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Composing the Sharks backline for Saturday

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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2014, 16:47
#1
21 Jul 2014, 16:47#1

There are a lot of different ways this can go, and I'm sure Jake has his finger on the pulse. I'm guessing the backline will be:

 

Marais, Mvovo, JP, Frans, Sithole, Lambie, McLeod.

 

 

I would be tempted to play;

 

 

Lambie, Chavanga, JP, Jordaan, Sithole, Frans, McLeod.

 

Basically because I fear Mvovo and Marais are going to be very brittle in NZ against the Saders in a big game.  But I must admit Jordaan would have to be a big concern at 12.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
21 Jul 2014, 16:59
#2
21 Jul 2014, 16:59#2
 Chavanga opposite Nadolo? Do you want the Sharks to lose? Hope Steyn learns to tackle within the next 5 days because Carter or Crotty will rinse him otherwise.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2014, 17:19
#3
21 Jul 2014, 17:19#3
Mozart 
Are you somewhat nuts?   Frans Steyn and JP Pietersen at center?   Who will cover for all their missed tackles?   Last week they only made ten tackles - missing 8.  Pietersen is NOT a center - and Frans is a flop at center - the worst defense record of any 12 in Super 15 and also the worst record in attack.   
If White wants to win the game he should play the following backline:-
  15 Marais,  14 Pietersen, 13 Jordaan, 12  Esterhuizen, 11 Chavanga, 10 Lambie, 9 Reinach.
The further the defenseless, attackless Steyn is from the team the better it would be.   As a Shark supporter - I wish him very well in his trip to Japan and hope he will stay ther e and not come back to destroy the Sharks backline.    
When will Steyn start to tackle players?  I suppose his dodgy knee prevent him from being able to tackle more mobile players   Have sympathy wit him - but that is the way it is.   
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Jul 2014, 19:17
#4
21 Jul 2014, 19:17#4
Frans and JP were at centre against the Worlds when you predicted we would lose. And say, wasn't Esterhuizen the chap who missed his man to lose the RWC Junior finals? You are a tonic Oom.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 00:00
#5
22 Jul 2014, 00:00#5
 Mozart
How many tackles did Steyn and Pietersen miss on Saturday?   Be honest now - Steyn's defense is poor - has been throughout the tournament    He has the worst tackle stats of any 12 in any franchise.  In none of the games played Pietersen - who really is a wing and no center - missed less than 20% of his tackle attempts at center.  Was the case in 2012 and is even worse this year.   
Now suddenly - up comes the World team game - we cannot check the stats there now can we?   So what did that prove?   Nothing.
Here Mozart is at work again - he wants to leabe out the try scorer (Reinach)  and the one player who made another try (Jordaan) in the previous Cruisaders- Sharks game out of the team.
For every one tackle Esterhuizen missed - Steyn misses five.   At least Esterhuizen is worth some attacking points bu scoring tries - Steyn is worth ZERO,  You are a tonic Mozart.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 00:13
#6
22 Jul 2014, 00:13#6
Fran's won a senior RWC....Esterhuizen lost a junior RWC.  Take Chabal's advice and let it go.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 01:11
#7
22 Jul 2014, 01:11#7
Mozart
Frans nearly lost the RWC final with a missed tackle on Tate - remember - plus three other missed tackles in the same game.   Take you to be a dunce - you never learn anything about rugby in any event.  
O - I forgot - Frans kicked the one long distance penalty uin the RWC final  - the score was 15 -6 in the end.  If he missed that one it would have been 12-6.   So did he win the WC for us - no he did not - he nearly cost us the WC.

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BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Jul 2014, 01:18
#8
22 Jul 2014, 01:18#8
 Be assured Jake will not start with Cahvanga as his defenc e is none to hot. Best play him off the bench and try and put him into space.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 01:23
#9
22 Jul 2014, 01:23#9
Believe me  Mvovo's defence is no bargain either.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 01:40
#10
22 Jul 2014, 01:40#10
 The only way is to start with Pietersen on the wing - making sure he takes care of Nadolo - both are equally slow in pace - so that may not be too great a problem.
The defense problem will be in the center position - with dodgy knee Steyn missing tackles more than he makes.   
One thing I cannot understand about discussions on this Board is the fact that some players from a defense point of view gets away with murder - while the defense of equally bad in defense of other players is over-looked.   
There are two very similar centers in SA - the one is crucified - the other is praised.   Those are JJ Engellbrecht and Mozart's hero Fransie.   Both have -
*   serious defense deficiencies and have a similar tackling style which  is largely unproductive;*   no attacking clout at all; and*   zero ball sense. .
Engelbrecht has one advantage over Steyn - he is speedy.  Steyn is slow and that account for his poor defense and his serious deficiencies in attacking play.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 02:44
#11
22 Jul 2014, 02:44#11

Sounds like whatever happens Reinach is on the bench:

 

Starting scrumhalf Cobus Reinach has enjoyed a great season but he does have weaknesses, such as his box kicking, and those were exposed against the Highlanders. McLeod, who is on his way to French club Grenoble after Super Rugby, was outstanding against the Stormers in the previous game, and has a tendency to excel in really big matches, such as last year’s Currie Cup final in Cape Town.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 02:54
#12
22 Jul 2014, 02:54#12
 Stupid Mozart
Why no counter-attack?    
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 03:03
#13
22 Jul 2014, 03:03#13
No point....Frans and Alberts will start. Unfortunately Jake is hinting at starting Lambie on the basis of a "calmness he brought to the team". That would be a big mistake. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 09:37
#14
22 Jul 2014, 09:37#14
 Mozart
Lambie will not make aimless kicks handing unhindered possession of the balls to the Crusaders.  His kicks will be strategic and recipients under pressure - as against the kicks of Steyn that merely represent posession handovers.
I think White - more than anybody else - realizes that Steyn is not a flyhalf and he tried repeatedly not to use him at flyhalf.   He kicked when the balls should be kept in hand - and made skip passes when ordinary passes were necessary -  all signs of a manufactured flyhalf clueless about reading of  games and on decision making.
I also think that White realizes that he cannot play Steyn and Pietersen together as centers.     Lets face facts - individually they have serious defense deficiencies - together they would be a defensive sieve.   If Jordaan was not at center on Saturday - to make the tackles Steyn and Pietersen missed  on at least two occasions and stopped  at least another try when the ball was kicked ahead by the Highlanders - the game would have been lost. 
The end result will probably be that Steyn is played at center - and then the question will remains - what will he achieve in that position?   His efforts were virtually all negative this year when he played at 12.   Mindlessly ambling towards the first opposition defender and crashballing were all he achieved at 12.  Losing more ball possession than any other center and no space creation for other players sums it up 100%.   That plus a very negative missed tackle ratio of about 26% makes him more of a liability than an asset.                    I accept he will be the no 12 center - but expect anything positive from him as well.   One can only hope that he would not foul up too much and neutralizes the backline completely.    




 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
22 Jul 2014, 11:21
#15
22 Jul 2014, 11:21#15
If White wants to win the game he should play the following backline:-
  15 Marais,  14 Pietersen, 13 Jordaan, 12  Esterhuizen, 11 Chavanga, 10 Lambie, 9 Reinach.

Fully agree on this...too late in trying to be too smart....more confidence in players with JP in his rightful position and experience and yes Lambie at 10 if you are going to win without going down lottery road!

Trying to be fancy makes as much as an atheist saying RIP to a departed

 
JE
JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
22 Jul 2014, 12:47
#16
22 Jul 2014, 12:47#16

The have sharks advanced to the semis with the current backline. Why change the backline if the sharks have won the previous matches with the current backline? I think Jake is adamant about making any changes to the backline, rightfully so. He should stick to what has been working best for the team. Personally I hope the overrated Lambie remains on the bench.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jul 2014, 14:38
#17
22 Jul 2014, 14:38#17

Well its pretty well documented that Lambie improved the Sharks backline when he came on at 10, hardly surprising given Frans is not a 10.

 

Jake has intimated Lambie will start at 10 and rightly so  

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
22 Jul 2014, 16:22
#18
22 Jul 2014, 16:22#18
 If this was Meyer picking the side I would have said all the oldies will go first, but since its Jake, it is much harder. 
I think that he would opt for 
9. Mcloud 10. Lambie11. Mvovo12. Steyn13. Jordaan14. Pietersen15. SP Marais
I think that he will try and match JP against Ndolo the big Fijian winger. That said, jake has a real chance to probably create the fastest back line in Super rugby. 
He could opt for
15 Mvovo14 Sithole13 Pietersen12 Jordaan11 Chavanga10 Lambie9 Reinach. 
Other than Lambie, real pace merchants. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 17:01
#19
22 Jul 2014, 17:01#19
Actually what improved the Sharks backline was the substitution of McLoud for Reinach....but let's not get in the way of the fantasy that Reinach is a test calibre scrummie.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 17:43
#20
22 Jul 2014, 17:43#20
 Actually what should happen to the Sharks backline is that Steyn should be moved to full back - if played at all - but he is likely be too slow to be effective in that position.  That would  improve the backline performance of the Sharks massively - both in defense and attack.
Steyn cannot bugger up as badly at full back as he does at center.   When saying the above - I take into account that he is the worst attacking and defendibng no 12 in all Super 15 teams this year.   Mozart refuses to analyse the stats - because that would be proven as well statistically.    
The general consensus of opinion is that the Sharks game plan is so limited that they cannot compete with the Crusaders and that with that being the position, changes are necessary.   To change that scenario - you have to make a major change to eliminate the backline malfunctioning for which Steyn is directly responsible.
Mozart's campaign against Reinach is based on his normal misinformation.   McCleod has buggered up badly in many matches h played in and is not really a realistic option.                 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jul 2014, 17:51
#21
22 Jul 2014, 17:51#21

Ah yeah Moz gets it right again

 

"Lambie has been out of rugby for four months with a torn bicep but he fitted seamlessly back into the team at a critical stage of the play-off match. Not only does he look the part at flyhalf, Steyn also looks better at inside centre than he does at pivot, where again he was exposed at the weekend. Moving Steyn back to the midfield, with Paul Jordaan going to outside centre and JP Pietersen, who struggled defensively against the Highlanders, shifting back to wing, might well be the way for the Sharks to go against the Crusaders.

And Lambie’s big match temperament, which did come through in those last minutes against the Highlanders, could be crucial to the Sharks’ chances if White decides to pick him. White spoke last week of the calmness that Lambie brings to those around him, and apparently it was added to the mix again in the last quarter at Kings Park, which was when the Sharks effectively won the match" - Gavin Rich

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 18:02
#22
22 Jul 2014, 18:02#22
 Just a pity Dave you didn't produce the whole quote.....lying by omission is still lying Davey Boy

Starting scrumhalf Cobus Reinach has enjoyed a great season but he does have weaknesses, such as his box kicking, and those were exposed against the Highlanders. McLeod, who is on his way to French club Grenoble after Super Rugby, was outstanding against the Stormers in the previous game, and has a tendency to excel in really big matches, such as last year’s Currie Cup final in Cape Town.

So when White speaks about improved linking between backs and forwards, it could well be an indication that the Sharks will have a new halfback pairing in Christchurch. Not that he was giving too much away on Saturday night.

“I will have to sit down and think about it and can’t commit myself now,” he said.

Lambie has been out of rugby for four months with a torn bicep but he fitted seamlessly back into the team at a critical stage of the play-off match. Not only does he look the part at flyhalf, Steyn also looks better at inside centre than he does at pivot, where again he was exposed at the weekend. Moving Steyn back to the midfield, with Paul Jordaan going to outside centre and JP Pietersen, who struggled defensively against the Highlanders, shifting back to wing, might well be the way for the Sharks to go against the Crusaders.

And Lambie’s big match temperament, which did come through in those last minutes against the Highlanders, could be crucial to the Sharks’ chances if White decides to pick him. White spoke last week of the calmness that Lambie brings to those around him, and apparently it was added to the mix again in the last quarter at Kings Park, which was when the Sharks effectively won the match

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jul 2014, 18:10
#23
22 Jul 2014, 18:10#23
What the fuck you on about.....I am talking about Steyn vs Lambie.......the rest of the quote has fuck all to do with them - wake up  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 18:11
#24
22 Jul 2014, 18:11#24
 Saffex
Lambie is the way to go.   Mozart wants Francois Steyn and Pietesen at center if Steyn is not to be the flyhalf.   That would be a fiasco - considering that both failed miserably in defense last Saturday. The two made 10 tackles and missed 8.  Jordaan had to cover his own tackles and made those missed by the other two as well.   Mozart obviously does not want Jordaan in the backline.
The problem with Steyn at flyhalf is the kicking he does out of hand.   Kicking should be strategic and recipients should be under pressure when catching the ball.   The moment Lambie came on on Saturday the kicking game changed.  Lambie kicked twice and the recipients were under so much pressure - they buggered up badly.   In none of the Steyn kicks that happened - but that is of course not noted by Mozart and Doffies. 
The performance of Steyn at 12 this year was also problematic - he had the worst attacking and defensive record of all 12's n the competition.   I am saying this I want to refer you to what you said in a response to the issue of coaches needing coaching.   I cannot agree more with you about the issue of the coaching on running into space - etc.   Problem is that Steyn never runs into space - he runs straight at the first defender and is very predictable.   That is why I have said I would rather see Esterhuizen than him in the backline on Saturday.         
 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 18:12
#25
22 Jul 2014, 18:12#25
Of course the Lambie hype is total nonsense. He was on for 13 minutes during which Fransie kicked two penalties....Lambie ran for 3 metres and kicked one up and under that was too short. Rich is the worst.....another Watson fan.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 Jul 2014, 18:17
#26
22 Jul 2014, 18:17#26
No Moffie, Rich saw it as it was - Frans is not a 10 never has been, get over it.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jul 2014, 18:36
#27
22 Jul 2014, 18:36#27
 Mozart
Don't start with your disinformation again.  Lambie made two strategic kicks and both presented problems for the recipients.    That up and unders were just the right distance to cause  serious problems for the recipients.  Steyn's kicks were BS - aimless  handovers in possession and leading to counter-attacks by the Highlanders.
Kicks made by Steyn is too far to be effectively followed up by players - and they just cause problems for his own team in defense.  
However, it serves no purpose to discuss this type of thing with you - you just do not comprehend what the results have been in this case.  The Watson thing has nothing to do with the present scenario - get over it.   
I must agree with Saffex - Steyn is not a flyhalf - - but then - is he really a center?   Go and study his stats and see why I doubt his capacity for that as well.     

GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
22 Jul 2014, 19:43
#28
22 Jul 2014, 19:43#28
When Lambie kicks it has purpose...I wouldn't mind so much Frans @ 10 if he didn't kick so many mindless purposeless kicks.

Stupid kicks give Shark supporters a permanent tremor in their hands and sleepless nights...one stupid kick and a whole years work is flushed down the toilet...it's happened too frequently...just the other day...Charl's action allowed Stormer Taute a last second drop kick...I still have a permanent twitch in my eye from...lolz...actually not so funny.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Jul 2014, 20:01
#29
22 Jul 2014, 20:01#29
 Basjan, Lambie is good, but by no means the finished article at 10...yet. It would be a bit risky to start him at 10, without Fransie at 12, in such an importand game. It would have been fine if he had a couple of games under the belt, but not with only a few minutes. An in form Crusaders team at home in a play off match is more difficult than most test matches.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
22 Jul 2014, 20:08
#30
22 Jul 2014, 20:08#30
 Bambie off the bench at best for the last 5 minutes of the game.
Sorry. But I have no confidence in either Bambie or "Doof" Jannie du Plessis.
Do like the strength of Thomas du Toit though. For a 19 year old he has unbelievable strength.
Proof will be on the game against the Crusaders. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 22:19
#31
22 Jul 2014, 22:19#31
But Seb  if you look at the penalty Bambie kicked it went about 20 metres. Frans was drilling them 45 metres. I'll take the 250 metres we gain over the 10 kicks Frans gets right, for the 20 metres  we lose when he gets it wrong.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
22 Jul 2014, 22:39
#32
22 Jul 2014, 22:39#32
Crikey, some of you have got memories like sieves...cannot remember what happened a few weeks ago let alone 7 years ago...bloody hell keep kicking games away Sharks even finals with a few seconds to go...like Alan Donald's blunder in cricket world cup...there is no excuse for this...champions not only have skills but mental strengths and control of the mind to do sensible things...kicking the ball senselessly or nervously doesnt belong to champions no matter what talent is there...this belongs to boys playing in their backyards...it's time to get strong and play like men...champion men!

In case some of you cannot remember 2007, here it is (this is the main example but there have been several other incidents )

With four minutes remaining Sharks lock Johann Muller won a lineout 25 metres from the Bulls' line. The Sharks then mauled for before it maul collapsed three metres from the Bulls line. After four phases of driving play Van den Berg drove past Danie Rossouw and Derick Kuün to score a try for the Sharks. Steyn then missed the conversion; the Sharks now led 19-13. The Bulls then needed to score a converted try to win the match, and with only a few minutes remaining of regular time they started attacking expansively. In the 79th minute Gary Botha grubber kicked the ball from inside Bulls territory to within the Sharks 22-metre line. François Steyn collected the ball but did not kick out, and instead kicked down field where the ball was collected by Bulls' captain Victor Matfield. The Bulls spread the ball, and went through several phases until it reached winger Bryan Habana near the right touchline. Habana jinked back infield and ran through a gap in the Sharks' defence before scoring a try five metres to right of the goal-posts. The 83rd minute try was then converted by Hougaard to give the Bulls' a 20-19 victory.






MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jul 2014, 23:47
#33
22 Jul 2014, 23:47#33
 Ag ou Chabal, you are digging into history. How about the Stormers, the Highlanders? But just to add balance, here is something more recent, Wales vs Boks last year :

61 min Drop goal attempt from Lambie... Has it got the legs? No. The SA full-back was a long, long way out. Ambitious. The Boks have a better chance now though with Falletau penalised for going in at the side of a ruck just inside the Wales half. Step forward again Mr Lambie. And it hasn't got the legs again! Get in the gym and pack some more power my son. Penalty wasted.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jul 2014, 00:30
#34
23 Jul 2014, 00:30#34
 Hell
This lot tarted with Mozart's twisted idea about a Sharks backline for Saturday.  Lambie is being bombarded about what happened years ago.  But then we have the misfit who is definitely not a flyhalf  on Saturday missing kicks at goal and missing tackles galore - but he is acceptable.    He is the one that should be at flyhalf - where he wasted possession away like it is unbelievable and sabotaged backline play all year long.
It seems to me that unfortunately it would not even help to analyze the stats of Steyn again - since Mozart would just not believe how bad his idol really was.   The problem is that Steyn played in teh WC in 2007 and therefore can do no wrong - his present deficient performances are therefore counting for nothing.    So here we have a case where the present means nothing and the past everything.   What a way to evaluate player performances.   The result is twisted as the case is with all Mozart's player evaluations.   
I still believe that the only way for the Sharks to have a functional backline is to leave Steyn out of the backline - after all Plumtree was right last year.  The man is not a center - and it was conclusively proved this year  that he definitely is not a flyhalf.   Maybe his absence in Japan in the CC will finally open White's eyes as to what is really going on.       
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jul 2014, 00:50
#35
23 Jul 2014, 00:50#35
Oom time for the fingers again....take away four fingers and what do we have left....yep that greasy old thumb. Count it....do you get one? 
Now try the same thing taking 2013 away from 2014... Yep you get one again. That's how long ago I am talking about. In fact four months less than one.

Sebastian  was talking about years ago, but he was supporting your case for Lambie....you dumb plank. Talk about stoopid.




 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jul 2014, 01:29
#36
23 Jul 2014, 01:29#36
Mozart 
What are you on about - I was talking about last Saturday - you really are a plank - as thick as possible.
I went to refer you to the fact that Plumtree said last year that Steyn is NOT a center and he would use him as a full back in future.  Fat and useless and slow he was last year and that tells the story.   What was he like this year in Super 15 - fo back and study the stats again - he was slow with a dodgy knee making him even more useless than he was last year.
He is not a center and the stats prove that conclusively.   So is he a flyhalf - definitely not - because he cannot read games and he does not know when to pass and when to kick balls.    His stats reads like a nightmare -
*   the worst defensive stats of any no 12 in Super 15;*   the only 12 in Super 15 that managed one line break in all the matches he played as 12;*   the worst possession losses of all 12's;*   the worst penalty donator of all 12's
At 10 his defense was even worse than at 13 and his attacking play was - bar one accidental line brealk stemming from an error by Crotty - was the only shining star ibn a otherwise atrocious performance throughout the year.   
The rugby mystery of the year is why White sticks with this guy - no other coach will put up with him.   Meyer would definitely not and the fact that his latest hissy fit happened - is a real blessing insofar as the Springbok team is concerned.
With him in the backline on Saturday is a guarantee that - like all year long - the Sharks backline will malfunction.  I always feel sorry for Jordaan who must keep up with this misfit on his inside.  When he missed tackles - Jordaan must cover for him - He is too slow and  when he sometimes make passes to other backline players it often enough happens to be skip passes directly to the full back because of that speed deficiency.  The centers cannot wait long enough for him to pass a ball in case he does after hesitation decides to pass balls.   
If you really analyze his play objectively you will not write the twaddle you come up now - but your player assessments  are so twisted - it can only be what is expected from a rugby illiterate.            
JE
JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
27 Jul 2014, 05:58
#37
27 Jul 2014, 05:58#37

This topic was made before the spectacle and I noticed how ridiculous some of these posts were at the time and even more absurd after the match.

I'm not sure why some have such low expectations surrounding Frans Steyn at fly half when he has in fact proved that he can fit into that position well and win matches in that position. In the earlier stages in the Super 15 Frans Steyn was one of the key players in the Sharks vs Crusaders match on 17th May 2014, Sharks won the match away with Frans Steyn at flyhalf. In comparison with Lambie's performance vs Crusaders in the semi final Lambie played bad in general kicking and he was the culprit for most of the problems in the match itself. 

The concern leading up to the semi final for me was Lambie hasn't had enough game to be in the starting spot at flyhalf, he has had a limited amount of time in the highlanders match and hasn't played in weeks up until that point. It is evident that Lambie can't control the game well most of the time and is a over hyped player that is overrated.

Saff, Seb and Mike Sorry you need to rethink about the issue.

NT
ntangaClub Pro336 posts
27 Jul 2014, 12:07
#38
27 Jul 2014, 12:07#38
 ozart

Status: Hall Of Fame
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July 22, 2014, 21:47:58  Ag ou Chabal, you are digging into history. How about the Stormers, the Highlanders? But just to add balance, here is something more recent, Wales vs Boks last year:

61 min Drop goal attempt from Lambie... Has it got the legs? No. The SA full-back was a long, long way out. Ambitious. The Boks have a better chance now though with Falletau penalised for going in at the side of a ruck just inside the Wales half. Step forward again Mr Lambie. And it hasn't got the legs again! Get in the gym and pack some more power my son. Penalty wasted.










You had me in stitches Moz, you gotta love the banter on here.  


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