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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
27 Apr 2019, 21:32
#1
27 Apr 2019, 21:32#1

Needless to say, he demonstrated he is a much better rugby player than Robert Dupreez.


Dick Muir left the Sharks because of Senior Robert Dupreez selecting Junior ahead of Bosch. Tony Watson recently said that it is ridiculous that junior was selected ahead of Bosch.


Bosch may even be leaving to the Stormers because of lack of game time. 

Pollard is by far the best flyhalf, followed by Jantjies and Bosch. The rest are weak.

If Robert Dupreez Junior is selected ahead of him again this season - it is time to fire Senior Robert Dupreez.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Apr 2019, 21:37
#2
27 Apr 2019, 21:37#2
I much prefer Curwin at fullback.
I can understand the Sharks picking him there because Robert Jr is a bit sterile and they don't have a lot of other options but the Boks have Pollard and Willemse as flyhalf options so Curwin would be better off sticking to fullback where his huge boot and dangerous running from broken play are better utilised.
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
27 Apr 2019, 22:06
#3
27 Apr 2019, 22:06#3

I thought he was okay at flyhalf, can't say I got excited about his performance. Better than anything Robert's produced this season though.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
27 Apr 2019, 22:12
#4
27 Apr 2019, 22:12#4
Agreed but still not as incisive as his recent performances at fullback.
We have two talented players who seem to be stuck between flyhalf and fullback and we're currently playing themn both in the wrong jersey.
Damian Willemse's best performances have been in the #10 jersey while Curwin Bosch's best performances have been in the #15 jersey.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
27 Apr 2019, 22:59
#5
27 Apr 2019, 22:59#5
He probably is more effective at fullback at this stage, but SA probably has more depth at fullback/wing than at flyhalf. 
I would rate him as the third best flyhalf in SA at the moment, so perhaps he could continue to improve.  I certainly think he has a more allround game at 10 than say Damien Willemse.
His kicking game is good. Pole kicking, and territory touch finders, grubbers etc.His passing and playmaking game is good. 


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Apr 2019, 02:25
#6
28 Apr 2019, 02:25#6

Sure playing in SA.   I would rate both Van der Walt (Edinburgh) and Goosen (Mntpellier) better flyhalfs than Jantjies.  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Apr 2019, 02:36
#7
28 Apr 2019, 02:36#7

I'm more inclined to wait and see how Bosch progresses in his new role, judging his performance on last night's game is premature, sure he had a good game but I can tell you that it was an ordinary game by two ordinary teams. Pedestrian as a matter of fact. At no stage was Bosch put under any pressure by a toothless 'Tah defence.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
28 Apr 2019, 09:28
#8
28 Apr 2019, 09:28#8

Reasonable comments from you guys but my gut feelings is that Curwin is a rugby star in the making...his talents are exceptionable and we must be wise how we utilise him...yes I think keep him at 10 for the next couple of games and see how that developes. We must give him more time, space and freedom to develope his own style and initiative...he is a player that cannot be cloned and steriotyped into a role. We've done that too often with young utility players in the past and forced these type of creative players to play conventional "Morne Steyn" style of play.

Horses for courses.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
28 Apr 2019, 10:17
#9
28 Apr 2019, 10:17#9
Forget Goosen Mike, he doesn't have the heart for international rugby and doesn't have the body either.  I was one of the biggest Goosen punters too, it hasn't worked out for him sadly. Van der Walt is a good option though, hope he doesn't want to qualify for Scotland instead of SA. 
There is a threat of Bosch becoming another jack of all trades, master of none. He has a massive boot though. 
Willemse is an enigma, there are valid arguments for him at FH, center and FB. I have no clue, he has pros and cons for every position. One thing is for certain, he just needs to play and learn at this point in time. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Apr 2019, 13:48
#10
28 Apr 2019, 13:48#10

Chezza

I think people often misread situations when it comes top players.   The players often are -

*   injury prone and not reliable  for selection;

*   maligned based on personal prejudice; and

*   ignored because of the nasty quota system.

I try and follow NH rugby and has seen for years how players progress,   Although Van der Walt was a good flyhalf - he was ignored  by the Lions so he rarely played on Super Rugby level.    He went to Edinburgh and really showed his promise as a player.   He was part of the SA players that took Edinburgh to the European Champions Cup.   I saw some of their matches in both that competition and he showed more in one match than Jantjies did for a year.

Goosen is not acceptable by many members on site,  but  -

*    in 2016   he was the Player of the Year in Top 14 rugby in France; and

*    after he breached contract with Racing Metro his contract was bought out by  Montpellier and he became their first choice flyhalf ahead of  Aaron Cruden and Francois Steyn.

If he was so bad why did Montpellier pay Racing Euro 1,5 million to take over his contract?  Why is he one of the highest paid SA players in France?  I do not think the club owners and coaches in France  are utter fools to buy out his cointract and pay him extremely well for his services,

I think that Goosen at his worst is still better than Jantjies at his best.   Can you believe it?   Jantjies made 7 tackles yesterday and missed 6 -  almost on par with Morne making 8 tackles and missing 7 in the Perth test in 2014.   One has every right to  call Jantjies a defensive sieve.   

      

 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,251 posts
28 Apr 2019, 14:21
#11
28 Apr 2019, 14:21#11
I have not seen Goosen play for ages, I think it was at fullback for the Boks a few years ago. Not sure why Rassie has not tried him, but he might have been injured last season. 
At one stage Goosen was the most injury prone player in world rugby. He got injured stepping off the bus before a match. He needed to be wrapped in cotton wool when being transported to the match.



He was like Calamity James, even shooting his friend on a hunting trip. 


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Apr 2019, 16:15
#12
28 Apr 2019, 16:15#12

I have seen the tests in 2017 when he was one of the few players who scored tries for the Springboks and he was rather injury free since 2016 - other than one recently.   He is a far better player than the Morne- supporting Sheisters on site give him credit for. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Apr 2019, 16:36
#13
28 Apr 2019, 16:36#13
"sheisters" ......warning Tokkie, you are back to your old habits again.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Apr 2019, 18:25
#14
28 Apr 2019, 18:25#14

Mozart 

Sorry about that - I apologize.   Please change the word to experts.    

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Apr 2019, 22:59
#15
28 Apr 2019, 22:59#15
Dr Expert.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Apr 2019, 07:53
#16
29 Apr 2019, 07:53#16

LMAO

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