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Could combining the Cheetahs and lions work bette rths itime around

Started by Beeno19 REPLIES229 VIEWS· 15 Mar 2012, 02:00
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Mar 2012, 16:27
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15 Mar 2012, 16:27#1

I am not in any way mooting this as a desirable option. The option fo me is the queens earn their stripes to play in the Super 15 firstly by earning a spot in the Currie Cup and then progressing to challange the other sides and be at least better than the leoopards, pumas and Griquas. That should ltake them till the end of the current Supe 15 contracts etc.

However i ask this as a theoretical question simply because the playing styles of the Cheetahs and Lions have become very similar. No clash of style here as there was in the past.

These are our two most mecurial sides. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Mar 2012, 16:43
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15 Mar 2012, 16:43#2

Well if you took the Lions as the core team.....what would the Cheetahs add? Goosen is the only Cheetahs back who looks like a top class talent, but the Lions aleady have Jantjies. Strauss for sure, Brussouw for sure......but who else?

 

The fact is the Cheetahs don't really strengthen the Lions, they don't have the talent. So the combination loses more by confusion than it gains by talent.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Mar 2012, 16:52
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15 Mar 2012, 16:52#3

Well remarkably the Lions only scraped a win against the Cheetahs. Cheetahs were not on song either plus an away game.

Dont for get about Depth. Lions are thin in depth. From the Cheetahs there is Coenie, WP Nel, Ashley, Eberson, Daniller and their new find Willie le Roux as well as Strauss, Brussouw and Goosen.   That is collectively a very significant addition to the Lions squad surely!

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Mar 2012, 17:04
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15 Mar 2012, 17:04#4

Hasbeen, I'm not saying that nothing is added. But if you take the Lions core team.....very little is added. One would think there would be great synergy, but counter intuitively there isn't.

 

Amazingly though, if you combined the Sharks and Stormers you gain a lot. Aplon, Jean,De Jongh, Bekker, Schalk, Etzebeth would all add enormously to the Sharks. It would seem there is more synergy in combining our better teams than our weaker sides. Who would have thunk  it?

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
15 Mar 2012, 18:14
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15 Mar 2012, 18:14#5

Combination of the two is unacceptable. I agree with you Moz. It would be fantastic if our Super ruby sides pulled out of the Super XV and gave SARU the massive kick up the backside that it has needed for many years!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Mar 2012, 11:26
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16 Mar 2012, 11:26#6

Apart from a few oaks in PE nobody wants the queens taking away a spot from the Lions or Cheetahs.

Moz the simple fact is that if  selectors sat down to select a squad out of the Lions and Cheetahs a large number of Cheetahs players would be chosen. The squad would be hugely strengthened in terms of depth.

We all know however there are a host of other issues. This was a theoretical query based on styles of rugby which I contend have become very similar.

 

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UsernamePro1,098 posts
16 Mar 2012, 17:09
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16 Mar 2012, 17:09#7

It just doesn't work. In theory it gives greater depth, but it doesn't do anything to improve either side. It's one big conflicting mess; something already proven emphatically. Why repeat the sae mistake. At least a Stormers/Sharks merger would remedy each sides vulnerabilities.

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sitting bullClub Pro170 posts
17 Mar 2012, 10:05
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17 Mar 2012, 10:05#8

..cross species breeding is not recommended..

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Mar 2012, 13:44
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17 Mar 2012, 13:44#9

 Let me guess - sitting bull, you are all of 45 years of age??

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sitting bullClub Pro170 posts
18 Mar 2012, 00:58
#10
18 Mar 2012, 00:58#10

..haha sitting bull loves guessing games...sitting bull play game and give clue... sitting bull born 1831 haha

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