

We’ve all heard why Heyneke Meyer has selected the squad that he has, and why he is not taking the English lightly. The Boks will go into this series without several key forwards, Schalk Burger, Duane Vermeulen and Andries Bekker to be specific, and this makes them a slightly less imposing force at the set pieces and collisions.

Bekker is without peer as a lineout manager in this country while Burger and Vermeulen are among the most abrasive loose forwards on the planet.(Exactly so as I have tried to tell some oaks!!) There are still some quality alternatives, and Juandre Kruger will be expected to play a Bekker- type role at No 5. Similarly, Willem Alberts and Marcell Coetzee will have massive jobs to do on defence and in a ball-carrying capacity.

Winning clean set-piece ball and then dominating the battle at the gainline will be the Boks’ priority on Saturday. Expect the hosts to keep it simple (I swear these guys read every word I say!). They haven’t had much time to prepare as a unit, so there won’t be anything flash or fancy. They will aim to subdue the English through a powerful set-piece performance and then an even stronger ball-carrying showing round the fringes and in midfield.

They will also aim to pressure the English back three with a barrage of high kicks. They have the physicality in chasers like Bryan Habana and JP Pietersen to trouble the English in the air. Kicking specialist Morné Steyn is a terrific exponent of this tactic and will cause the visitors problems, and South Africa should benefit from any mistakes. However, I’m concerned that Francois Hougaard, who is being touted to start, is not as accurate with his tactical kicking and may not be as successful in creating that pressure.

If the Boks manage to win the set-piece battles, they have the midfield to take them beyond the gainline. In Frans Steyn and Jean de Villiers they have two men in excess of 100kg, and as was evident at last year’s World Cup, Steyn is difficult to stop whenever he gets the ball on the front foot. England will have some physical midfield players in Brad Barritt and Manu Tuilagi, but if the England pack is retreating, Barritt and Tuilagi could be in for a difficult time on defence.

While I think that Hougaard has struggled this season with his tactical kicking, he is the type of player suited to such a combative fixture. Again, much will depend on the collective showing of the Bok pack, but if the home side dominates, Hougaard can take advantage with those strong runs from the base. If anything, he will keep the English loose forwards a bit closer to the ruck and create more space for Frans Steyn and De Villiers to run at the defence and thus cross the gainline.(Yes this is exactly what I have been saying - with Du Preez not breaking the pressure shifts to the midfied - well done Cardinelli for understanding what I said!! Card missed this one for sure!)

To say physicality will be all-important in a South Africa vs England clash is stating the obvious. However, the selections that Meyer is set to make suggest he is not taking this England side for granted. If you need proof that there are no guarantees in matches like these, then look no further than Scotland’s win against the Wallabies in Australia on Tuesday. A big, physical Bok pack will be selected for Saturday’s match as well as a combative centre pairing. (Seems Beeno and Sapster got this right. Beeno being the common demoninator when it comes to correct calls - hahahahahahaha)

The Boks will aim to play a game of pressure and use the big boys to full effect. It may not be pretty and in the first game of the season it won’t be polished, but Meyer’s method is the right one considering the mindset of the opposition.

Very good artilce based entirely on the views of your truly. Cardinelli should however be honest and acknowledge his source.

I trust now everyone knows what to expect.

Mike I hope you realise the error of your ways predicting a Bok loss. I amsure though you hope I am right. 

One other thing. You will note on the home page an article discussing Marcell Coetzee. The article says he played most of his rugby at 8  -which  I said looked to be his natural position (Amazing stuff Beeno - take a bow!) That said this guy is good enough to play any loose forward position and will start against Engand. At least one of the loosies can tackle.

Oh for Schalk and Duane to be playing!!! Among the most abrasive loose forwards in world rugby.

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jun 2012, 11:44
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06 Jun 2012, 11:44#2

Beeno

Excellent article - but there is a problem.   Nothing said about Spies as loose forward and the afct that Alberts is so slow - he would never get to any breakdown point soon enough and he would not be able to tackle anybody.   Have you not seen any Super 15 games in which he played?   He was so bad last weekend - he was replaced at half time.   That is one problem with our team and is augmented by the fact that Spies is not up to standard.   

One thing i agree with is to play Coetzee at no 8 - that would be a top class solution till such time as vermeulen is available.

Back line play will only be possible if the ball gets to the centers fast enough.   With a slow service nothing would happen.   The only way effective and fast service will be possible if they cut out Morne Steyn and Franscois Steyn becomes first receiver or they take Lambie off the bench to replace Morne.   Otherwise the 10 man game is our forte.

Last comment - I think Habana is a good chaser - but the sapster will kill me for saying so.   Pietersen has the potential to chase - but his speed is a real problem.   Too slow for the job that one.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2012, 16:30
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06 Jun 2012, 16:30#3

Mike to me slow ball is firstly the responsibilty of the forwards, Then very importantly its the scrummie. Hogaard must try to not hesitate too long. I am personally not to worried about Morne's distribtion which to me is fine.

Whta is noce i stha tbothlabi eand Ruan are on the bench i fthings need a change. hougaard wil lthen move to the wing where he is exceptionally dangerous. Olivier is a decent center and once again folk just go too far trashing him.

Alberts was poor against the lions but brilliant against the Stormers (Althoug hourloe trio was weakened). Who will turn up? I believe he will come out firing - man how can you not be motivated. Here is a chance to claim the 7 jersey!

Spies needs to get fired up too. Of concern is the amount of tackles Albert and Spies miss. This they have to improve on. Both these player know Schalk and Duane are lurking  - will that get them focused?

As for Pietersen he is a competent wing lacking a yard of pace.Has always lacked a yard so its nothing to do with age sapster. But he has a nice step which makes him a threat particualry near the line, is powerful in the collisions and will not let the side down.

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