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Damn, bad news about Dyantyi

Started by DbDraad32 REPLIES1,702 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2019, 17:14
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 17:18
#2
24 Aug 2019, 17:18#2

Probably trying to recover in time for the World Cup. Hi s injury was very ill-timed. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2019, 17:57
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24 Aug 2019, 17:57#3
Disappointing.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Aug 2019, 18:05
#4
24 Aug 2019, 18:05#4

Where is the self righteous indignation of that  fiend of mine Beeno?

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:05
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24 Aug 2019, 19:05#5

It sounds like he is innocent. 

He may have recovered from injury, and Rassie was aware of this situation, hence why he is not in the squad. Hopefully the second test can happen quickly 

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SebPro2,680 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:36
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24 Aug 2019, 19:36#6

Yes I agree...certainly sounds very innocent to me...don't know how accurate these tests are and if they are foolproof. Do you think maybe some one who had ill intent laced a beverage to frame him.

It sounds awful but yes there are such sick people driven by jealousy or other ugly reasons and motives. Could be racial hatred...it does exist in the worst forms.

I think he's innocent...medical tests can be wrong.

A friend of mine who does marathons and ocean kayaking applied for a large life insurance policy a couple of months ago and had the pathologist take blood tests...Apparently the insurance company came back declining him for high blood pressure. It was ridiculous...an extremely fit man. He knew something had gone awry and insisted that he be tested again by his own pathologist on the instruction from his GP.  It was found totally wrong.

The original path lab denied this so he had another test done by the same and indeed his results were very good. I don't know how it's possible but in this country anything can happen. It's scary.

I know this is different but we don't always have foolproof systems we can trust.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 20:33
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24 Aug 2019, 20:33#7

Probably was something that the doctors gave him when he was injured - but he was tested two weeks ago and then retested two weeks later and found he had a banned substance in his urine.  There is no news as to what exactly the substance was, 

We will soon see what really is the case.  In the meantime I am sorry about it and hope the next test clears the guy.     .   

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
25 Aug 2019, 03:55
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25 Aug 2019, 03:55#8
Either that or he’s just a cheat. That option doesn’t seem to have occurred to the people who have made the above comments.....
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Aug 2019, 08:30
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25 Aug 2019, 08:30#9

Moo, we would like to think that he is not a cheat, but ATM the evidence suggests that he is. I very much doubt that the second sample will test any different ...his best hope is probably that a doctor slipped up with medication, but that's also slim.

Pity, as he is my preferred left wing starter for the boks.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Aug 2019, 08:37
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25 Aug 2019, 08:37#10
Moolaa is right. Just imagine if the boot was on the other foot . . . if it was an All Black who tested positive? We wouldn't be reading things on this site like "oh I'm sure he's innocent" or "it was just something the doctor gave him by mistake" . . . no, we'd have Kiwi-bashers like Baboon-ou getting themselves worked up into a complete state about the Kiwis cheating and how they've cheated throughout history . . . that's what we'd be reading.
In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I will assume that Aphiwe Dyantyi is a drug cheat, just like Chilliboy Ralepelle, Johan Ackermann and several others. 
It's a bit puzzling why Dyantyi is getting a free pass here from so many posters when Chilliboy made the same excuses and was vilified by the same posters on here.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Aug 2019, 09:11
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25 Aug 2019, 09:11#11

Rooi, I actually agree with you on this...and as for your question about the different treatment that Chilliboy got? I think he was disliked because he was seen as a quota pick(although I think at some stage he showed enough potential) whereas Dyantyi is seen as a totally merited selection. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
25 Aug 2019, 12:58
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25 Aug 2019, 12:58#12
I think he is innocent from his statement. It does not sound like a guilty person. If he is guilty, then he is an exceptional liar. However, I think he is innocent. He sounds sincere. 
Steroid Boy Rappelle is another story. I think he was aware that he took Steroids. Johan Ackerman was also a proven cheat. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Aug 2019, 14:04
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25 Aug 2019, 14:04#13

Oh come on oaks the kiwis got their stooge rooibozo to slp poor Dyanti some illegal drug. Plai n as daylight!

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Aug 2019, 14:08
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25 Aug 2019, 14:08#14
They all sound innocent, Sharkbok. Ben Johnson, Lance Armstrong, Roy Jones Jr, Maria Sharapova, Justin Gatlin, Floyd Landis . . . they all protested their innocence and sounded "sincere".
Don't know why Aphiwe Dyantyi is getting a free pass and pats on the back for this . . . he's a drug cheat and he should serve a ban like all the other drug cheats.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2019, 16:21
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25 Aug 2019, 16:21#15
Tend to agree with Peeper and Moolaa, but I haven't really studied the results of these second sample challenges. What percentage are reversed, does anybody know?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Aug 2019, 17:13
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25 Aug 2019, 17:13#16

The reason why a second test is taken is to eliminate any doubt about the presence of drugs in the  system of players,   Any decision that action is taken against a player will only e after the second test is done.  That is why I think we should wait and see -

*   what substance was found in his system - there was nothing about that made public yet;

*   is the second test confirming the first test findings.

He may ben a drug cheat, but somehow I think there may be some doubt.  Why was he tested two weeks before the test and cleared - only to be tested two weeks later and hen found to have a forbidden substance present in him?              

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Aug 2019, 17:57
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25 Aug 2019, 17:57#17

Sharapova in NOT  drug cheat. She had been taking the substance she was banned for over a period of several years. 

Suddenly, they banned the substance and her team never realized it. She was tested a few weeks after the substance was banned. She never denied she had been using the substance etc. 

It was a harsh sentence which fortunate was reduced later. 

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moolaaPro2,380 posts
25 Aug 2019, 21:53
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25 Aug 2019, 21:53#18
Sharapova was still a drug cheat Hasbeeno! Surely you didn’t fall for the old “Gee, we never realised that substance was now banned!” trick! Talk about gullible.....
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Rugby LindaClub Pro114 posts
26 Aug 2019, 00:31
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26 Aug 2019, 00:31#19

Oh come on oaks the kiwis got their stooge rooibozo to slp poor Dyanti some illegal drug. Plain as daylight!

NO THEY LEAVE THAT TO SOUTH AFRICANS.TO DO BECAUSE THAT IS THE LEVEL THAT SOUTH AFRICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND OPERATE AT.

DON'T JUDGE OR BLAME NEW ZEALANDERS AT THE LEVEL THAT YOU OPERATE AT.


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Aug 2019, 09:57
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26 Aug 2019, 09:57#20

trans linda you have no right to talk about drugs give your hormone therapy etc.

No, if one considers the incidence of drug cheating over the years nz come tops. Sean Fitzpatrick once said South Africa competitive advantage was their big athletic MEN. So we dont need drugs for our forwards at least no like the pap wee nz forwards! Hahahahahahahahaha

moo moo please oak,the ban had hardly been put on the drug and Sharapova was caught. She had been using it for years then out of the blue it was banned. So it was very obviously just a simple mistake.

Moo moo all this is just an attempt to take people's attention away from the serial drug cheats in nz rugby. The glee in condemning Dyanti before the final results and evidence is out proves my point.

Beeno holding the dirty kiwi feet (Wearing white gloves), very close to the fire!

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
28 Aug 2019, 05:41
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28 Aug 2019, 05:41#21
Yes, your world is collapsing Hasbeeno with all these latest scandals! Tsk, tsk........
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
28 Aug 2019, 06:00
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28 Aug 2019, 06:00#22
Hasbeeno, check out Wikipedia Category “Doping cases in rugby union”. On the front page there are 30 names of drug cases. If you hold the cursor over each name it shows where the player came from. I counted 18 of the 30 were either born in SA or played rugby there!!!! What was that about serial drug cheats in NZ?? Bwahahahaha! More egg than you can handle!!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Aug 2019, 06:13
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28 Aug 2019, 06:13#23
Just goes to show our testing is more honest.
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
28 Aug 2019, 07:15
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28 Aug 2019, 07:15#24
Nice try Moz......
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Aug 2019, 15:26
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28 Aug 2019, 15:26#25
Hahaha...best I could do!
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
29 Aug 2019, 01:02
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29 Aug 2019, 01:02#26
Does New Zealand do drug testing?  Ali Williams snorting antics are well documented, and this is a banned substance. 
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
29 Aug 2019, 10:03
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29 Aug 2019, 10:03#27
I heard Danie Craven was on meth at one stage Sharkbok......
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Aug 2019, 11:46
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30 Aug 2019, 11:46#28
And Dyantyi's B sample has also tested positive. Looks like a 4 year ban coming up.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Aug 2019, 12:12
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30 Aug 2019, 12:12#29

Yes - that is very likely in this case.  Idiot supreme.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
30 Aug 2019, 12:31
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30 Aug 2019, 12:31#30
It certainly looks certain Dyantyi is guilty. Reports are suggesting more than one performance-enhancing drug..... 
" The test confirmed the results of the A-sample of the presence of the banned substances: methandienone, methyltestosterone and LGD-4033 ."
Maybe he was trying to recover from an injury in time for the world cup, who knows.....
Sad. After last year, he was perhaps my favourite rugby player for the Boks. He was probably the difference between the win and loss vs the All Blacks in New Zealand last year....
He had a few rough edges to his game like under the highball, and positional play on defence- but with more time he would have gotten over these.... (without cheating)
He got the World Cup rugby breakthrough player of the year last season, so they will probably be more severe on him for making a mockery of the IRB..
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Aug 2019, 13:05
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30 Aug 2019, 13:05#31
Huge loss and what an idiot if he did know what he was doing, which I very much doubt
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2019, 13:36
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30 Aug 2019, 13:36#32

Yes. the kiwis don't test for drugs. they are also masters at masking! The whole wee ab squad should be tested and sent home! Thereafter the kiwis would be demanding a refund from their bribed refs. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHA

E xtend the drug tests to nz juniours as well please!

Still lots of speculating from some oaks.


MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
30 Aug 2019, 22:29
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30 Aug 2019, 22:29#33
Just keeps getting worse for you Hasbeeno. I think you will find that by using a bigger spade, the hole will get larger quicker........ Bwaha!
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