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Cloudy and Just Win and other NZ friends...outshining us Saffa's not only on the field,on the forum and in the kitchen.

Started by generaltit11 REPLIES1,718 VIEWS· 08 Jan 2014, 10:01
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GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
08 Jan 2014, 10:01
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08 Jan 2014, 10:01#1

Especially for Cloudy...the queen of the kitchen...a Russian recipe (it's very tasty...Elena my wife makes it and I love it). Just Win...Happy Christmas yesterday in Ufa...have you eaten Pelmeni...if you have not then ask your Russian family to do it for you.

 

Russian Pelmeni Recipe + New Dough Recipe!   Save Print Prep time 2 hours Cook time 10 mins Total time 2 hours 10 mins   Author: Natasha of NatashasKitchen.com Skill Level: Medium Cost To Make: $8-$10 Serving: 180+ pelmeni Ingredients Ingredients for Pelmeni Dough:
  • ? cups buttermilk
  • 1 Tbsp sour cream
  • 2 large eggs
  • 2 cups warm water
  • 1½ tsp salt
  • 7 cups plus 6 Tbsp unbleached all-purpose flour
  • Ingredients for Pelmeni Filling:
    • 1 lb ground turkey
    • 1 lb ground pork
    • 1 medium onion, finely diced
    • 1 Tbsp olive oil
    • 3 garlic cloves, pressed
    • ½ tsp ground pepper
    • ¾ tsp salt
    • 1 tsp hot sauce, optional
    Ingredients/ Ideas for Toppings:
    • Melted butter, sour cream, vinegar, ketchup
    Instructions How to Make Basic Vareniky or Pelmeni Dough:
    1. Using the whisk attachment on medium speed, mix together: ? cup buttermilk, 1 tbsp of sour cream 2 cups warm water, 2 eggs and 1½ tsp salt until well blended
    2. Switch to dough hook and add 4 cups flour. Mix on speed 2 until well blended.
    3. Add 3 more cups of flour (one cup at a time and wait for the dough to become well blended with each cup).
    4. Add the rest of the flour 1 Tbsp at a time, until the dough is no longer sticking to the sides of the bowl (I used 6 Tbsp). Once it is no longer sticking to the bowl, continue to mix 5 minutes. (Total mixing time is about 20 minutes from the time you start adding flour).
    5. Place the dough on a lightly floured surface.
    How to Make Pelmeni Filling:
    1. Heat 1 tbsp oil in a medium skillet. Add onion and saute until golden and soft. Add garlic and saute another minute.
    2. Mix together pork, turkey, onion & garlic mix, ¾ tsp salt, ½ tsp ground pepper and 1 tsp hot sauce (optional).
    If using a pelmeni mold:
    1. Cut off about tennis-ball-size chunks of dough and roll out into a circle.
    2. Place over mold. Place ½ tsp meat into each pocket space on the mold.
    3. Roll out another chunk of dough and place over the mold.
    4. Use a rolling pin, roll the top, working from the center – outwards until the pelmeni are well-defined.
    5. Turn the pelmeni maker over and push the pelmeni out onto a well-floured cutting board.
    6. Arrange pelmeni evenly on the cutting board, sprinkle with flour and place in the freezer. Pinch together any open edges on pelmeni or the meat will float out during cooking.
    7. Once they are fully frozen, put them in large ziploc bags, sprinkle with flour and freeze them for future enjoyment.
    If making pelmeni by hand:
    1. Shape a portion of the dough into a 1 to 2 -inch thick log. Cut off 1 piece at a time (about gum ball sized) and roll into disks to form a 1.5-inch circle with rolling pin. Sprinkle rolling pin and surface with flour if needed.
    2. Place 1 tsp pelmeni filling in the center,
    3. Close the edges and pinch together.
    4. Pinch the corners together to form, well… a diaper shape.
    5. Place pelmeni onto a well-floured cutting board. Arrange pelmeni evenly on the cutting board, sprinkle with flour and place in the freezer.
    6. Once they are fully frozen, put them in large ziploc bags, sprinkle with flour and freeze them for future enjoyment.
    To Cook Pelmeni:
    1. Bring a pot of water to boil (add 1 tbsp salt for a large soup pot, or 1 tsp salt for a smaller 4 quart pot). Add FROZEN pelmeni and return to a boil. They should float to the top, then boil for 3 mintues longer (or until meat is fully cooked). Drain pelmeni and place them in a clean bowl. Toss pelmeni with butter and sprinkle with dill (optional). Serve them warm with ketchup, sour cream or vinegar (my personal favorite).

     

     

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Jan 2014, 10:07
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08 Jan 2014, 10:07#2
 Forget it Seb I want the mean boil recipe! Seems though its a trade secret!
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
08 Jan 2014, 10:15
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08 Jan 2014, 10:15#3
 Thanks Seb - will use it! 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
08 Jan 2014, 10:19
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08 Jan 2014, 10:19#4

 PS I hope Linca Steyn does not see this because I'm sure Frans (as will most sporty guys) will get addicted to Pelmeni (poor ol' Beeno...I'm sure this recipe could be banned in his household...lolz).

 

Looks like the Steyns spent some time in Russia during their honeymoon.

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Jan 2014, 21:32
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08 Jan 2014, 21:32#5
Seb: thanks for the Russian New Year wishes & yes we did eat pelmeni and many other dishes (including lamb). Hope you had a good New Year's cel ebration also.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2014, 21:49
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08 Jan 2014, 21:49#6
After that you had Just_Wind?  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Jan 2014, 21:55
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08 Jan 2014, 21:55#7
Beeno: I recommend that you engage in some self-reflection, remember the pictorial evidence that you yourself posted (I seem to recall a dog bone or two was illicitly consumed - not a strictly veggie diet mate). Then there was the stubborn resistance to the "reality therapy" that stretched over most of 2013. Do you really think that you deserve Cloudy's mean-boil recipes? But that's between you & Cloudy - far be it from me to interfere. 
Speaking for myself a simple admission that the ABs are the RWC champions & NZ are the best rugby nation of all time would show significant improvement in your mental state & improve the harmony in this forum. I am sure you can count on the support of some of your countrymen in this regard 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Jan 2014, 22:04
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08 Jan 2014, 22:04#8
Very witty Mozart!  Yes, I find a double measure of Just_wind (as in wind-up) goes well with most things, lol
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Jan 2014, 08:10
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09 Jan 2014, 08:10#9
Hi Cloudy, lol , glad to see you have charmed the real men on this site 
We had so many Russian dishes but I don't know the name of most of them. As even if they told  me it wouldn't stick. I Googled piroshkis but I don't recognize it so I don't think we had it.
They served one appetizer that was like a kidney pate - don't know the name of it; a lot of different salads (more like potatoe salad in consistency but made of salmon & who knows what else). Lamb was served as a type of stew in individual pots (one of the gifts we gave them). We had a lot of Compote which was made from fruit from their country batch. Many other dishes which I don't recall.
The country batch was an experience that took me back to memories of my grandfathers house in Browns Bay. Those were the days before the harbour bridge so there were few amenities. He had an outhouse and collected water in a water tank as there was no city supply. All fine for Auckland weather but the Russian version came with -32C temps. We made some real fast scampers too and from the Russian version of the outhouse I can tell you that, lol Bum almost froze to the toilet seat 
My grandson has been briefed on rugby basics & that should hold until I see him next time, lol
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
09 Jan 2014, 08:40
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09 Jan 2014, 08:40#10

My first meal in Russia was overpowering...just after a long flight from Johannesburg to Zurich and then a fairly long wait in Zurich for connecting flight to Moscow...had an alcoholic American from Boston boozing Jack Daniels all night...no sleep.

 

Hospitality from humble people...so many courses...Borshct...salads...red caviar (no Beluga, it's a absorbitant), more salads, fish(salmon and sturgeon),pork and chicken...it went on and on...nearly burst, followed by Georgian wine and proper Vodka (made from wheat and not potatoes or cane like in SA) drank neat...once through this only to be presented with sweets, puddings and cakes. Truly never seen anything like this in my life...I love these people...the most sincere and genuine and they really have got nothing...I realised we westerners can learn a lot from them...the propaganda lies and bulldust that we had been taught in the west about Russians...totally the opposite.

 

Just Win, a NZ'er will bear me out...incidentally...Cloudy, their fish is so tasty...Sturgeon (the fish from which Beluga caviar is extracted) is more tastier than Atlantic Salmon, trout or any sea fish but it is fairly costly.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Jan 2014, 09:55
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09 Jan 2014, 09:55#11
Seb: yes we were told a lot of half-truths about the Russians during the cold war & the Americans were told a pack of lies.  The Russians were told as many lies as we were told - maybe more. There view of their own history also interesting but I learned to avoid discussions of politics and history. It was a mine field so to speak.
Culturally one of the more interesting discussions was about the future of my son & his wife - where they should live and how to help them get started. The idea of us discussing the future of my son & his wife of 3 years seemed normal to them but to me it was strange. 
They were extremely generous with everything and hospitable in the very old sense of the word. Provided us with an apartment, food, transport, everything really. 
I had the "Banos experience" - 3 men naked in a Russian bath house is not my idea of a good time, lol all part of the cultural experience.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
09 Jan 2014, 11:02
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09 Jan 2014, 11:02#12

Cloudy, yes there are dishes that are heavy and stodgy but that is obviously because of the winters...in Siberia it is often -50 degrees and lower so fatty food is necessary but in the Caucausus regions you will find they loved salads and barbarqued lamb (Shasklik) a kebab...georgian style. The Russians and the Georgians are poles apart however and never make the mistake of mis-identificating either or your likely to end up in huge confrontation...they are very sensitive to this. The conflict between them still continues rather like my Irish forbears which is something I feel strongly about...I'm a southern boytie...grandad's family from Cork but I like the Ulster boys...afterall they are all Irish...fairly laterly Her Majesty the Queen has done a lot with having visited Eire and the Prime Minister and relationships are far better.

 

Not so with Russia and Georgia...it's so bad that rugby matches between them have been played in neutral countries like Turkey in case of an all out free for all. Georgians are nice people too if you understand them and respect them...they are very tough physically and make excellent front rowers (because wrestling is a top sport there)...in fact countries like Australia that are lean on front men could import a few Georgian for this purpose and benefit.

Yes, JW the future is very important to them...education being paramount...they are exceptionally hardworking, intelligent and studious...Moscow and St Petersburg has probably got more university graduates than any big city like London or New York.

 

In comparison to Saffaland now it's a joke...Elena has never seen such dom clucks...in 2007 WC we watched the game between Ireland and Georgia in which Georgia leading most of the time nearly beat Ireland...it was very close. South Africans kept referring Georgia as Russians which irritated my wife no end...it was very doff and it embarrassed me no end.

 

When in Russia and speaking to Russians there knowledge of my small rather insignificant country was impressive...an old ex USSR (old Soviet Union) Navy Officer (also a Cardiologist, can you believe...knew a lot of Chris Barnard and Marius and had actually met at some conference) asked me where I lived in SA...I told him Hillcrest, between Pietermaritzburg and Durban...he pointed this out on a map he brought out.

Crumbs they are sharp and on the ball.

 

I find that incredible and impressive.

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