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Could some kiwis please give us an "informed opion about the Lions versus highlanders

Started by Beeno115 REPLIES590 VIEWS· 12 Jun 2017, 10:26
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Jun 2017, 10:26
#1
12 Jun 2017, 10:26#1
clash to morrow. Do you think the hapless Highlanders stand a chance?  I see the Lions play the Maori All Blacks on Saturday. The Maori players look mostly white to me. Whats going on here kbbs? Seems like the genuine Maoris are getting a raw deal!!!!!!
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Jun 2017, 10:53
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12 Jun 2017, 10:53#3
 ...Bean Brain...not looking good for the Landers....they will be without their Maori AB players, and also without their AB players..then there is also injuries to other key players....
So more or less a B team playing a Lions midweek B team...i would have to say the smart money is on the Lions...players like Naholo , Sopoaga and TeVita Li for the Highlanders could make things interesting all the same...
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Jun 2017, 10:55
#4
12 Jun 2017, 10:55#4
 Lineups...
Highlanders: 15 Richard Buckman, 14 Waisake Naholo, 13 Malakai Fekitoa, 12 Teihorangi Walden, 11 Tevita Li, 10 Lima Sopoaga, 9 Kayne Hammington, 8 Luke Whitelock (c), 7 Dillon Hunt, 6 Gareth Evans, 5 Jackson Hemopo, 4 Alex Ainley, 3 Siate Tokolahi, 2 Liam Coltman, 1 Daniel Lienert-Brown

Replacements: 16 Greg Pleasants-Tate, 17 Aki Seiuli, 18 Siosuia Halanukonuka, 19 Josh Dickson, 20 Jimmy Lentjes, 21 Josh Renton, 22 Marty Banks, 23 Patrick Osborne



British and Irish Lions: 15 Jared Payne, 14 Jack Nowell, 13 Jonathan Joseph, 12 Robbie Henshaw, 11 Tommy Seymour, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Rhys Webb, 8 CJ Stander, 7 Sam Warburton (c), 6 James Haskell, 5 Iain Henderson, 4 Courtney Lawes, 3 Kyle Sinckler, 2 Rory Best, 1 Joe Marler
Replacements: 16 Ken Owens, 17 Jack McGrath, 18 Dan Cole, 19 Alun Wyn Jones, 20 Justin Tipuric, 21 Greig Laidlaw, 22 Owen Farrell, 23 Elliot Daly

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Jun 2017, 11:03
#5
12 Jun 2017, 11:03#5
 So precisely who are they really missing Brycy.
You had better read these comments:

Wellington - The British and Irish Lions took a big morale boost from their win over the Christchurch-based Crusaders last weekend but need to keep that feeling alive on Tuesday when they play the Dunedin-based Highlanders in their fourth tour match. 

A 12-3 win over a Crusaders team which was unbeaten in 14 Super Rugby matches this season was seen by the Lions as a validation of their playing style and a stinging riposte to critics who had written them off after their stumbling start to the New Zealand tour. (Dr Moz is still ecovering from his premature remaks!)

Coach Warren Gatland was quick to claim that the win over the Crusaders, by four penalty goals to one, was evidence that the Lions are on track to stretch New Zealand in the impending three-Test series. 

As an affirmation of the things the Lions are trying to achieve on tour, Gatland said, "the result was more important than the performance." The win was also an endorsement of Gatland's selection which saw the first outing on tour for a line-up of near test-strength. 

Tuesday's match will allow a handful of players to push their case for Test selection before Gatland gives his full Test line-up a run against the New Zealand Maori in Rotorua on Saturday. 

The Lions have emphasized the importance of not losing momentum achieved against the Crusaders or falling away from the form benchmark. 

Both of those things could happen if the Lions do not treat the Highlanders match with caution. On paper, the home team does not seem to pose a major threat, missing at least nine players who were recently named in the All Blacks or New Zealand Maori squads. 

The Highlanders lineup contains only two current All Blacks - flyhalf Lima Sopoaga and wing Waisake Naholo, and a few such as centre Malakai Fekitoa who narrowly missed selection for the Lions series.

But the Highlanders, who won nine straight matches in Super Rugby this season before losing to the Crusaders, have developed a neat ability to play well in the absence of their stars. 

Backrower Luke Whitelock, who will captain the Highlanders against the Lions only three days after his brother Sam captained the Crusaders, says his team will throw everything at the tourists.

"You don't want to die wondering and think 'what if?'" Whitelock said. "You've just got to go out there and express yourself and get stuck into it really." 

The Lions will be aiming to improve on their record of having scored only two tries in their three tour matches to date - one each in their 13-7 win over the Provincial Barbarians and their 22-16 loss to the Blues. 

The Lions went tryless and held the Crusaders tryless in Saturday's match, leaving a target for Gatland's critics who say the tourists' lack of try-scoring ability is of concern. 

But Gatland rejected those suggestions, emphasizing the Lions' ability to shut down a team that had averaged five tries per game in Super Rugby this season. He was happy with many aspects of the Lions' attacking game in Christchurch, especially their use of accurate kicking to get in behind the Crusaders defensive line. 

"We got in behind (the Crusaders), we made 13 line breaks, I didn't see any negative rugby," Gatland said. "I saw some positive rugby, players moving the ball to try and stress them. I was pleased with that and we will continue to do that." 

Scotland wing Tommy Seymour said he doesn't believe the Lions lack composure in finishing. 

"I don't think it's nerves or a frantic nature," he said. "We know things we're going to correct. I have no doubt this group of players will find rhythm and once we do (it'll) be happy days."

Brycy its nervous times for the wee abs as the Lions gather strength.!!!

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Jun 2017, 16:09
#6
12 Jun 2017, 16:09#6
 Will the loss to the Lions d ent the Saders confidence? I know 50 million people who hope it will ;)
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,259 posts
12 Jun 2017, 16:16
#7
12 Jun 2017, 16:16#7
The Crusaders getting beat by the Lions has put perspective on things.
1. The Lions are not as useless as initially seemed.
2. The Crusaders could only score 3 points against the Lions- which raises questions about SuperRugby defences.
3. Not sure yet
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Jun 2017, 16:39
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12 Jun 2017, 16:39#8
 "3. Not sure yet"

Lol
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Jun 2017, 11:43
#9
13 Jun 2017, 11:43#9
 Hahahahahhahaha very funny Cloudy. But please note your informed opinion post the match doesn' t count!
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
13 Jun 2017, 14:49
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13 Jun 2017, 14:49#10
 Hey Cloudy... Fancy meeting you here. Your opinion is far more valuable than any of these wombles. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jun 2017, 19:19
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13 Jun 2017, 19:19#11
 Ha ha Cloudy, yes our good fiend (notice the "r" is not included in this word) is usually a handful
Highlanders showed their character again in this game and this with a stand in coach (Tony Brown was overseas). They know how to keep their nerve in a close game and that was the difference in the end. The Lions committed mistakes and they blew their chance of winning the game.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Jun 2017, 21:07
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13 Jun 2017, 21:07#12
 Feed him! Feed him! Feed him!
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WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Jun 2017, 23:42
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13 Jun 2017, 23:42#13
 Hey Papamoa good to see ya brother !Cloudy they actually found a woman recently who tested as 100% genetically Maori ,I thought that impossible but the science says otherwise .Sad to be Beandip what with his adopted team just making for more sad endings for him .I thought Fecks didnt do too bad and might have advanced his cause ,good to know hes available and paying well though .I may wobble after a drink or two but Im sure i'm not from Wimbledon Common Pap!Although Cloudys impartial judgement carries more weight than my partisan view eh ?
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PapamoaClub Pro683 posts
14 Jun 2017, 11:34
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14 Jun 2017, 11:34#14
 Hi Cloudy,Wardad, I passed out before the under 20s damn it all!! But looked like a wicked game. The finals on Sun or Mon morn I think??? But always keen for a late one, I cant go to sleep either some nights. Wardad I heard about that Maori chick, crazy ha.. If theirs one their must be more bro. 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Jun 2017, 00:05
#15
15 Jun 2017, 00:05#15
 Cloudy its native affairs newsreader Orina Kaipara .Weird thing is Papamoa that no one else in her family is ,just the way everything clicks I guess .Or maybe its like that old song about shame and scandal in the family where her Daddy aint her Daddy but her Daddy dont know !
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Jun 2017, 12:16
#16
15 Jun 2017, 12:16#16
 I see we have a gathering of the wombies!  Somebody loves them!Fancy ou papa moaner turning up I would have thought he would have been incarcerated for life by now!
Anyhow the more kbbs here the merrier! I don' t like having a small class!
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