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Coach Erasmus......another pretender or

Started by Denny11 REPLIES627 VIEWS· 27 Sept 2019, 01:15
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:15
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27 Sept 2019, 01:15#1

the real deal? One way or another all will be revealed as the Boks unravel through RWC 2019. The jury might still be out for some but my own view is that he is a pretender.


Jake White was a coach in the moment......Rassie is not. Evidence of this claim is found in the fact that Erasmus stepped onto the world stage with a half baked strategy, wholly defence based and a non-existent attack. He simply didn't get that his backline needed to add potency around a good defence.... one is a necessity as well as the other.


Then there's his selctions. How Brits made the squad is beyond understanding and why versatile Curwin Bosch, a player with natural speed was left off the squad remains a mystery. Bosch, for example, would have been a useful replacement for the hapless Willie Le Roux and at the same time would have added speed to the back three. Bosch behind a solid pack would also have been a good choice as an alternative to Pollard as opposed to the poor man's imitation of Carlos Spencer, schoolboy Elton Jantjies.


Looking at the game against NZ......his substitutions, timing of his substitutions and lack of an earlier response to a gameplan not working strikes me as a deer staring into the headlights kinda scenario. A young and inexperienced Herschelle Jantjies was thrown into the cut and thrust when the Boks were desperately trailing in a game they didn't look like winning and to make matter worse the kid had all of 9 minutes to turn things around. That has to be said was a move in desperation with not a thought around giving the kid a fair chance. Jake always spoke about how youngsters were affected by the occasion of the WC. The stats show that the Boks kicked less than the ABs, the difference though is whereas the AB kicks paid off the mortgage the Boks ballooned theirs, further proof that liabilty Faf should have been an earlier substitution. But then there are other substitutions, puling off Etzebeth and replacing him with another lightweight in Snyman who is then coupled with the tossed about Mostert beggars belief. 


Other than Kolbe there are no reliable bomb diffusers in the back three, another Erasmus oversight, hard to believe but scroll back to Super15 and there are ample examples of how Mampini proved himself clueless under the high ball. One in particular I watched at the ground was the game between the Waratahs and the Sharks. Nkosi in that same game proved himself up to the task so how did Mampini get himself ahead in the pecking order.


I've almost lost complete faith in Erasmus and I hope for the sake of the Boks that he proves me wrong, in the meantime the game against Italy awaits, I expect the Boks to win but it's the how and by how many that interests me.





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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:22
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27 Sept 2019, 01:22#2
Jake White was nothing without Eddie Jones. In the two years leading up to the WC Jakes record was so poor he was on the verge of being sacked Eddie was brought in to save his arse Jake White is not close to being the measure As for Rassie, I’m yet to be convinced but he is already better than the likes of Meyer, de Villiers and Coetzee in terms of impression
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:35
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27 Sept 2019, 01:35#3
Jaques Neighnaber is probably going to take over the Bok head coach job after this world cup. What would Rassie be without him? The Stormers defence, the Munster and now the Boks are built on a solid defence. Given Neighnaber is doing the defence, maybe could get a good attack coach. 
I do think Rassie is a good coach, but a bit puzzled by some of his selections like Flab Malherbe, Mapmipi for Nkosi, geriatric Britz- and then having no Bosch in the squad. 
The up and under tactics are pathetic, but Meyer and Jake White also loved aimless up and unders from first phase
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2019, 01:51
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27 Sept 2019, 01:51#4

Tony Brown in my not so humble opinion would make for an interesting Bok coach. The work he did with the no label Sunwolves was amazing.

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RazorClub Pro150 posts
27 Sept 2019, 02:27
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27 Sept 2019, 02:27#5

Tony Highlanders Brown?

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2019, 02:29
#6
27 Sept 2019, 02:29#6

Yep

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Sept 2019, 06:22
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27 Sept 2019, 06:22#7
The one big thing to Eraser's credit is the players believe in him....in part due to the media. White, PdV, HM and Coetzee were all so pilloried in the media gaining the full confidence of the team was a tough task. Eraser is golden For the rest I can't see anything exceptional....except Nienaber's defence, which is nonetheless high risk. And the offence is the most clueless we have had since 1999 Mallett.....but wearing a bit of lipstick thanks to Kolbe and thanks to the drug regime followed by Dyantyi. Ah but then there is always this...he only had 2 years....hahaha!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Sept 2019, 13:28
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27 Sept 2019, 13:28#8
Forget Tony Brown - the ideal replacement for Rassie would be Scott Robertson of the Crusaders. If it’s home grown it has to be Ackerman
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2019, 14:13
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27 Sept 2019, 14:13#9

Strrzok

Clueless attack scoring near to double the tries scored under Meyer in comparable series.   Look first for cluelessness to Meyer and Coetzee,   and then also De Villiers,   White without Jones were also clueless.   

If you want to use kicking as part and parcel of attacking rugby - the kicks must be accurate and strategic putting recipients under pressure and certainly not aimless,   Under the coaches we had since White kicking is NOT part of an attacking game plan because of inaccurate application and aimlessness,   .  

Insofar as Erasmus is concerned all credit goes to Nienaber - exactly like happened in the case of Ackerman when on this site members claim Swys de Bruin should get the credit,     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Sept 2019, 14:13
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27 Sept 2019, 14:13#10

Strrzok

Clueless attack scoring near to double the tries scored under Meyer in comparable series.   Look first for cluelessness to Meyer and Coetzee,   and then also De Villiers,   White without Jones were also clueless.   

If you want to use kicking as part and parcel of attacking rugby - the kicks must be accurate and strategic putting recipients under pressure and certainly not aimless,   Under the coaches we had since White kicking is NOT part of an attacking game plan because of inaccurate application and aimlessness,   .  

Insofar as Erasmus is concerned all credit goes to Nienaber - exactly like happened in the case of Ackerman when on this site members claim Swys de Bruin should get the credit,     

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Sept 2019, 16:11
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27 Sept 2019, 16:11#11

"Jaques Neighnaber  "







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AJHPro3,183 posts
27 Sept 2019, 16:38
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27 Sept 2019, 16:38#12

The endless debate about the pros and cons about Springbok  coaches will never ever be resolved under the present directive from the ANC.

No present day coach could possibly select 15 players to take to the field with his hands tied as is the case at present until such time as players of merit are selected.

Keep politics out of sport.

All the coaches mentioned have had to undergo this constant barrage of critic and insults from all due to the directive from the government......sure some coaches are better than others but these coaches are all loyal and honest men plying their skills under great pressure from political operatives.


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