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Concerns for Stephanie.....evaporate

Started by Mozart30 REPLIES693 VIEWS· 30 Apr 2019, 18:21
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2019, 18:21
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30 Apr 2019, 18:21#1
When Stephanie got dominated by RG on the kickoff last Saturday and embarrassingly was dumped by the jumper....he was hurt. Not surprising when the bigger man falls on you. No doubt the chap was hurt.....but not that badly as I pointed out. Nobody with a serious shoulder injury swings his arms as he walks down the tunnel. This incident mostly occurred because Stephanie bottled out on the jump with RG coming at him with pace. But never mind old Steph will be back against the inappropriately named Crusaders. And he'll make 30 runs for 25 metres and 30 process tackles and the cameras will be drawn to the favourite son....and the media will just love him All will be well, I promise.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Apr 2019, 18:36
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30 Apr 2019, 18:36#2

Moz, I like RG, but he didn't dominate anyone ..and as much as I like Thor, he was nowhere either. It could have gone either way, but my WP won, with all your pet hates included....not that good a game of rugga actually. Pollard was meh too.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Apr 2019, 19:30
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30 Apr 2019, 19:30#3

Cape Town - Pieter-Steph du Toit produced a remarkable feat when he was named the SA Rugby Player of the Year for 2018 on Thursday, marking the second time in three years that the athletic Springbok forward scooped the top award in South African rugby

Need one say more. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:03
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30 Apr 2019, 20:03#4
Hahahaha.....no puleeze, he joins the ranks of Luke the Puke....say less. A small dominated lock or if you prefer a busy slow loosie.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:03
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30 Apr 2019, 20:03#5
RG dominated Draad.....take it from me.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:13
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30 Apr 2019, 20:13#6

He had a few prominent contributions ...and some bloopers. Very average performance from him. The flanker playing lock for WP was better. RG would be my pick to partner Eben, but let's not get carried away by his latest performance. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:34
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30 Apr 2019, 20:34#7

Mozart

You really must be very disappointed about this news 0 I was afraid that you may have a prejudie seizure when it becomes known,   Was really worried about you 

Easy to claim Snyman dominated anyone ibn the game on Saturday,   At lock there was one dominant player and that was Wiese,    

Start thinking before you write BS on site, please.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:34
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30 Apr 2019, 20:34#8
RGs very few mistakes were errors of commission.....trying to make something happen. Some of his offloads were sublime...a few were too ambitious. But there is no forward in SA that offloads better.....certainly not the slow poke from Riebeeck West, who dies with the ball every time. Throw off the blinkers Draad....nothing Stephanie does couldn't be done as well or better by others.....he just gets the privilege of doing it all the time. I'm not getting carried away....we have seen this mix of good and bad things from Snyman before. But he took a kickoff from the opposition, made some good metres and was untroubled in the lineouts while taking an opposition ball.....that against the supposedly international class Snickerling. Give me players who want compete every time....caution can easiliy be instilled.....combativeness is in the genes.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:42
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30 Apr 2019, 20:42#9

"RGs very few mistakes were errors of commission"  - but for that you must know the rules of the game,  Does he?

Sure - I agree with you about platers who compete in games and just wonder why you always favour players who do not compete or if they do are active not more than 20% in games>      


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:42
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30 Apr 2019, 20:42#10

"RGs very few mistakes were errors of commission"  - but for that you must know the rules of the game,  Does he?

Sure - I agree with you about play ers who compete in games and just wonder why you always favour players who do not compete or if they do are active not more than 20% in games>      


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:45
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30 Apr 2019, 20:45#11
'Platers'....do you need a good meal again Mike?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:49
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30 Apr 2019, 20:49#12

Thanks for correcting my typing error/    Had excellent chicken curry tonight - thank you.  

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Apr 2019, 20:56
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30 Apr 2019, 20:56#13

Moz, like I said, ATM RG and PSDT are not in competition with each other ...both are fine players...you seem to be looking for any negative on PSDT....he is an effort player who has the ability to lift the players around him...he has an AB scalp in NZ...he is part of a special team that is in it's infancy of development. ..he is still young...

BTW, RG is competing for Mosterdt's spot, not for PSDT's...you are aware of that?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2019, 21:02
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30 Apr 2019, 21:02#14
Nice one Mike, one of the great things in RSA is the influence of the Indians and Malays on the cuisine. Hope you had some coconut, bananas and Mrs Balls' with your curry.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 May 2019, 08:34
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01 May 2019, 08:34#15

Of course.

Do you know the origin of the impact of  the Malays on SA cooking of food?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2019, 14:32
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01 May 2019, 14:32#16
Malaysia?
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
01 May 2019, 14:33
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01 May 2019, 14:33#17
LMAO!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 May 2019, 13:34
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02 May 2019, 13:34#18
Wow Moz you really do speak a load of horseshit at times. So Steph is a small lock at 2m and 120kg, what does that make powder puff Mostert then? One thing you will NEVER see from Steph is bottling it, it’s just not in his DNA. RG dominating him - what kak Steph is constantly one of our best forwards week after week. Always makes metres with ball in hand through traffic. He imposes himself physically. Has to be one of the first names on the Bok teamsheet along with Marx
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
02 May 2019, 13:53
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02 May 2019, 13:53#19
Saffex, you should know the drill by now . . . Moffie takes a disliking to a certain player - usually because me or ou Maaik say something positive about him - and from then on it becomes Moffie's mission to trash that player at every possible opportunity. The Servile Gimps then jump onto the bandwagon and before you know it, the player's name and reputation are in tatters on this forum and anyone who dares to say anything positive about the player gets hounded by Moffie and the Gimps and branded as fool who doesn't know what he's talking about.
It's nothing short of pathetic and we've seen it with countless players including Jaque Fourie, Pat Lambie, Marcell Coetzee,  Pieter-Steph du Toit and more recently the Du Preez twins.
I'm quite sure that this is the only rugby message board in the world where 2 time SA Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit gets rubbished as a useless player.
Just take it from whence it comes . . . an ignorant rugby noob with the emotional maturity of a 5 year old who can't recognise rugby talent and who can't ever admit he's wrong about anything.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 May 2019, 14:01
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02 May 2019, 14:01#20
I think Moz watches a different game to the rest of us. Steph is not only one of our best players he is one of the best players in the game.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2019, 15:01
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02 May 2019, 15:01#21
Drone on Dave.....Stephanie is not a good ball carrier, he rarely beats a tackle. And he is an average phase defender. The number of runs and the number of tackle attempts are often cited....but the tackle success ratio and metres made are distinctly ordinary. What's worse is for a supposedly athletic lock.....he is a pretty poor lineout forward, and a worse lineout caller. But answer this, do you really think Stephanie should be the Bok blindside, have you changed your mind?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 May 2019, 17:34
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02 May 2019, 17:34#22

Balls and balls continue

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2019, 17:59
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02 May 2019, 17:59#23
Hahaha....mostly lack of balls when he saw RG Snyman coming right at him.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 May 2019, 18:05
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02 May 2019, 18:05#24

Mozart

Maybe I put the question rather vaguely.   In the 17th century the Dutch occupied parts of Indonesia and Malaysia  and dealt with local opposition by sending them to the Cape.  They were parceled out to wealthier residents as slaves and used in the main as cooks in their kitchens.   Any wiser now about the background why the Cape cooking was based on so many spice varieties, .   


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2019, 18:13
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02 May 2019, 18:13#25
Does it taste any better knowing that?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 May 2019, 19:23
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02 May 2019, 19:23#26

Yes - because they taught the locals about the art of cooking decent meals  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2019, 19:26
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02 May 2019, 19:26#27
Just pulling your leg Mike.....my daughter recently made Bobotie and melktert for some American friends who were watching the Masters. A huge success with one fellow saying it was the tastiest food he'd ever had.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 May 2019, 20:36
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02 May 2019, 20:36#28

She should start a Business in the USA and would be hugely rich soon.   LOL

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2019, 21:16
#29
02 May 2019, 21:16#29
Not a bad idea!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 May 2019, 21:36
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02 May 2019, 21:36#30
Moz virtually every time Steph takes contact he breaches the advantage line and carries the momentum forward - that is a fact. Just what you want from a lock or blindside. Your take is prejudicial bullshit. His defence is amongst the best. Given his count every game of course he will miss the odd one. As for his line out work it’s as good as any other lock out there. No I would not play him at flank I’d play him at lock. But I’d rather see him at 7 than some of the calls made by our Bok coaches recently. For me he is too big and not athletic enough for flank, evidenced by those odd miss tackles where he over commits and is not athletic enough to change his direction to make that hit. But it happens less and less with him. The positives he brings to any side he plays for far outweigh his lack of athleticism at 7. Funny thing is that lack of athleticism is excusable when he plays at lock. Steph is a class act one of the best in the business. Give me Steph over any NH lock or Oz or Argie lock, he is one of the best in the game.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2019, 00:01
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03 May 2019, 00:01#31
Well the numbers don't back up your perceptions Dave. Stephanie has 15% more runs than any open side flank (where he is categorized because of our numbering system).....but is only 10th in clean breaks and 4th in defenders beaten. And if you compare him to blindside flanks....the right comparison.....he has also made more runs than any blindsider, but is only 7th in defenders beaten and 14th in clean breaks. He is also 3rd in terms of handling errors and in terms of turnovers conceded, but only 18th in terms of offloads even though he had the ball in his hands more than any other flank! The facts are very clear, Stephanie hogs the ball but is poor in terms of ball protection, clean breaks and defenders beaten. A total cul-de-sac.
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