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Crash ball Taute to offset loss of Habana, say Stormers

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
12 Mar 2013, 01:26
#1
12 Mar 2013, 01:26#1

Taute return off-sets loss of Habana by Gavin Rich 11 March 2013, 14:20
 

DHL Stormers coach Allister Coetzee has had it confirmed that the initial prognosis he was given after the win over the Chiefs was the correct one – Springbok wing Byran Habana will be out of rugby for 10 weeks after suffering a partial tear on the Medial Collateral Ligament on his left knee.

Coetzee had hoped that Habana might be able to return before that, however further scans have confirmed the worse news for Habana, who is in his final year of Vodacom Super Rugby before he leaves to start a new career at French club Toulon at the end of the season.

But the news on the injury front is not all bad for Coetzee and the Stormers. The team enjoys a bye this week, but in that time the injured trio of Springbok centre Juan de Jongh, former Lions lock cum flank Michael Rhodes and Bok Jaco Crash Ball Taute, who is on loan to the Stormers from the Lions, will continue with their one-on-one rehabilitation programmes.

All three will be ready to resume full training with the squad next week at the start of the build-up to the Newlands match against the high-flying Brumbies, who are coached by Coetzee’s former partner at the Springboks, Jake White.

“When you lose a Springbok and a quality player like Bryan it’s never an ideal situation, but we’re getting Jaco CrashballTaute back,” said Coetzee.

“Gerhard van den Heever played very, very well when he came on against the Chiefs and Gio Aplon played just as well, so we have enough replacements at wing. We wish Bryan well and a speedy recovery. When he returns he will be in the mix, but our focus is fully on the replacements now.”

Jaco Crash Ball Taute © Gallo Images Photo Galleries

Fat Dave, now suddenly you are quoting stats. 

However you reject the same stats when they do not support one of your young favourite players. 

Also your stats are wrong, their is no way that Taute was making the most breaks in the SuperXV. 

Jaco Taute was the worst performing back for the Boks in 2012. This was on both defence and attack and offerered little more than a crash ball. 

You think that Habana and Jean are past it players, but their stats were much better than Taute. Metres run, clean breaks etc. Habana is a springbok great and you are just too stupid to understand that even when he was awared SA player of the year award in 2012, and top international try of the year. What has Taute won? An now Habana is past it again according to you.

The Australian test, Jaco Taute was way out of his depth. Then came the AllBlack test and Taute was the weak link in the defence

It is the same predictable stuff from you, backing a young player who meets your weight requirements to gain an extra milimetre when doing crash ball.

Each year you produce a list of new young players and back them as the ones to watch. This is just an inventory list of all the new players from junior level. 

What happened to Sithole who you thought should represent the boks instead of Habana

 

Twatbok, I am not one for stats but can assure you Taute was way up the table with all the stats and thats why they stuck with me as it was so impressive given the side he was playing for. I never raised those stats in the first place and the debate at the time was in reference to another player, but what stuck was Taute's impressive showings.

 

But only and ignorant twat like you would conclude that Taute was a crashballer, if he was, why would Meyer have selected him the minute he returned from injury huh?

 

As for your take on Taute against Oz, that is just a complete lie. Taute had a great debut and was by far our best 13 in 2012 given how crap Jean and de Jongh were. He was no better or worse than the likes of Habana and Jean against the AB's and according to Meyer had his best test against Ireland.

 

Your take is complete hogwash, much like any of your takes on rugby - your rugby contributions are weak and lack substance. 

 

Bongani has you figured you waste of space

 Fat Dave, now you are supporting Hieneken Meyer- is he not one of the people you claim to be idiots, along with the current Bulls coach, the Stormers coach- oh wait anyone he does not agree with your simple minded decisions.

You must have really rated Roedolf Straulie as a coach as he changed his team each week the latest young player.

When Frans Steyn is 27, even if he is playing his best rugby you will claim he is past it. 

Jaco Taute is a deccent player, but he will never be a Springbok great.

He will get some games but he is just filling a spot in the team until a newer Springbok great enters the scene that can have achievements like Habana or Jean Devilliers.

Even though Jean and Habana are no longer playing to their best ability, they are still much better than the likes of Taute, Sihole and any of the new players you have on your list of the top200 young players in South Africa. Do you contact the unions for this information. Most of player you mention you have probably never seen them play. 

Bongani, I am pretty sure the SArugby website would have some sort of clause or disclaimer when it comes to what bloggers post. Much like a work email has a disclaimer that the content of the email from the author are not necessarily the views of the company!

 

I reckon if SA rugby could get "deep in the brown stuff" over what bloggers post, all our posts would be thoroughly screened before released for public viewing. As long as its under Sharkboks name, he can say what he wants and the site will not be penalised for it as it is his views, not theirs. They may choose to remove it but they are hardly going to be dragged through court procedings due to it!

 

Bongani, here's a thought bro and I dont mean this in an insulting way but how about focussing less on individuals and trying to make them out to be fools and add a bit more in the rugby sense. None of your posts are in the name of rugby..Its all about showing people up for you!

snapster you old hatter Habana would still make a world 15 on the wing so please try and put aside your prejudicies!

Joe pathetic at 15 - what a laugh - he drops one ball and is pathetic. Bwahahahhahahaha what a comedy!

Mike I think you have close to our best backline. Another possiblility would be to put Allende on the wing for Aplon and bring in Du Plessis. Aplon is an ideal impact player. Having a very big and fast back three as well a two biggish centers is great. Howard could also be called up (with your back three and ceters all around the 100 kg mark you can take offensive tacklin to a new level Nieaber). These guys have the necessary clout together with the Beeno power pack of 940 kgs I have mentioned.  Dominate all collisions and move forward all the time. Scare the living daylights out of the kiwi show ponies. Hahahhahaha

Lets flatten the wee oaks from down under I say.     

Lets put  an even more devastating meaing to the name  MIGHTY STORMERS.

Bologic I think ou Bongi of course ceradyne - alias vlagman off ss board infamy. He consider himself a major stirrer although you would probably not have noticed.

He is also very wise in his own eyes and also long winded and pompous - hence my very apt nickname of windpomp!. Other than that he is an excellent poster.

However the big issue is why does he disguise himself. He normally posts as vlagman. Then  it was ceradyne and now its bongi. I am genuinely puzzled about these ss moles. What are they so afraid of? Of course ou bongi will bleat on about how he can post under whatever name he chooses. Quite so but why does he and the other ss moles choose to not use their normal nicks like Saffex, Bobbok, Draad, Stu, etc do? What scares them so?

TwatBok's initial post is a blatant copy and paste from here and then he's gone and inserted the name "Crashball" into Taute's name as though it's a direct quote from Allister Coetzee . . . except Twatbok is so painfully stupid and illiterate he couldn't even do that basic job right and he ended up with CrashballTaute (sic). Wehe, what a moron!

 

 

It's bad enough that some of the losers around here pretend to have some knowledge of the game by copying and pasting articles that are available on the internet for anyone to read if they are so inclined, but even a half-wit like Baboon-ou knows better than to modify the original article the way TwatBok did.

BO
BonganiPClub Pro229 posts
12 Mar 2013, 14:47
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12 Mar 2013, 14:47#20

@Sharkbok and @Boklogic. Beneath all the banter and bullshit, there is a warning in this, and a serious one at that as well. If you do not at least give acknowledgement to the source of something that you copy, then your indeed venturing into copyright infringements. Although it is clear that the article was written by Gavin Rich, it is owned by Supersport, who has paid for it and who I am sure could cause major crap, if the do find out about it.

 

Have a look at what is written right at the very bottom of this page:

All content provided by sarugby.com Subscriber articles and galleries provided by SARugby subscribers. All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective owner.

 

That would mean that the site is actually laying claim to everything that is written on here, including this particular article. Supersport would not have a leg to stand on, if the article was quoted and that they were accredited as the owners of it.

 

As far as the changes are concerned, it could be seen as fraud because right at the top, it is mentioned that Gavin Rich was the writer, but the contents is not what he has written. It is someone else's spin on it.

 

Now I don't give a flying fuck whether you read this post or not, and the same goes for whether you take it seriously or not, but if I was the owners of this site, I would be seriously concerned if this keeps on happening.

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Mar 2013, 14:55
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12 Mar 2013, 14:55#21

Listen ou Beenbal. I haven't posted here for a long time now because I couldn't be bothered to be dragged into all kinds of childish you are this, you are that arguments. I come here to read one, maybe to poster's posts and that's it.

 

Now piss off and talk BS to someone else.

 

As far as Bongani's issue with the article is concerned, I think there is something to made of it and should be taken seriously. But then again, if you guys are prepared to jeopardise the future of the site, then so be it.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:06
#22
12 Mar 2013, 15:06#22

 Ceradyne- You say you have not posted on this site in a long time. 

Then less than 10 minutes after your Bogani makes a post, you make a post. 

What are the chances of that?And you also just happen to agree?

Puleeze!. 

"Just to let you know in the internet world, that linking to the original source website is not plagarism. The link is a referral to the original source of the content whih gives credit to the author ". 

http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Is-Posting-Other-Peoples-Content-3341869.S.90811638

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:26
#23
12 Mar 2013, 15:26#23

I have not said that I have not been reading the forum at all. I just have not posted for a long time. I just happened to pick up on the entire argument. I saw Bangani's post yesterday and was curious to see what has come of it. I would not even have responded, had Beeno not decided to launch a stupid attack again.

Yo0u are correct that linking to the source is not plagiarism, but that is not what Bongani has said, is it? In fact, you have just more or less confirm what he has said. Had you linked your post to the source, there would not have been a problem. That is aside from the changes that you have made of course.

 

Bongani has said this:

Blatantly copying and pasting an article from another website without any recognition or reference to the source could land this site deep in the brown stuff.

Now you come along and say: "Just to let you know in the internet world, that linking to the original source website is not plagarism. The link is a referral to the original source of the content".  You are 100% correct, but you have not linked the flippin article, you blatantly copied and posted it, with no link to the original.

 

But then again, if you do not agree and you think that everything was hunky dorey, then so be it, as I have said. See if I care.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:36
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12 Mar 2013, 15:36#24

 At the bottom of the article is a logo called Photo Galleries. This links to the SuperSport website.

I just copied and pasted and made a few edits because I know that Saffex hates Taute being called Crashball after the 2012 performances at center. 

Website owners often imbed links throughout the article so faciitate the linking process. In this case SuperSport have not created that many links in the content, but one does exist.

Also, at the top of the article is Facebook and Twitter social media sharing.

SuperSport are encouraging the sharing of the content. As I have said there is a link at the bottom of the page to SuperSport.

The link is also how a search engine is aware where the original source of the content is, and therefore how to index and rank the original content ahead of the distributed version of the content on other social platforms like blogs.

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:47
#25
12 Mar 2013, 15:47#25

@Sharkbok. Whatever mate. If you think you are in the clear, then so be it. I just know what I would have done to be safe if I was the owner of the site.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:48
#26
12 Mar 2013, 15:48#26

Hi Draad as you say there are similarities and that is my best guess. What intrigues me is why they come here as moles. My own suspicion is that they are scared of hawker and the banning button. Maybe they wil ltake flak from some for posting here?

I did indicate they are of course free to register here as they please but why as moles i smy question?  You didnt. Bobbok didnt, Saffex didnt, stu didnt etc etc.

Of coursde I miss dear ou windpomp, some times i am an insomniac and nothing like ou windpomp going on and on and around in cirlces to solve the problem    

However I do think we should always acknowledge our sources - its just the right thing to do. So thanks to vlagman/ceradyne /bongi for trying to help us. Nice to have both parts (Ceradyne ann Bongi)  of you here of course vlagman and youtwo (but one) agreeing with one another.

But see how much simpler it would be if you just register as vlagman!

St Beeno bringing peace, truth and light.

Hahahhahahahaha

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:50
#27
12 Mar 2013, 15:50#27

Hey rooitwit are the comments I insert alterations to the article?

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:53
#28
12 Mar 2013, 15:53#28

Quite so Sharkbok. Ou vlagman/ceradyne/ bongi /x doesnt miss a post!

But we are a free baord so all are welcome. Aaaaah I do enjoy the fresh breezes tha tblow through here!

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Mar 2013, 15:54
#29
12 Mar 2013, 15:54#29

 Sharkbok, just edit the thing and put in "ex Supersport" in the beginning. No one will ever complain about your little edit to the article and it was quite clear that you did not intend to pass the piece off as your own.


As for Bongi/Ceradyne/Vlagman, I agree to the similarities but it be really out of character for Vlagman/Ceradyne to pose as someone else. I am sure that Bongi will reveal himself as soon as he see's fit. Ek wag in spanning.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Mar 2013, 16:03
#30
12 Mar 2013, 16:03#30

 Beeno, there is absolutely no pressure from either Barlee or Hawk for SS posters not to post here. I can't speak for them, but I think that they would just not like it if some of the guys from over there causes trouble over here. The reason why they post under different nicks over here is all their own, but I suspect that they're just having a bit of fun. Please also note that it is most likely only one or two posters with a host of different nicks on this side, similar to your cameo as StormingEd.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Mar 2013, 16:07
#31
12 Mar 2013, 16:07#31

Draad no great problem. Its just the why that intrigues me. It becomes more of an issue when there are vicious attacks. Bongi however has been failry reasonable. Who knows for sure perhaps bongi is saffexe's little echo. Hahahahahahaha

Trust you enjoyed the great Stormers win Draad and the super weekend for SA sides . Wait till Aliistair gets the selections right and injured players return.

I am off now. Later this evening I am going to hear Prof John Lennox at a packed Baxter theatre.

KA
KalaedFreddieClub Pro495 posts
13 Mar 2013, 16:08
#32
13 Mar 2013, 16:08#32

 Beeno1 that be an interesting professor - you may watch him here on youtube.

 

The debate you people are having is meaningless - anything on the Internet is public domain or so my boss explain it to me.  So if you type stuff on the internet it is cool fot other people to use your stuff.  The first post is naughty because it is altered but the authors name is there for all to see so it is cool I even asked my boss to come have a look and he said it is ok and I will always believe my boss.

 

For Beeno1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cs_aLxKf2Q

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