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Damian Willemse is back playing at flyhalf.

Started by clevermike22 REPLIES645 VIEWS· 21 Aug 2019, 13:43
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 13:43
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21 Aug 2019, 13:43#1

After returning to play for the WP last week as bench flyhalf for the game last Saturday - in which Willemse played a critical role in the last try of the WP - Willemse is back starting at flyhalf for WP in the game against the Cheetahs this week,

We will have another chance to see what this vey good youngster can produce.

I will much rather see Willemse in the WC squad playing for the Springboks than either Jantjies and especially not Francois Steyn.  Jantjies is at vest iffy and Steyn was used from the bench in the three tests played and was horribly poor ion three of the matches and poor in the fourth,   He is at best a potential cover for fulkl back - but is too poaced=efficient for that position.   A flyhalf or center cover he is definitely not.

One can only hope that Erasmus calls up of Willemse next week to the Springbok squad and choose him for the squad.  We do not need a flop like Fransie Steyn un the Springbok squad.  He is a better player than Jantjies too.

As to Fransie - his real ratings in the four tests he played in was -

              2, 3, 5 and 2 in the 4 games        


      

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Aug 2019, 14:01
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21 Aug 2019, 14:01#2

Willemse is not a better 10 than Jantjies. It's not even remotely close. He is nowhere near ready for test rugby. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 14:13
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21 Aug 2019, 14:13#3

Jantjies never had a reasonably good test at flyhalf for the Springboks and Steyn is a dud  beyond description.   Jantjies regularly  caves in under pressure and os defense is a joke in bad taste,

You saying the above makes me 100% more certain I am correct.     

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Aug 2019, 14:22
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21 Aug 2019, 14:22#4

Jantjies was outstanding in Wellington last year. He has had good games, but can also have howlers. A more erratic Pretorius. Willemse retains the erraticism, but without any of the production. He has been a headless chicken at test level. I doubt Rassie is this foolish, or reckless.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 14:38
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21 Aug 2019, 14:38#5

He was on the bench dofdoos and came onto the field at minute 47.   What he did was nothing of substance other than making a number of good tackles - not routine in his case,    So how outstanding was he?   Absolute rubbish from the Idiot Speaker.   

Incidentally Idiot - the function of the flyhalf is not only to kick balls and make tackles - it is much wider than that.    Jantjies did squat in the test other than for the tackles he made.   Willemse4 is a much better defender than Jantjies and a much better player in all other saspets of the game as well.

You saying the above makes me 100% more certain I am correct.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Aug 2019, 14:41
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21 Aug 2019, 14:41#6

He played his part in a breakout try. There was also that. 

"You saying the above makes me 100% more certain I am correct."

Here, have a tissue, wipe that egg off your face. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2019, 15:51
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21 Aug 2019, 15:51#7
Just another excuse to attack Frans........boring.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 16:33
#8
21 Aug 2019, 16:33#8

No Mozart

Not an attack on your precious Fransie - only a suggestion for an improvement to the squad.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 16:33
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21 Aug 2019, 16:33#9

No Mozart

Not an attack on your precious Fransie - only a suggestion for an improvement to the squad.  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Aug 2019, 19:02
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21 Aug 2019, 19:02#10

As to Fransie - his real ratings in the four tests he played in was

I take it "real ratings" is another term for "Mike's opinion".

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 19:12
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21 Aug 2019, 19:12#11

Not my opinion - real evaluation based on actual performance and ample deficiencies .     

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Aug 2019, 20:55
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21 Aug 2019, 20:55#12

So that was a 2 against Australia, right? Here is his game against Aus:

52:22 Tackle assist HP
55:11 draws two defenders and offloads in leadup to Nkosi try
60:37 tackle assist
60:49 defensive pressure along with Steph initiates intercept for Kriel
61:32 carry, tackled, Jantjies scores from ruck
64:43 defensive pressure Toomua, forces grubber into touch
66:42 12m carry running over Foley
67:09 ruck clean allowing ball to be presented
67:36 carry over advantage line, clean ball
68:03 carry into traffic, clean ball
77:33 carry into traffic, clean ball

Giving a player a 2 means he was an absolute disaster, did almost nothing right and cost his team points. Steyn did none of that. Apart from one missed tackle that ESPN logs, he made no other errors, conceded no turnover ball and conceded no penalties.

He drew in two defenders before offloading in the final passing sequence leading up to Nkosi's try, and Jantjies scored his try from a ruck set up by a Steyn carry. 

When Australia breaks away down the touchline, Steyn is there in cover at 74:26 to force Beale to pass to Hooper, who is shepherded into touch by Gelant.

That was a rock solid outing by Steyn. If I indulged in these ratings I'd give that a 6 or a 7. Your "real evaluation" is about as real as the tooth fairy.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Aug 2019, 22:34
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21 Aug 2019, 22:34#13
I’d have Willemse in my WC squad as a utility player over old man Frans anyday Not even close
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Aug 2019, 22:58
#14
21 Aug 2019, 22:58#14

Saffy's dream come true: Prince Harry visiting his Boks for the 2023 World Cup as they train for the final. Look at these youthful class acts in action! 




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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Aug 2019, 22:58
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21 Aug 2019, 22:58#15

"Not my opinion - real evaluation based on actual performance and ample deficiencies."

Until you provide some information, it's all opinion, nothing more.  I think you've just been routed, nyet, sacked by Pakie. Again. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 23:27
#16
21 Aug 2019, 23:27#16

Ouch - I have been bitten by a butterfly/   LMAO

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 23:27
#17
21 Aug 2019, 23:27#17

Ouch - I have been bitten by a butterfly/   LMAO

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 23:27
#18
21 Aug 2019, 23:27#18

Ouch - I have been bitten by a butterfly/   LMAO

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Aug 2019, 23:33
#19
21 Aug 2019, 23:33#19
'Butterflies don't bite because they can't. Caterpillars munch on leaves and eat voraciously with their chewing mouthparts, and some of them do bite if they feel threatened. But once they become butterflies, they only have a long, curled proboscis, which is like a soft drinking straw—their jaws are gone.' Your education continues Muck.....sadly with no signs of results.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Aug 2019, 23:48
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21 Aug 2019, 23:48#20

LMAO He just does not get it - does he?  LMAO

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sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
22 Aug 2019, 00:25
#21
22 Aug 2019, 00:25#21
Do you still have an arse? It seems you laughed it off beyond recovery. ArselessMike.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
22 Aug 2019, 00:34
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22 Aug 2019, 00:34#22



Note the double LMAO, an Afrikaans variant. Two times de-arsched.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Aug 2019, 09:32
#23
22 Aug 2019, 09:32#23

Yes I have - but it serves to describe the ridiculous distortions on site - it is so funny it is unbelievable.  I used mine to sh!t - I think the Idiot Speakers do not need to - they use BS writing so voila - they can do without one. 

I think they are as described by Mrs Swart in a Magistrates Court in Swellendam in the 19th century - when she supported her maid in a paternity case.   The Magistrates those days normally took the side of the man and he asked Mrs  Swart if she believes anything she has not seen,  Her answer was to the point:-

"Yes, your Honour I do.   I believe you have an arsehole though I have never seen it:.

So I believe all three of you have arseholes - but not necessary for normal purposes

Incidentally that charade of Pakie is as bad as the three of them normally are.  Take for instance the following:-

*   52:22  -  Tackle assist???????

*   55:11  -   Steyn rana bout a meter and passed the ball to Du Toit  - who drew in the two defenders before passing the ball to Nkosi.  Steyn drawing in the defenders - bl;aas my siel.

*  60:33  -   Tackle assist???????

I can carry on with every one of the statements - but it I no use,   Steyn did not make a single tackle in that game and missed 1.   Not a word about his foul up involving  the Foley try obviously.   Clean - very slow balls coming out.   Have fun believing total distortion  

Steyn made on reasonable carry - made no tackles at all - but missed one and it is just empty make-believe for the rest.    

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