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clueless Bok still lack a contingency plan by Armand van Zyl the ROAR

Started by Just_win9 REPLIES253 VIEWS· 19 Aug 2014, 01:22
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Aug 2014, 01:22
#1
19 Aug 2014, 01:22#1

Going into the Springboks versus Pumas match I was a relatively happy man. The Springboks’ record was held intact through the draw between the All Blacks and the Wallabies, Western Province demolished traditional rivals the Blue Bulls in the Currie Cup and I won a few beers free of charge at the local liquor store.

So the beers were set, my Springboks jersey was on and the day was going good. Then came the time for the Pumas game.

From the first minute I knew that this was going to be the worst game I had ever witnessed.

While singing the national anthems, a torrential rain enshrouded Loftus Versfeld followed by a baptism of hail that continued until about 10 minutes into the match. However, the rain never really stopped.

One could draw comparisons in the conditions between both games of this opening round of the Rugby Championship. One would be that the quality of the first game was so much better than that of the second. But another would be that the conditions of the second game were much, much worse.

What the weather did was ruin two good contests. Now we still have absolutely no idea where all four teams stand, what form they are in or who are favourites to win it. These conditions affect the entire dynamic of the game.

But while Australia, New Zealand and Argentina adapted to the situations well, South Africa did not. And this highlights the great flaw in South African Rugby. The lack of a contingency plan.

As strange as it might sound the Springboks went into this game with a bigger attacking mindset than the Tasman teams. Prior to the game the Boks had believed that the conditions would suit a running game. The forecast was clean, the team they had chosen was custom made for a fast game and what Heyneke Meyer had said since last week pointed to an open approach.

The selection of Handre Pollard and Damien de Allende was an attempt to attack. Meyer had said that he was looking to evolve the game his team plays from being physically dominant to being a more skillful unit. They intended to make this first game at altitude a beginning for this new game plan.

But the conditions ruined it and the Boks did not have a back up plan. This in itself requires a lot of thought. The Boks had always been known to be the most structured team in the world, with conditions like these suiting them handsomely.

How then, were they so terrible in this game?

What seems a trademark for South African rugby is the inability to adapt. Here they were trying to employ a more expansive, fast game when their traditional game would have secured victory much easier.

Around halftime the Boks then tried to revert back to their structured style, but they just couldn’t. Even Morne Steyn, who is the master of this style, just could not perform up to standard.

The Boks seem to be in a state of a one-track mind. When a certain pattern is practiced, this pattern is employed with no real backup plan. If it doesn’t work then you keep doing it until it does. When they see it just won’t work then they try to change. But this usually results in them performing much weaker than they did at first.

What Meyer’s men had to do was just do what they do best. Carry up at close range with their big forwards instead of trying to do so out wide. When the platform is laid then you use Steyn to kick for corners.

What the Boks did was kick aimlessly, but they did so because they were on the back foot. They tried to go wide in the beginning and when that didn’t work they tried to keep it structured and to almost no effect.

As furious as I am with this game I try my best to stay objective. The weather was atrocious and playing in that sort of environment is tough, not even the All Blacks nor the Wallabies could score a single try. Yes, the Pumas are a considerably weaker side but the All Blacks and Wallabies both struggled against them at home in tough conditions last year as well.

The quality rugby from South Africa was appalling and deserves all the criticism it receives. But just because they struggled in the storm does not mean they will suffer in dry conditions, and the same applies to their opponents.

You cannot judge the All Blacks’ form by this game and you cannot judge the Wallabies’ or the Springboks’. In the June tests these teams have show what they can do in dry conditions and hopefully we will see that again next weekend.

It was the worst Springboks game I have ever seen, and if they play like that again this season they will lose. Hard words must be spoken as the entire country senses a time of crisis.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2014, 01:29
#2
19 Aug 2014, 01:29#2

The worst Springbok game this dolt has ever watched? Well that confirms it, he thinks like a 12 year old, writes like a 12 year old, and lies like a 12 year old. One minute into the game Pienaar was scoring a well crafted try, but this dolt says: "From the first minute I knew that this was going to be the worst game I had ever witnessed." What a moron.

 

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Aug 2014, 01:29
#3
19 Aug 2014, 01:29#3
This is the same author many of you raved about when I posted an article by him a week or two back. He is a die-hard bock fan. Does he raise a valid point?
Clearly Meyer selected a backline that was built for an expansive game but why could the forwards not deal with the weather conditions and the Argies could. The sight of the Bok pack being man-handled was puzzling. Was it the ref' s fault Beeno
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2014, 01:32
#4
19 Aug 2014, 01:32#4
All I rememb er about almond is he was pretty stupid, confirmed in this article. This is sooo like the OOm it could have been penned by him, but almond has better spellcheck. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Aug 2014, 07:35
#5
19 Aug 2014, 07:35#5
 All I know about this case is that Mozzart was upset over the previous article - since his idol Matfield was mentioned and his true performance record revealed.     Now the man saw the hailstorm and wrote that he expected the worst performance possible.
The performance was the worst in the mind of most people and the reasons were not the ones given by Mo(zart)ron.  Lets start at the back - the Moron blamed De Allende, but fails to recognize that De Villiers were worst than De Allende Same withjh Morne Steyn and Pollard, same with Bakkies Botha and De Jager.   De Villiers did nothing throughout the game, Steyn tried to make sure the Springboks did not win(fortunately he failed),  Bakkies did bugger-all but to lose a line out for the Springboks.   The list goes on and on. 
The moment Mo(zart)ron shows any sign of being rugby literate - we can beieve him as against Van Zyl.   Thus far there is no sign that he shows anything so I go with the sscribe in this c ase.     
TT
The_TruthClub Pro471 posts
19 Aug 2014, 11:02
#6
19 Aug 2014, 11:02#6
 "But while Australia, New Zealand and Argentina adapted to the situations well, South Africa did not. And this highlights the great flaw in South African Rugby. The lack of a contingency plan."

Oh boy! And there was I thinking that South Africa was the only team that actually won on the weekend.

Alternate realities?
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Aug 2014, 11:59
#7
19 Aug 2014, 11:59#7
 Well said the truth. The Boks won a very difficult match in horrendous conditions. I think one must also give credit to the rugged Argies who game is ideally suited to these conditions. I have little doubt the wee abs and wobblies would have lost to the Argies if they had been playing.The Argies pack would have been way too tough for them for these traditional netballers.
Mistakes were made tactically. Too few forwards were committed to rucks and mauls at various points in the game. As Mallet pointed out they did eventually adapt in the lineouts which went better as time passed. They threw the ball more to the front and softer.
Please note Armands comment neither the wobblies or wee abs could score a single try! Bwahahahahahahaha. I magine them trying to cope with this very good Argies pack!!!!!
Armand says its the worst performance from the Boks he has seen. But he also says not much can be read into all this (agreed) given the horrendous conditions. Perhaps the Boks could have adapted better but at least they won. Something neither the wee abs or wobblies could have done under these ircumstances.
Jw I have not complained about the ref but ou hakwa and you kbbs have not ceased to blame poor Jaco for the dismal performance of the outgunned wee abs. The ref was very competent - was he English. Generally the English refs are very fair. Probably because they exported all their convicts to Oz and nz. Hahahahahhahahaha
Get a team JW is the first suggestion I have. Also be very very thankfull you squeaked a draw in a game you should obviously have lost. Oz were the better side - End of story


PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
19 Aug 2014, 11:59
#8
19 Aug 2014, 11:59#8
Worse than the 49-0 drubbing Jake White's team took? Or the embarrassing quarter-final game in the 2003 World Cup under Straeuli, where the All Blacks toyed with us like we were a charity old-boys team and didn't even need more than second gear to beat us handsomely? Everyone has their opinion I guess, but at least in this game we have conditions to blame, and we won.

I agree about the apparent rigidity in the side with regards to adapting to game conditions. Kicking for touch, for example, when you have a penalty almost right in front that can put you 10 points clear is just silly when you're playing in a swimming pool. So too throwing at #2 in the lineout when the Argies already made it clear in the previous lineout that their lineout defense involves a concerted effort to push you into touch. Which they ended up doing .
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Aug 2014, 12:11
#9
19 Aug 2014, 12:11#9
 Yes not taking goal kicks was an error as well in these conditions.However to read some oaks you would think the loosing side played a faultless game.
I am looking for forward to seeing how the Argies go this season. They look like they have amuch better side. A first win is on the cards?
Boks better step it up a few gears next Saturday. Please, pretty please don't play pap victor!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Aug 2014, 13:33
#10
19 Aug 2014, 13:33#10

Beeno: the poor wee Boks managed to get out of that game with a win but if the Argies had one most fair-minded people would have said it was well deserved. Their pack was dominant and their backs innovative.

 

Congrats to the boks on their win against the 12th ranked team who was playing on Bok home ground.

 

Congrats to all kiwi fans who did not pull "a beeno" and while we commented on the refs bad day we did not blame him for the result. 

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